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01-12-2006, 02:49 PM
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Its so heart-breaking too and i wish to see a way to solve the problems..but who knows, what if did people that die chosed to die believing they were going to paradise and wished to end it there than anywhere else...have u guys wondered? U could be amazed at people's believes u know.
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01-12-2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubscrown
So you saying, people intentionally go there despite them knowing thing might go wrong and get trampled to death because its a priviledge to die stoning the devil?
I mean if you can stone the devil then you must be able to see him bleed then or what happen to devil after thousands of stones?
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Never did I say that! Please read carefully before jumping the gun. 
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01-12-2006, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by samira
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Can you explain yourself further then?
And I will like to know what happens when the devil is stoned. Does he bleed or run and start screaming for help?
I mean this is 2006, only barbarians or aborigines will go bunker for this unintelligent mindset.
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01-12-2006, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by khamileon
I have asked Medden before about this and he is yet to respond....and here we are again more people are dead!.... U know what, am gon open a thread about this
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The respond is coming soon. I will try and answer your question to the best of my knowledge and ability. Be patient bro.
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01-12-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by khamileon
GBAM! cause there is absolutely nothing myesterious about the Deaths cause ist cause by over-crowding.... My own is when are they gon start doing something about this deaths?? Is it possible to stop the Ritual altogether?? Cause every Moslem pilgrim wants to stone the kabbah and this usualy results to deaths of innocent people... I think something must be done to save these lives
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Abeg Khamileon,stop using the word ritual and call its real name.Why do you people enjoy giving names and meaning to stuff inorder to make it look real bad.The Pilgrim is overcrowded and in situation like that anything can happen,not while throwing the stones alone i mean it can happen anywhere.No strings attached tho just stop reading meaning to stuff.
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01-12-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by vince
In an event that is so overcrowded,tragic mishaps like this will always occur.There is no need to read a "mysterious" meaning into it.
Mishaps like this happen yearly during the hajj.It did,last year too,and it probably will in future hajjs,unfortunately.The crowd is just too much.
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You're just amazing. 
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01-12-2006, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubscrown
Can you explain yourself further then?
And I will like to know what happens when the devil is stoned. Does he bleed or run and start screaming for help?
I mean this is 2006, only barbarians or aborigines will go bunker for this unintelligent mindset.
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Did u just say you wanna know wot will happen to the devils when stoned,chei you people wont cease to amaze me.Its just a matter of thinking so go figure.
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01-12-2006, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by khamileon
GBAM! cause there is absolutely nothing myesterious about the Deaths cause ist cause by over-crowding.... My own is when are they gon start doing something about this deaths?? Is it possible to stop the Ritual altogether?? Cause every Moslem pilgrim wants to stone the kabbah and this usualy results to deaths of innocent people... I think something must be done to save these lives
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@highlighted. Men cannot make decisions for Allah. He's the God who decide the fate of men.
The ritual cannot be stopped. It will continue and whatever happens is the will of Allah. Allah is a supreme being
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01-12-2006, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Satat
just wondering..... blacis that a sort of human sacrifice to the 'deity' yearly then? Like blood must be shed on the k altar there? hmmm...
why wont they then stop the act!? Ooops! the devil is thirsty!! They stone him, and he drinks their blood!!  bouhahahahaha |
Yes it's the kind of human sacrifice you see everyday.
Ignorance is a disease that is very hard to cure.
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01-12-2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubscrown
Can you explain yourself further then?
And I will like to know what happens when the devil is stoned. Does he bleed or run and start screaming for help?
I mean this is 2006, only barbarians or aborigines will go bunker for this unintelligent mindset.
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@highlighted...does what you have highlighted make sense to you? If you are not sure of the reason why Muslims go to Mecca and the stoning of the devil and so forth, ask, but do not speak as if its coming from your asss instead of your lips...sorry if I sound harsh, but seriously speaking, you asked for it!
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01-12-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vince
In an event that is so overcrowded,tragic mishaps like this will always occur.There is no need to read a "mysterious" meaning into it.
Mishaps like this happen yearly during the hajj.It did,last year too,and it probably will in future hajjs,unfortunately.The crowd is just too much.
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I second you on that!
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01-12-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Meddeen250
Yes it's the kind of human sacrifice you see everyday.
Ignorance is a disease that is very hard to cure.
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I knew you will handle this. greetings my brother.
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01-12-2006, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by samira
@highlighted...does what you have highlighted make sense to you? If you are not sure of the reason why Muslims go to Mecca and the stoning of the devil and so forth, ask, but do not speak as if its coming from your asss instead of your lips...sorry if I sound harsh, but seriously speaking, you asked for it!
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You know what Samira, sometimes i think about why threads like this are been opened.Just imagine questions are been asked but they always end up answering the questions themselves by jumping into conclusion and without the facts,isnt that wierd?
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01-12-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubscrown
Can you explain yourself further then?
And I will like to know what happens when the devil is stoned. Does he bleed or run and start screaming for help?
I mean this is 2006, only barbarians or aborigines will go bunker for this unintelligent mindset.
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@Highlighted. What happens when pastors claim they're casting out demons (exorcism). Does the demon cry and beg for mercy? Does he really come out?
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01-12-2006, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Meddeen250
@Highlighted. What happens when pastors claim they're casting out demons (exorcism). Does the demon cry and beg for mercy? Does he really come out?
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Common Meddeen,he only asked a question.
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LIFE ENDS WHEN YOU STOP DREAMING, HOPE ENDS WHEN YOU STOP BELIEVING AND LOVE ENDS WHEN YOU STOP CARING SO DREAM, HOPE AND LOVE BECAUSE LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL.
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