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05-07-2008, 12:05 AM
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The man is on fiya. Closing up the gap in Indiana. I think he has closed the deal and Clinton should give it up. Unless the Supers irrationally go to her (making lots of trouble!!), I do believe the race is over!!
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McGovern, former Clinton backer, endorses Obama
McGovern, former Clinton backer, endorses Obama
By DENNIS GALE, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 8 minutes ago
Former Sen. George McGovern, an early supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, urged her to drop out of the Democratic presidential race and endorsed her rival, Barack Obama.
After watching the returns from the North Carolina and Indiana primaries Tuesday night, McGovern said Wednesday it's virtually impossible for Clinton to win the nomination. The 1972 Democratic presidential nominee said he had a call in to former President Clinton to tell him of the decision, adding that he remains close friends with the Clintons.
"I will hold them in affection and admiration all of my days," he said of the Clintons.
McGovern's announcement comes a day before Clinton was scheduled to travel to South Dakota to campaign. The state holds its primary June 3 with 15 pledged delegates at stake.
McGovern said he had no regrets about endorsing Hillary Clinton months ago, even before the Iowa caucuses.
"She has run a valiant campaign. And she will remain an influential voice in the American future," he said.
But Obama has won the nomination "by any practical test" and is very close to a majority of the pledged delegates, said McGovern, who is 85. Obama moved within 200 delegates of clinching the nomination with his split decision on Tuesday of a win in North Carolina and a narrow loss in Indiana.
It's time to unite the Democratic Party, he said.
"Hillary, of course, will make the decision as to if and when she ends her campaign. But I hope that she reaches that decision soon so that we can concentrate on a unified party capable of winning the White House next November," he said.
McGovern is not a superdelegate, one of the prominent Democrats who has a vote at the national convention.
AP via Yahoo
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05-07-2008, 02:37 PM
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Abeg Sidney leave all these bad belle Clinton haters alone.. They are the reason things seem like this from the beginning. I still can't grab the idea that Obama will be a President while everyone knows he has no way in hell to compete with McCain regarding Security and Foreign Affairs... He doesn't appear tough and firm. One thing that McCain need now is a strong running mate..even if its Romney, Republicans are set to win, unless Obama take Hillary as VP. But she could decide not to take the VP spot and run in 2012 against McCain. Its a set deal, Obama can not win general election unless he has a formidable VP and I can't see any of these white guys that can make that happen for him. Why would someone become president based on being black and idealism?? I just don't get it. He is sure not getting my vote.. I don't trust him or his capability to run a country. Even Hillary may not be likable, I'm very confidence that she will throw herself in every situation just like she's doing right now for the nomination.
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Abeg Sidney leave all these bad belle Clinton haters alone.. They are the reason things seem like this from the beginning. I still can't grab the idea that Obama will be a President while everyone knows he has no way in hell to compete with McCain regarding Security and Foreign Affairs... He doesn't appear tough and firm. One thing that McCain need now is a strong running mate..even if its Romney, Republicans are set to win, unless Obama take Hillary as VP. But she could decide not to take the VP spot and run in 2012 against McCain. Its a set deal, Obama can not win general election unless he has a formidable VP and I can't see any of these white guys that can make that happen for him. Why would someone become president based on being black and idealism?? I just don't get it. He is sure not getting my vote.. I don't trust him or his capability to run a country. Even Hillary may not be likable, I'm very confidence that she will throw herself in every situation just like she's doing right now for the nomination.
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You have a right to your opinion and position.
Again I have always stated that Obama is the closest thing to JFK we have ever seen... JFK had serious electability issues! He was catholic, a one term senator, and lacked the experience Richard Nixon had, who was a Protestant, republican ex-VP. JFK was considered to be an elitist who had no viable indications that he would make a good president. And in the most dangerous of times turned out to be one of the best... Could I be wrong about Obama? Possibly. So many people who voted for JFK were looked at in the same fashion as Obama supporters are now... Please take the time to read about this era and you will see the same similarities.
Sometimes it is not your ability to "throw yourself" into every situation. The most critical of decisions are best made by a person who is thoughtful and rational and will be able to realize when they are wrong. The country is tired of people like GW who forge ahead thinking that they and they alone have all the answers. There is a difference in saying "I am qualified" and saying "He is not"... Once she ventured down that path she left the realm of "this is for the country" and entered where she has always been, "this is my time".
She is so single minded that she forges ahead with single minded will that does not always translate into good results. While this is atimes admirable, it is also very dangerous... Anyone. I repeat, anyone, would have realize by now the damage she is causing to the party. Either Hilary doesn't see it or doesn't care. And that's fine it is her right to do what she see fit. But to be President, you must be able to have the strength to "stop".
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05-07-2008, 03:39 PM
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Obama can be the twin brother of JFK, but as long as he is black, he has one hell of a chance...at this point, it looks bad for Hillary yeah, but I still think that she could have had a better chance than Obama when it comes to the voting with the republicans....At this time, the whites are all for Obama but when he wins for the democrats you will be surprised at what they will do to him when he is running against the republican...that Muslim middle name of his alone sef.....No doubt that Obama is brilliant but the question is does he stand a chance with the republicans? At the end of the day, the end result is what matters and from where I sit, it appears that the republicans will get at least another 4 years under their belt. Now, that is what the democrats should be concerned of.... and that is, who has the better position of winning as a demograt.
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You have a right to your opinion and position.
Again I have always stated that Obama is the closest thing to JFK we have ever seen... JFK had serious electability issues! He was catholic, a one term senator, and lacked the experience Richard Nixon had, who was a Protestant, republican ex-VP. JFK was considered to be an elitist who had no viable indications that he would make a good president. And in the most dangerous of times turned out to be one of the best... Could I be wrong about Obama? Possibly. So many people who voted for JFK were looked at in the same fashion as Obama supporters are now... Please take the time to read about this era and you will see the same similarities.
Sometimes it is not your ability to "throw yourself" into every situation. The most critical of decisions are best made by a person who is thoughtful and rational and will be able to realize when they are wrong. The country is tired of people like GW who forge ahead thinking that they and they alone have all the answers. There is a difference in saying "I am qualified" and saying "He is not"... Once she ventured down that path she left the realm of "this is for the country" and entered where she has always been, "this is my time".
She is so single minded that she forges ahead with single minded will that does not always translate into good results. While this is atimes admirable, it is also very dangerous... Anyone. I repeat, anyone, would have realize by now the damage she is causing to the party. Either Hilary doesn't see it or doesn't care. And that's fine it is her right to do what she see fit. But to be President, you must be able to have the strength to "stop".
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Can you tell me you are convinced that Obama will win general election against McCain and Romney ticket.. And who do you think is better than Hillary for VP?
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05-07-2008, 05:16 PM
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It's time to unite the Democratic Party, he said.
"Hillary, of course, will make the decision as to if and when she ends her campaign. But I hope that she reaches that decision soon so that we can concentrate on a unified party capable of winning the White House next November," he said.
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The sooner the better but she will doggedly draw it out unfortunately. Regardless I fear nether candidate will have much luck against McCain in the coming election.
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05-07-2008, 05:18 PM
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Can you tell me you are convinced that Obama will win general election against McCain and Romney ticket.. And who do you think is better than Hillary for VP?
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I am convinced that Obama will win the general election against McCain for the following reasons:
1)He has a unique ability to unite people and even some Republicans (that are not too fond of McCain) have admitted to liking Obama.
2) Their policies are completely different. McCain wants to keep troops in Iraq for as long as it takes, and he's even been quoted as saying he will keep troops in Iraq for "100 years" if necessary. On the contrary, Obama wants to bring the troops home.
3) Judging by the performance of the current Republican administration at the White House, it will take a disastrous Democratic campaign and a collapse of huge proportions for McCain and his Republican party to have any chance of winning the elections. Such a collapse is still possible if one of the candidates (Hilary or Obama)fail to convince their voters to vote for the chosen nominee.
4) The concern of most Americans at the present time is the economy, and the Democratic party has a fantastic record of economic turnarounds in the US.
The odds are stacked against McCain winning the upcoming elections unless something dramatic happens. Race will not help McCain in the elections bro.
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Can you tell me you are convinced that Obama will win general election against McCain and Romney ticket.. And who do you think is better than Hillary for VP?
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Yes. Obama can beat McCain. The argument that Hilary can beat McCain and Obama can't, is unfounded.
Hilary cannot follow. She will be a contentious, upstaging VP. She will not tow the line if she feels it is not in her best interest or against her own ideas. It would be a disaster.. She might be a better legistrator than whom ever is picked as VP, but she definitely will not be a good VP for anyone other than Bill Clinton himself....
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The sooner the better but she will doggedly draw it out unfortunately. Regardless I fear nether candidate will have much luck against McCain in the coming election.
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But some Republicans are already fearing the worst for McCain because of the performance of the Bush administration.
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Yes. Obama can beat McCain. The argument that Hilary can beat McCain and Obama can't, is unfounded.
Hilary cannot follow. She will be a contentious, upstaging VP. She will not tow the line if she feels it is not in her best interest or against her own ideas. It would be a disaster.. She might be a better legistrator than whom ever is picked as VP, but she definitely will not be a good VP for anyone other than Bill Clinton himself....
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Even Nancy Pelosi doesn't think a joint ticket is a good idea.
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05-07-2008, 05:23 PM
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Yes. Obama can beat McCain. The argument that Hilary can beat McCain and Obama can't, is unfounded.
Hilary cannot follow. She will be a contentious, upstaging VP. She will not tow the line if she feels it is not in her best interest or against her own ideas. It would be a disaster.. She might be a better legistrator than whom ever is picked as VP, but she definitely will not be a good VP for anyone other than Bill Clinton himself....
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I agree. Hilary can only be VP to a weak president or someone without a mind of their own. With another stubborn opinionated person, na wahala. You see Ms Pelosi going to the middle east against Bush's wishes? U neva see anything! With Mrs Clinton. She no go gree, she no go hear. Na real wahala.
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