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Abike · #16 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 02:42 PM

Or when they are supposed to be a poor family in the village, and the girl has some nails as long as Sid's nose!

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Originally Posted by Wilhemina

I love this thread because is noting but the truth What about when sleeping the actresses have make up on and sometimes when they are playing a local village girl. Sometimes the make - up that use freak me out, sometimes both actors and actressess wear sunglasses at night especially Jim Ikye he is the one I always notice, wearing Sunglass at night.

Angela81 · #17 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hubscrown

Going over it in detail will be like giving a lecture. It is the responsibility of the Production designer to have the total visual and creativity of what the whole movie will look like. The post production perfect picture is in his head. He or she will have to work with location manager, costume designer, props, make-up artist, art director, visual effect, light director to make the production design works in unison for the Film Director to shoot. I don't want to go into the roles of specific positions one by one, but you can google it and post for whom maybe concern.

The topic is about dressing and what I'm saying is that before putting a camera forward to call "ACTION" The whole arrangement of what that scene you are shooting will look like, the emotions in that scene and what you want the scene to project to the viewers, will be determined by Production Designer. Through design alone, you can shoot a whole movie without dialogue, because the color, type of dressing, body language all creates a message to the viewer.

on the contrary, the only thing a production designer concerns himself with when it comes to wardrobe is colors. it is the responsibility of the costume designer and wardrobes supervisor to create the appropriate apparels. the director however has a final say on what the artiste is wearing.
i remember oceans eleven. in that scene where Julia roberts was coming down the stairs in a red suit. apparently, it had been a blue one, but the director had them change it to red. (watch the special features)

so it is the directors fault when the actor comes up looking crappy. it is his duty to call the costume people to order. now if you were talking about a period piece, then the production designer comes into play where costume is concerned at a full force. but movie like Iwo Jima, the costume designer needs to research and find out what kind of costume there was in the war and get it approved by the production designer and the director.

yes there times when a production designer will sketch characters, but that will be for a movie as stylized as 300. none of these is done without the consent of the director.
pretty much, the director cannot be excused from this matter at all!!!

Hubscrown · #18 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela81

on the contrary, the only thing a production designer concerns himself with when it comes to wardrobe is colors. it is the responsibility of the costume designer and wardrobes supervisor to create the appropriate apparels. the director however has a final say on what the artiste is wearing.
i remember oceans eleven. in that scene where Julia roberts was coming down the stairs in a red suit. apparently, it had been a blue one, but the director had them change it to red. (watch the special features)

so it is the directors fault when the actor comes up looking crappy. it is his duty to call the costume people to order. now if you were talking about a period piece, then the production designer comes into play where costume is concerned at a full force. but movie like Iwo Jima, the costume designer needs to research and find out what kind of costume there was in the war and get it approved by the production designer and the director.

yes there times when a production designer will sketch characters, but that will be for a movie as stylized as 300. none of these is done without the consent of the director.
pretty much, the director cannot be excused from this matter at all!!!

Are you just going by your logistics based on your experience with certain production you were involved in or you are a filmmaker?

What in the world is wardrobe supervisor?

The Director primary concern is camera angles, at what focus length should a shot be taking, what style or positioning of props and character will makes the shot appealing.. major for him is technicality and delivery of the acts on the set. Director may chose to concern himself with what they are wearing or not, he could care less. It depends on if he has the time to be correcting appearances.. If I'm directing a shot, I will be not be running after changes of appearances on the set as matter of fact unless I'm giving the power to question the appearance it is not my duty to ask anyone why they wearing what they wearing, I'm not the movie Producer.

Angela use google pls...

Flomari · #19 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 03:58 PM

This Is True,at Least Now They Stop The Flowers They Put In Their Hair,the Makeup The Earings God Please We Neen Your Help Hahaha

Angela81 · #20 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hubscrown

Are you just going by your logistics based on your experience with certain production you were involved in or you are a filmmaker?

What in the world is wardrobe supervisor?

The Director primary concern is camera angles, at what focus length should a shot be taking, what style or positioning of props and character will makes the shot appealing.. major for him is technicality and delivery of the acts on the set. Director may chose to concern himself with what they are wearing or not, he could care less. It depends on if he has the time to be correcting appearances.. If I'm directing a shot, I will be not be running after changes of appearances on the set as matter of fact unless I'm giving the power to question the appearance it is not my duty to ask anyone why they wearing what they wearing, I'm not the movie Producer.

Angela use google pls...

based on the bolded, I do not need to even continue this thread. focus length? if you are a filmmaker then from the back door? do you mean a focal length? its not a director business on focal length. it is the DOPs. I think you should either go to film school or use google. do you even get to count the number of times a producer is on set?

what are they doing there when a UPM is around? its only the really diligent producers who wake up at call times and go home at wrap times or even pay any attention to turnaround times. A producers job goes into limbo when she finds money, finds crew and all she then does is approve and supervise the CREW. not until the movie is ready does she come in again to decide what cut sells and what cut will not. that is why you have a directors cut and producers cut which is the one that usually gets sold or bought.

This your comment is the very issue we are having in our local industry. People who do not know who are in positions they should not be in. You don't know, yet you want to say things that are incorrect.

no basic film making education where each department knows what they are supposed to be doing and you see a production manager yelling at an actor. how then will a director have the common sense to tell an actor you are overdressed.

Hubscrown · #21 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela81

based on the bolded, I do not need to even continue this thread. focus length? if you are a filmmaker then from the back door? do you mean a focal length? its not a director business on focal length. it is the DOPs. I think you should either go to film school or use google. do you even get to count the number of times a producer is on set?

what are they doing there when a UPM is around? its only the really diligent producers who wake up at call times and go home at wrap times or even pay any attention to turnaround times. A producers job goes into limbo when she finds money, finds crew and all she then does is approve and supervise the CREW. not until the movie is ready does she come in again to decide what cut sells and what cut will not. that is why you have a directors cut and producers cut which is the one that usually gets sold or bought.

This your comment is the very issue we are having in our local industry. People who do not know who are in positions they should not be in. You don't know, yet you want to say things that are incorrect.

no basic film making education where each department knows what they are supposed to be doing and you see a production manager yelling at an actor. how then will a director have the common sense to tell an actor you are overdressed.

Hmm, ok.

TheForce · #22 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 05:39 PM

It is well.

I hope all these our knowlwdge in film making will bring Africa out in film making wilderness someday.

Once again, it is well.

Sifu · #23 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 05:43 PM

I am so glad someone put this up. I saw this movie recently( I never remember the names. Ini was in love with desmond elliot's father who duped him and he died so Ini's family were against the relationship). Anyway they had a company party. Seemed to me like a business party. Tonto looked nice and here comes Ini looking so razz I almost choked on the goat meat I was eating. It looks so classless and I so agree with this article on that. We only have a handful of ladies that know how to put the their outfits together to match a scene.

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Don't they hire people to help with the appropriate atires. Ini looks the same as church goer, streetwalker and housewife. I don't get it.

Wilhemina · #24 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Abike

Or when they are supposed to be a poor family in the village, and the girl has some nails as long as Sid's nose!

You are right sis sometimes that also freaks me out their nails are too long abeg oh again you expect a local village character to be simple no long nails no make up so it fits to the character of a local village girl

Wilhemina · #25 (**permalink**) 08-11-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifu

I am so glad someone put this up. I saw this movie recently( I never remember the names. Ini was in love with desmond elliot's father who duped him and he died so Ini's family were against the relationship). Anyway they had a company party. Seemed to me like a business party. Tonto looked nice and here comes Ini looking so razz I almost choked on the goat meat I was eating. It looks so classless and I so agree with this article on that. We only have a handful of ladies that know how to put the their outfits together to match a scene.

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Don't they hire people to help with the appropriate atires. Ini looks the same as church goer, streetwalker and housewife. I don't get it.

I agreed with you I also notice that the name of the movie is The Princess of my Life you know what I like ini a lot but I am never impress with her dressing in movies she has a bad taste in fashion no offence but is the truth, you know what I know Tonto uses lot of make -up in movies especially her lip loss but she has a better fashion taste than most nollywood actressess she does her own costumes in movies. So if she can choose her own costumes so can the others.

TheForce · #26 (**permalink**) 08-12-2008, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilhemina

......... she does her own costumes in movies. So if she can choose her own costumes so can the others.

Actors are not suppose to choose their own costumes in the first place.

Angelsty · #27 (**permalink**) 08-12-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheForce

Actors are not suppose to choose their own costumes in the first place.

Dont mind them!! They just want to show off their outfits!

The next movie I costume, the ONLY things they would bring on set to wear would be their boxers, pants and bras!!

Angela81 · #28 (**permalink**) 09-26-2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelsty

Dont mind them!! They just want to show off their outfits!

The next movie I costume, the ONLY things they would bring on set to wear would be their boxers, pants and bras!!

power to you sister!!

Folashade · #29 (**permalink**) 09-26-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelsty

Dont mind them!! They just want to show off their outfits!

The next movie I costume, the ONLY things they would bring on set to wear would be their boxers, pants and bras!!

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, pls have mercy on them.
can u imagine how some of them will look in their boxers, pants and bras?