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10-11-2005, 09:23 AM
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Nigerian Political State!!!!
I hope I'm posting in the right section, but if not, I'm sure it'll moved to it's proper space. I truly want to know from the folks that understand Nigerian Politics and its present state ONLY!!! Where is Niaja headed? Lately, we abroad, have been reading GREAT things that seems like we're moving forward, Obasanjo wants to rid us of corruption, Police force is getting cleaned up, Entertainment industry is cracking down on piracy...Human Rights issues are taking precedence....All these wonderful things, yet we go home or talk to the people at home, and it's 'business as usual'. They don't see the changes we're reading about, they are not optimistic about the present government, they're oblivious. My questions are as follows:
Are the 'great things' we're reading about false or just for international show?
Has Uncle Sege elevated or deteriorated our Fatherland?
Are more people conscious of Human rights and is the the convicition of 'help one, help all' taking shape?
Is Nigeria safer to live, do business, visit?
Is IBB coming back to power, thereby restoring the military dictatorship?
Is Uncle Sege a man of his own or is he merely a puppet?
What can I expect from my Fatherland in the next 5-10 years?
I'm interested more than ever because I too am tired of the rat race here and will like to go home soon, however, I want to know that we're making progress and we're not jumping from frying pan to fire
Again, Candor and knowledge is what I want, folks that really understand and KNOW how our government works at home.
Thanks and I look forward to all responses!!!
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10-11-2005, 11:04 AM
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[quote=kaymax]I hope I'm posting in the right section, but if not, I'm sure it'll moved to it's proper space. I truly want to know from the folks that understand Nigerian Politics and its present state ONLY!!! Where is Niaja headed? Lately, we abroad, have been reading GREAT things that seems like we're moving forward, Obasanjo wants to rid us of corruption, Police force is getting cleaned up, Entertainment industry is cracking down on piracy...Human Rights issues are taking precedence....All these wonderful things, yet we go home or talk to the people at home, and it's 'business as usual'. They don't see the changes we're reading about, they are not optimistic about the present government, they're oblivious. My questions are as follows:QUOTE]
Are the 'great things' we're reading about false or just for international show?
While i won't say that it's for international show, many of the changes are conditions set forth in the debt relief program for Nigeria.
Has Uncle Sege elevated or deteriorated our Fatherland?
I'm sure many people will say he's caused more damage than good, considering his past. However I think his last administration as we are seeing has done far more good than any of the administrations of the past 20 years.
Are more people conscious of Human rights and is the the convicition of 'help one, help all' taking shape?
I think people in our nation have always been conscious of human rights and "help one, help all" but what has changed is that in recent times more people are willing to take up the fight in intellectual ways. That is more Nigerians are setting up NGOs and not waiting around for government to fulfill needs. There's more of an organized fight for human rights in Nigeria. I also think we've seen people like Ken Saro Wiwa and his comrades hung and many people are more aware and willing to fight for those same principles.
Is Nigeria safer to live, do business, visit?
From my experience and others that have been related to me, compared with the last 8-10 years, Nigeria is minutely safer now and a more conducive environment for business development. By no means is it where it should be but indicators point to the fact that it's better now than say six years ago.
Is IBB coming back to power, thereby restoring the military dictatorship?
IBB does not want to return as military man but as a civilian leader. This is NEVER going to happen.
Is Uncle Sege a man of his own or is he merely a puppet?
None of the current political crop in Nigeria are men or women of their own. They have been helped and "supported" along the way. However there are a few men/women who want to use their position to make a change and make a positive difference. As for Obasanjo we all know he had his political backers (IBB for example) but he has shown in recent times that not all of these people should expect 100% loyalty from him. Speaking to someone I know who has access to Obasanjo, he has said that Obasanjo is harboring a "savior complex" that he he really really REALLY wants to go down in history as the one who "saved" Nigeria. He craves international recognition and respect and he feels very strongly that HE does more for Africa than the South Africans. So while his motives for doing good in the country might not be completely humble, he still very much carrying his OWN agenda and not so much those of the puppeteers.
What can I expect from my Fatherland in the next 5-10 years?
This entirely depends on the election of 2007. If a new government comes in that wants to expand on the efforts of the Obasanjo administration then you can expect that the country will get better economically. Stability is the key for Nigeria....growth and stability. In countries like the states for example, the changing of administration doesn't signal the overhauling of EVERYTHING, however in Nigeria, history has taught us that this is the case. So that is your answer............depends on the next election.
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10-11-2005, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kaymax
I hope I'm posting in the right section, but if not, I'm sure it'll moved to it's proper space. I truly want to know from the folks that understand Nigerian Politics and its present state ONLY!!! Where is Niaja headed? Lately, we abroad, have been reading GREAT things that seems like we're moving forward, Obasanjo wants to rid us of corruption, Police force is getting cleaned up, Entertainment industry is cracking down on piracy...Human Rights issues are taking precedence....All these wonderful things, yet we go home or talk to the people at home, and it's 'business as usual'. They don't see the changes we're reading about, they are not optimistic about the present government, they're oblivious. My questions are as follows:QUOTE]
Are the 'great things' we're reading about false or just for international show?
While i won't say that it's for international show, many of the changes are conditions set forth in the debt relief program for Nigeria.
Has Uncle Sege elevated or deteriorated our Fatherland?
I'm sure many people will say he's caused more damage than good, considering his past. However I think his last administration as we are seeing has done far more good than any of the administrations of the past 20 years.
Are more people conscious of Human rights and is the the convicition of 'help one, help all' taking shape?
I think people in our nation have always been conscious of human rights and "help one, help all" but what has changed is that in recent times more people are willing to take up the fight in intellectual ways. That is more Nigerians are setting up NGOs and not waiting around for government to fulfill needs. There's more of an organized fight for human rights in Nigeria. I also think we've seen people like Ken Saro Wiwa and his comrades hung and many people are more aware and willing to fight for those same principles.
Is Nigeria safer to live, do business, visit?
From my experience and others that have been related to me, compared with the last 8-10 years, Nigeria is minutely safer now and a more conducive environment for business development. By no means is it where it should be but indicators point to the fact that it's better now than say six years ago.
Is IBB coming back to power, thereby restoring the military dictatorship?
IBB does not want to return as military man but as a civilian leader. This is NEVER going to happen.
Is Uncle Sege a man of his own or is he merely a puppet?
None of the current political crop in Nigeria are men or women of their own. They have been helped and "supported" along the way. However there are a few men/women who want to use their position to make a change and make a positive difference. As for Obasanjo we all know he had his political backers (IBB for example) but he has shown in recent times that not all of these people should expect 100% loyalty from him. Speaking to someone I know who has access to Obasanjo, he has said that Obasanjo is harboring a "savior complex" that he he really really REALLY wants to go down in history as the one who "saved" Nigeria. He craves international recognition and respect and he feels very strongly that HE does more for Africa than the South Africans. So while his motives for doing good in the country might not be completely humble, he still very much carrying his OWN agenda and not so much those of the puppeteers.
What can I expect from my Fatherland in the next 5-10 years?
This entirely depends on the election of 2007. If a new government comes in that wants to expand on the efforts of the Obasanjo administration then you can expect that the country will get better economically. Stability is the key for Nigeria....growth and stability. In countries like the states for example, the changing of administration doesn't signal the overhauling of EVERYTHING, however in Nigeria, history has taught us that this is the case. So that is your answer............depends on the next election.
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Obasanjo is harboring a "savior complex" that he he really really REALLY wants to go down in history as the one who "saved" Nigeria. He craves international recognition and respect and he feels very strongly that HE does more for Africa than the South Africans. So while his motives for doing good in the country might not be completely humble, he still very much carrying his OWN agenda and not so much those of the puppeteers.
Whatever his motives are, as long as it turns out well for US, it's all good. So you don't think IBB has a chance? How do you explain the lack of motivation within the nation itself amongst everyday folks? How does one explain the refusal to 'give props' to the things that do seem to be moving forward and changing? Most folks I talk to at home don't seem to want to acknowledge the small steps taken.
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10-11-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Funmibaby
Whatever his motives are, as long as it turns out well for US, it's all good. So you don't think IBB has a chance? How do you explain the lack of motivation within the nation itself amongst everyday folks? How does one explain the refusal to 'give props' to the things that do seem to be moving forward and changing? Most folks I talk to at home don't seem to want to acknowledge the small steps taken.
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So you don't think IBB has a chance?
No i don't think another IBB presidency will manifest itself. I don't particularly believe IBB himself has fully made up his mind on the issue. I think what he would LOVE is a chance to change public perception of his image because if you've read anything Babangida has said you will see that he truly believes that he has done some good for the country, or at least he really wants you to believe that! Apart from IBB himself, Nuhu Ribadu of EFCC has said many times that over his dead body will IBB become president again. Now that may very well happen, but for Ribadu i think he means business. As it is if babangida steps out of the country, i guarantee you he'll be nabbed that same minute. Either way I think there's quite a force of able people who are against an IBB presidency.
How do you explain the lack of motivation within the nation itself amongst everyday folks?
Everday living in Nigeria is hard. That's basically the explanation for that. Generally it's people with some food in their stomach that have the time to ponder economic issues. Not that they don't care per se, but if you look at the hierarchy of needs for humans, you'll see that other things come first.
How does one explain the refusal to 'give props' to the things that do seem to be moving forward and changing?
Because of our political history many people have only skepticism when it comes to the government and it's not the kind of skepticism you encounter in the states where it's a general distrust of government but they still believe in the need of a government. Nigerians at this point have absolutely nothing to believe in, no one to believe in, no history to fall back on. It's a nation that has been let down time after time after time again so there absolutely no reason to believe that the next time around won't be a let down. And indeed we so used to that now that people in fact LOOK for the let down even if there is none, it is fabricated. This way everyone can go on with the national pastime of complaining and abusing the government. It's a system that has been built over the years to buffer disappointment. Personally, i think this is the single saddest thing we do as a nation, it is the saddest byproduct of a history of degradation.
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Ditto at bolded. Just too busy to come up with answers now, the answers are in my head, but can't put them down now, can't use my billable hours on NR ya know.
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