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Benin · #16 (**permalink**) 01-26-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by angeleyez

I don't get this your OBJ jare...if he is really anti corruption, why was he trying to mend the relationship of adedibu and ladoja. Someone of OBJ's caliber can kneel down for another person depending on the person's significance...you never know, underground, adedibu might be a god whateva father to OBJ you never know.

Lil Momma, where did you get these ideas from? Where has it been stated that he was trying to mend their relationship, cause all I've seen was reports of him or his aids stating that he would not get involved in the situation and that he has told Ladoja, the thief, that he could do nothing for him? If you have reports handy stating otherwise, I would love for you to post a link to them.

By the way, it's nice to see young women such as yourself being so interested in politics. The world could certainly use alot more of you in the future.

Benin · #17 (**permalink**) 01-26-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by angeleyez

Abeg go sit down, nobody really knows what is going on in that country, we read stuff, we hear stuff and we see stuff and all of us just come to a one big conclusion in our mind about what we think is going on. But since we are not in there midst, we can't really say we know for sure what the hell is happening in that country....my own is what took OBJ so long to want to clean that country. All this satellite crap, nuclear nonsense shouldn't be prioprity what about the citizens of that country, can we do something about the education, jobs e.t.c at the same time he is cleaning up the country. Like I've said before, i don't know much o but this is just my own thoughts. While you are getting rid of the corrupt leaders, can we also build true leaders of tomorrow at the same time?

I've already answered this question. You can find it on post #39, in this thread, or just read it below.

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I would definitely take you up on your offer if I could, but growing work expectations and loads, and a young family, to boot, to look after... makes such a move nearly impossible at this time. By the time I'll get around to doing something like that Naija will probably be a totally different place. But just for reference; the jest of my words were this: If You have no future what good is the present.

If you have no light at the end of the tunnel, why worry about continuing on deeper into darkness. Reform, IMO, has much more to do with reshaping the future than reshaping the present, and as the present moves into the future... things will be seen to be continuously getting better. Look, most of the developments and projects in which the government has put in place and are working on are infantile, they just began operations like a year or two ago, after years of OBJ and other like minded folks bulldozing through a stinking heep of rubbish, so called political bottlenecks and outright Nemesis, seeking democratic destruction.

OBJ's entire first term in office and even some of the first year or more of the current term.. was spent clearing out and straitening out this heap of junk left behind after decades of total political degradation in the nation's system. The fact of that it took 4-5 years and change to clean up that mess to at least a state of being in which simple policies the likes of rebuilding neglected and dilapidated military barracks, or increasing civil service folks allowances a bit... could get through the system without folks bottlenecking them to a near standstill... is a testament to just how low in the dumps the caliber of leadership and law and order in the nation had sunk.

4 Years at the least went strait down the drain in a fight to just tightly up the political mechanism of the nation. That leaves only 4 years or less of REAL action by the government to actually get cracking on doing the things needed to better the lives of those they represent. (((4 YEARS!!!))) In this time, the EFCC was established, credible investors and operators for the steel mills were sought out, along with the refineries.

A satellite was launched investment in agriculture was increased, sea port operations were strengthened, banking system was reformed, foreign investment skyrocketed, and the communications industry grew rapidly. More kids were entered into school than ever before via the UBE program, and mines, closed for many years, yet which can employ thousands of Nigerian laborers while provided new industries in the nation with much needed resources... have been revamped, while others are following suit and some new ones are on the way to being established. Hundreds or Thousands of fresh water systems have been built all over rural Naija, and thousands more will be on the way very soon thanks to Asian, European and American investment in this extremely important project.

Investment in the fight against AIDS and other illnesses threatening the nation has been invested in by the nations government by a level in which dorffs all other nations on the continent, with the exception of maybe South Africa; yet the nation is far from being the greatest infected by many of these illnesses, especially AIDS!! Yet one in which it is the greatest infected, especially when it comes to the north of the nation, Hepatitis, has been jumped on with superb success. Having seen this determination, other nations like the US have shown interest in helping the government strengthen their fight against illness in the nation.

All or most of this, and much more, has taken place in just the past ((3 years)). Yet, with a rapidly growing population of over ((150Mill)) people, most of which is under the age of ((14)). A near totally dilapidated infrastructure from years of mismanagement, a major international PR problem, and a heap of folks still looking to stall the nation's growth... how can you really expect the surroundings of the nation to look all that much different in just ((3)) years of real work?? Patience is a virtue.

Any more questions?

olofofogal · #18 (**permalink**) 01-27-2006, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Benin

I don't have a godfather. I kneel, or beg to no man.

you got it all wrong !..a godfather doesnt necessarily need to be someone u kneel or beg ok?its someone who inspires u in someway and u look up to him,if u still insist u dnt have a godfather u do have GOD THE FATHER dont u?see warrai mean?godfather syndrome reared its ugly head in the time of obasanjo and i still say that obj kneeled before adedibu to beg the man to spare ladoja and adedibu told obj that the matter was beyond begging for,wen obj came out of that meeting he told the press there was nothing he cud do to save ladoja!!!!!!!u are denying that obj didnt knelt before adedibu but has obj denied it himsef?

i just dont believe in obj simple,he should clear out lets try someone else...his anti corruption crusade stinks cos hes targeting a select few to hit home his point while his friends who are so corrupt they cant seebehind him are partying....oh pls dnt even start a conversation u know nothing about khamileon even sounds like he knows this gist berra than u!!!.....by the way i know sóme govs who are stealin money to south africa and they are on obys favourite list but hes not touching them till they step on hs toe!!!!!!

angeleyez · #19 (**permalink**) 01-27-2006, 03:05 PM

Pls, I want the VCD asap. Thanks for the insight sha.

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Originally Posted by khamileon

Dralink! E be like say u be Alien for asking dat kweshion!

Somebody wey dem put there as puppet make im just serve four years, hand over and go!

Somebody wey don try to assasinate so many times??

Country wey dem don loot dry for more than 30yrs??

Country wey full wif Mafia $Billionaires , shey u get Idea wetin people wey get dat kind money fit do??

OBJ inherited a DEAD country. Not even a single thing was working when he got there.... and he was supposed to change all in 4 or six years?? (think deep about this...Not one SINGLE THING was working)

U sabi how difficult it is to chage the status quo of anything in this world??

Make dem put a law for USA say make Police no dey carry gun again. Make all University students dey wiah uniform go school, Make dem legalize the use of Cocain,

make nobody dey pay any sort of tax again. Make dem no pay police salary for six months.... U sure say Clinton,Bush and Carter fit rule America like this??.... Or even fit make any visible change in the next 12yrs?? This na some of the minor problems OBJ inherite... See So many people gain from the curruption and would do everything to see that nobody change their avenue of stealing including killing OBJ.... So my sister the man dey try only say the problem dey too big for people to even appreciate am. Wait till u see RIBADU
interview.. I go send u a copy when I tranfare to VCD

OBJ was planted there for just four yrs to sooth the yoruba people because of Abiola... He used that four yrs to study Naija and saw the madness going on... Now dont forget the peeps that planted him there wanted him to leave at once after the four yrs... He plead, begged, used all tricks he knew to get another four yrs... And right before their eyes the man they thought was their puppet transformed and went after them... Mydear Naija na Mafia country deeper than what peeps know...... As far as am concerned OBJ is just trying to jumpstart a DEAD country...though so many peeps still want it dead. RIBADU in less than 3yrs has recorvered over 200 billion naira of stolen money! Nothing like this has even been donein the History of Nigeria. My dear if u hear RIBADU talk... the passion and sincerity in his voice and his dream and focus for a better Nigeria will make u feel extra proud being a Nigeria

angeleyez · #20 (**permalink**) 01-27-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Benin

Lil Momma, where did you get these ideas from? Where has it been stated that he was trying to mend their relationship, cause all I've seen was reports of him or his aids stating that he would not get involved in the situation and that he has told Ladoja, the thief, that he could do nothing for him? If you have reports handy stating otherwise, I would love for you to post a link to them.

By the way, it's nice to see young women such as yourself being so interested in politics. The world could certainly use alot more of you in the future.

When I have time, I will look for it. It was Adedibu that said it in his interview.

angeleyez · #21 (**permalink**) 01-27-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Benin

I've already answered this question. You can find it on post #39, in this thread, or just read it below.

Any more questions?

No more questions for now, thanks for the info. I missed this post.

angeleyez · #22 (**permalink**) 01-27-2006, 03:16 PM

My question now is, who is Dangote? Is that how to spell the name? Don't mind my ignorance o, I'm just trying to learn here, I need information if y'all know what i mean.

Benin · #23 (**permalink**) 01-27-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by angeleyez

My question now is, who is Dangote? Is that how to spell the name? Don't mind my ignorance o, I'm just trying to learn here, I need information if y'all know what i mean.

In short, Dangote is a very wealthy Nigerian Tycoon. His Business operates in Steele production, food packaging, flour production, Sugar too... I think, cement production, electric production and more. I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future he began getting into the electronics, aviation, automotive, and locomotive industries, as well... in do part to the fact of that he seems to specialize in entering highly demanded, yet non existent or failing operations in the nation, and revamps sectors of these things into very productive and profitable entities. NEXT!!