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12-27-2007, 11:21 AM
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..all I'm saying is that it's not proven..there are many different factions in that country...Musharraf had been going with all the developments in recent months as a level headed leader trying to maintain composure in his country...the only thing I personally thought Bhutto brought was destabilization..because she was kicked out of power for corruption..has been living in a $2000/day hotel in another arab country before her return..how she manage afford am?She wanted to marshall her way to the president and snatch power by any means necessary and not everybody,military or otherwise,may have wanted that..
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12-27-2007, 11:21 AM
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..oh...I see...  ...what really made me mad was how the US was behind Musharraf in their fight to catch Osama...and then diplomatically turned against him in the name of democracy when Bhutto showed up on the scene....and making her look like a saint in the process...and she's not...
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That's true... I just don't understand assasination as a political tool or weapon. Will we ever outgrow this type of thinking???
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12-27-2007, 11:25 AM
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That's true... I just don't understand assasination as a political tool or weapon. Will we ever outgrow this type of thinking???
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I dont think so... human beings in politics refuse to use their brian make a convincing speech to get people on ur side... no they can do that... this is the only way they know... killing each other just to abotain powers...narrow minded fools
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12-27-2007, 11:26 AM
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They made sure they got her this time. Not only did the bomber shoot her, he also blew himself up next to Bhutto. The Pakistani military have succeeded in wiping out the Bhutto family. Sad! Very sad Indeed! 
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Like the Ghandi's in India.... Unreal....
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12-27-2007, 11:29 AM
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I dont think so... human beings in politics refuse to use their brian make a convincing speech to get people on ur side... no they can do that... this is the only way they know... killing each other just to abotain powers...narrow minded fools
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But for all intent and purposes it does not exist, on a large or grand scale, as part of the process in the US, UK, Japan and some other nations.... No matter how violent their histories, they seem to have been able to move away from political assasinations and violence as part of the process...
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That's true... I just don't understand assasination as a political tool or weapon. Will we ever outgrow this type of thinking???
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....maybe not.........sad but sometimes necessary.Not necessarily in the case of Bhutto though....but in a lot of other cases assassination is always a welcomed option..I mean..can U imagine Idi Amin still ruling Uganda?or Abacha in Nigeria???????..............?
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12-27-2007, 11:31 AM
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But for all intent and purposes it does not exist, on a large or grand scale, as part of the process in the US, UK, Japan and some other nations.... No matter how violent their histories, they seem to have been able to move away from political assasinations and violence as part of the process...
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...yeah...but no one in the UK,US or Japan believes he'd get 7 virgins in heaven for blowing himself up na......
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Na wa o!So they finally dealt with this woman?Why she come return into politics in such a violent anti-feminine country?
Wey she for just stay jeje for where she bin dey in exile,all this while.
Pakistan is not India.
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....maybe not.........sad but sometimes necessary.Not necessarily in the case of Bhutto though....but in a lot of other cases assassination is always a welcomed option..I mean..can U imagine Idi Amin still ruling Uganda?or Abacha in Nigeria???????..............? 
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Right! But those were situations of dictatorship. I mean where democracy is attempted, this type of thinking must be eradicated or true democracy cannot thrive. Notice this type of thinking occurs in nations where power can be, and usually is, taken by force. The natural reaction is that violence and force is the "only" way to obtain rule or power....
The key is enforcement. Enforcement and true judicial process.
I was watching a documentary on President Lincoln's assasinator, John Wilkes Booth. He was a Conferderate sympathizer and had been planning an assasination throughout the American civil war. But only after the war was over did he excute a plan that succeeded.. He thought he would be considered a hero to the south. Although his views were indeed shared by many former Conferderates, killing a president or a leader was not part of the phyche of the American people. He was universally condemed! Thus the biggest manhunt in the history of the world, at that time, was born. They made a law that helping the fugitives was a crime punishable by death! The country, north and south, did not rest till all parties were brought to justice. With Booth being killed during capture and 4 others being hanged...
This sent the clear, uncut, direct message. These type of acts will not be tolerated ever. And anyone who dares to engage with be hunted down, caught and prosecuted.
The key to any lawful society is just that... Law....
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...yeah...but no one in the UK,US or Japan believes he'd get 7 virgins in heaven for blowing himself up na......
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Or if they do, they can just order them on the internet....
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They made sure they got her this time. Not only did the bomber shoot her, he also blew himself up next to Bhutto. The Pakistani military have succeeded in wiping out the Bhutto family. Sad! Very sad Indeed! 
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Why is everyone blaming the Pakistani military?
Firstly, there was an agreement between Musharaf and the West that elections will be held in January and the winner will become Pakistan's next Prime Minister.
Secondly, even though Bhutto was slight favourite, there was never any guarantee she would have won the elections as another former Prime Minister Nawaz Shariff was also in a strong position.
Finally, the assassination of Bhutto doesn't mean elections will not be held. Maybe elections will be po | |