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Originally Posted by Gen Sani Abacha
The Niger-Deltans have a big greivance against the Nigerian Federal Govt.
The Govt should step up, and give the Niger-Deltans their dues!
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I concur,el general.
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I concur,el general. 
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 Exactly my point, the govt. needs to do something. The Niger-Deltans do deserve a better life and should benefit from the oil company. They must have weak links representing them in the political office.
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Originally Posted by Benin
Well actually this has already been happening. In just the past 2 or 3 years more funds have been channeled into the development of the Delta region than what has gone in in the past 2 to 3 decades priorly. OBJ has establish a whole special interest organization in which is made up of a number of natives to the area, and geared with the task of being the go-between between the region and the government so to insure that sufficient attention is being paid to the area.
Beyond extensive increases in gov. expenditures in the area, the oil companies, upon demand by the gov., have also significantly increased their investment in the infrastructure of the area in the past few years.. while also having, to a large extent, cleaned up their methods of operation in the area with further compliance with the government to drastically increase their performance along these lines into the near future.
Hugh amounts of money in which I believe run into the billions...are being put to the side by the companies as investment funds for the region..Today, the actions of these insubordinate kids are more than likely doing much more polluting and destruction of the region than that of the oil companies.
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Check out all the environmental degradation, the poor health care, the lack of infrastructure in the area.
The Naija Fed Govt needs to sort that out NOW!!!
The Fed ministry of works or such bodies, need to do some overtime in the Naija Delta area. Nothing less will do!
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Negotiations between the government and the rebels are said to be continuing.
The foreign hostages have been captive for nine days and kidnappers say one of the men, an American, is very ill.
The hostages were allowed to speak by phone to the Reuters news agency on Thursday.
British hostage Nigel Watson-Clark said that all the men were suffering from diarrhoea and fatigue.
Mr Watson-Clark said they were being moved to different hiding places around creeks and swamps to avoid Nigerian army patrols.
Harassment
The rebel group, the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta, is demanding the release of separatist leader Mujahid Dokubu Asari, being held on treason charges, as well as former governor Diepreye Alamieyeseigha, accused of corruption and money-laundering
The previously unknown group has also reiterated a demand for compensation of $1.5bn from the Shell oil company for pollution in the region.
The group attacked a Royal Dutch Shell pumping station near the port of Warri last weekend, prompting the oil giant to withdraw 330 workers.
Oil workers' unions in Nigeria have threatened to withdraw members from the main oil-producing region unless the government moves to improve security.
The instability has led to a 10% fall in Nigeria's oil production. The country is Africa's leading oil exporter and the fifth-biggest source of US oil imports.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4633644.stm
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This is a very simple issue to resolve. If na me be president, I'll just relocate my seat of power temporarily to the delta for a year, give direct contracts to the same folks that developed Dubai(another oil city that got it right), fund the development with the excess crude oil largess...chikena! everybody is happy. Anyone who has ever gone to Bayelsa and the delta region go understand their anger. Though if na me be the millitants, I'll deal with the governors and LG chairmen and all those 10 kobo 'elders' wey dey collect egunje behind from the oil companies. The money wey 'ALAMS, THE ESCAPEE GOV' chop (#124 billion) is enough to turn Bayelsa into a mini obodo oyibo.
I feel something in the air, naija go beta soon. Na turning point years we dey. I predict that by 2015 (that's my year of going back and it is divine), the country go don change well well. Una go see.
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Originally Posted by zelifat
This is a very simple issue to resolve. If na me be president, I'll just relocate my seat of power temporarily to the delta for a year, give direct contracts to the same folks that developed Dubai(another oil city that got it right), fund the development with the excess crude oil largess...chikena! everybody is happy. Anyone who has ever gone to Bayelsa and the delta region go understand their anger. Though if na me be the millitants, I'll deal with the governors and LG chairmen and all those 10 kobo 'elders' wey dey collect egunje behind from the oil companies. The money wey 'ALAMS, THE ESCAPEE GOV' chop (#124 billion) is enough to turn Bayelsa into a mini obodo oyibo.
I feel something in the air, naija go beta soon. Na turning point years we dey. I predict that by 2015 (that's my year of going back and it is divine), the country go don change well well. Una go see.
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01-22-2006, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by goseiant
What a shame in this day and age. When they attack all the companies and destroy things who are they hurting. It's understandable if they want better living standards and good share of the oil money, but they should try to do that in a civilized manner.
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01-22-2006, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bluestocking
This problem has been festering for years and everybody turned a blind eye. Was this not the same thing the Ogonis were struggling for and why Ken Saro-wiwa was killed? You cant come to a land and devastate it as much these oil corporations have done, without compensating or rather compensating the wrong people and not expect a backlash someday. These people cant farm, they cant fish, how can they survive? Even if we say ah, Ijaw people are lazy bla bla, when you give them the money they wont do anything useful with it' at least give it to them first, empower them, even resettle them, create alternative employement for them and then lets see if things wont change.
But no, these oil corporations have refused to do the right thing, so how do we expect the youths to one day take action, good or bad?
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You are very right. It's time for them to take action!
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All on paper. That's the problem with OBJ's govt, everything looks good on paper.
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On paper, ey?? EFCC's progress is looking good only on paper? Naija rescheduled and chopped debt is good only on paper? (one you can relate to)...> The nation's restructured and strengthened banking system/industry is looking good only on paper?  A massively expanded, telecommunications market and notoriety as one of the worlds fastest expanding telecommunication markets is looking good only on paper?
Rapid expansion of the nations cassava production and sales along with other staple crops is looking good only on paper? The creation of a space program, and launch of one very successful satellite, with another more powerful and productive one to go up this year and another, even stronger one, soon after that.. is looking good only on paper?
A major decrease in the nation's inflation rate over the past year or two.. is looking good only on paper? The return of the nation's two major steel production plants into operation after years of neglect... is looking good only on paper?  I can go on and on with this, but why bother since it all only looks good on paper, right?
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Originally Posted by Benin
On paper, ey?? EFCC's progress is looking good only on paper? Naija rescheduled and chopped debt is good only on paper? (one you can relate to)...> The nation's restructured and strengthened banking system/industry is looking good only on paper?  A massively expanded, telecommunications market and notoriety as one of the worlds fastest expanding telecommunication markets is looking good only on paper?
Rapid expansion of the nations cassava production and sales along with other staple crops is looking good only on paper? The creation of a space program, and launch of one very successful satellite, with another more powerful and productive one to go up this year and another, even stronger one, soon after that.. is looking good only on paper?
A major decrease in the nation's inflation rate over the past year or two.. is looking good only on paper? The return of the nation's two major steel production plants into operation after years of neglect... is looking good only on paper?  I can go on and on with this, but why bother since it all only looks good on paper, right? 
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Please Benin, dont let's even start.
What's economic reform if people are dying of poverty and hunger right now? what's my concern with what Nigeria will look like in 15 or 20 years when i'm not even sure of seeing the next day? What's Banking reform to me when 5 of my friends who used to work in banks are now out of jobs or have been forced to take a lower salary because the banks they worked for couldnt meet up with Soludo's capital base requirements? Tell me is that growth? shouldnt something that claims to reform have a human face?
Massively expanding telecommunications where only a few people benefit? MTN came to Nigeria and declared an unprecedented profit, yet telecommunication is still unaffordable to the majority of the populace?
What's so great about OBJ's policies when i cant be sure that i wont be robbed in a bus on my way from work? Or where a policeman could shoot me just because he asked me out and i refused? or where from day to day there's no electricity? or good roads or even potable water?
You say there's a major decrease in inflation, yet last year Nigeria's inflation rate was 18.4% percent? A bag of rice was 5000 in 2004 but by 2005 it was 6,500, please explain to me or even the common man on the street how that is a major decrease in inflation?
Or do you wanna talk about unemployment? I dont readily have the figures for unemployement rates but i can assure that there are absolutely no jobs in naija. last year my sister went to write an entrance test into one of these newly consolidated banks and there were more than 10000,as in ten thousand,people who came to write this test and this was in just one venue in lagos. Now tell me, how many positions could this bank have had? that at least 10,000 applicants would apply?
Our major steel production plants have been revamped yet we still import steel products? Or you wanna talk about our refineries?
You wanna talk about education? I recently conducted a research in some universities and i had the students fill out questionnaires in thier own words, boy! was i appalled? Final year students who can write comprehensible sentences in english? People who cant spell words as simple as talk? BTW do you know the percentage of the budget that was voted for education last year? 10%? 5%? No it was 1%!!
what's the launch of a satelite to the average man on the street? what does it mean to him in real terms? It's just an ego trip for the govt, that's all.
Look all these reforms look good on paper but you have to experience it to know what it's like. Bottomline is, maybe in 5 years or 10 years or 15 years things will be better but right now nothing is really happening, it's just the resillient nature of the Nigerian that's making us survive from day to day. But one day people will run out of patience and that's what's happening now.
I'd love for you to come and live here for just one year, dont come and live in any high-brow area o, or live in abuja o. Come to lagos and see what's it's like trying to survive from day to day, only then will i listen to you when you talk about how good the govt's policies are. QED!
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Please Benin, dont let's even start.
What's economic reform if people are dying of poverty and hunger right now? what's my concern with what Nigeria will look like in 15 or 20 years when i'm not even sure of seeing the next day? What's Banking reform to me when 5 of my friends who used to work in banks are now out of jobs or have been forced to take a lower salary because the banks they worked for couldnt meet up with Soludo's capital base requirements? Tell me is that growth? shouldnt something that claims to reform have a human face?
Massively expanding telecommunications where only a few people benefit? MTN came to Nigeria and declared an unprecedented profit, yet telecommunication is still unaffordable to the majority of the populace?
What's so great about OBJ's policies when i cant be sure that i wont be robbed in a bus on my way from work? Or where a policeman could shoot me just because he asked me out and i refused? or where from day to day there's no electricity? or good roads or even potable water?
You say there's a major decrease in inflation, yet last year Nigeria's inflation rate was 18.4% percent? A bag of rice was 5000 in 2004 but by 2005 it was 6,500, please explain to me or even the common man on the street how that is a major decrease in inflation?
Or do you wanna talk about unemployment? I dont readily have the figures for unemployement rates but i can assure that there are absolutely no jobs in naija. last year my sister went to write an entrance test into one of these newly consolidated banks and there were more than 10000,as in ten thousand,people who came to write this test and this was in just one venue in lagos. Now tell me, how many positions could this bank have had? that at least 10,000 applicants would apply?
Our major steel production plants have been revamped yet we still import steel products? Or you wanna talk about our refineries?
You wanna talk about education? I recently conducted a research in some universities and i had the students fill out questionnaires in thier own words, boy! was i appalled? Final year students who can write comprehensible sentences in english? People who cant spell words as simple as talk? BTW do you know the percentage of the budget that was voted for education last year? 10%? 5%? No it was 1%!!
what's the launch of a satelite to the average man on the street? what does it mean to him in real terms? It's just an ego trip for the govt, that's all.
Look all these reforms look good on paper but you have to experience it to know what it's like. Bottomline is, maybe in 5 years or 10 years or 15 years things will be better but right now nothing is really happening, it's just the resillient nature of the Nigerian that's making us survive from day to day. But one day people will run out of patience and that's what's happening now.
I'd love for you to come and live here for just one year, dont come and live in any high-brow area o, or live in abuja o. Come to lagos and see what's it's like trying to survive from day to day, only then will i listen to you when you talk about how good the govt's policies are. QED!
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oh i see your location is lagos!!..no wonder !!! u wan take obasanjo inflicted stress attack me on other thread,hmmm now i understand and will know how to handle u.from this ya spish i see u in 2007 politiks as em em(still thinking wat post fits u)
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oh i see your location is lagos!!..no wonder !!! u wan take obasanjo inflicted stress attack me on other thread,hmmm now i understand and will know how to handle u.from this ya spish i see u in 2007 politiks as em em(still thinking wat post fits u)
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No be only politics, na politricks. I dey craze?
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No be only politics, na politricks. I dey craze?
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I laugh sometines when I read some of Benin's optimistic comments. Half the time, he has no idea what's really going down on the ground.
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I laugh sometines when I read some of Benin's optimistic comments. Half the time, he has no idea what's really going down on the ground.
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it just shows that OBJ's image makers are doing wonders.
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