And so you start all over again. The way you guys hire and fire coaches is definitely affecting your organisation and performances. Now a new coach will have start from square one and reorganise the team.

Having said that, Vogts has been awful as manager of the Super Chickens. He's the first manager to play against 10 men with half hour to go and still played defensive football looking for penalties.

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