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04-23-2008, 01:41 AM
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Me too..........I love me some Hilary!
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04-23-2008, 05:46 AM
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Hillary, Hillary, Hillary! Victory! Victory! Victory!
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Originally Posted by Obariba
As to the more charitable question of a choice between Hillary and Obama, my gut instincts say it will be Hillary. Obama may be the more likable young, handsome, rhetorically eloquent poster child of a progressive America (where in lies the lie, yes I know how that sounds) but Clinton is a reflection of America's uncomfortable truth. Dogged, connected, established, calculated, ambitious and effective all in a nicely coiffed exterior. All admirable if she wasn't a she.
Personally, I prefer Clinton. I do not find her likeable but I admire her, every line on her face, every battle, every position she has is earned and won in spite of the fact that she is not a lovable cuddly person. She works hard, she is knowledgeable, she has experienced public admiration, disdain and derision at different levels and roles (student activist, lawyer, mother, wife, first lady, senator) of her adult life and emerged, bruised but winning, hair blow-dried. I can only salute such a person. I am suspicious of the fact that the most important reason I am supposed to like Obama is because he has African roots, so what? I have not even heard a definitive statement about the Kenyan wahala from him. His speeches are too slogany which irks me as a Nigerian used to that sort of hoodwinking (vision 2010, 2025, change agents, change agenda, anticorruption etc, e bloody tc). I am also suspicious of squeaky clean public image or untested public poster children. That deep American drawl, 2.5 kids, stepfordy wife and goody two shoes rhetoric from a black man though understandable (no white establishment anywhere can digest a less dusted down black male) is Oreolly, Denzelly and motivational speaky.
As a Nigerian, I don't expect any of the candidates, including the now frankly uninteresting white males to favour me, however as an Africa black female person I once again lean towards Clinton. This after comparing their actions and positions on things like immigration, foreign policy and women's rights. I actually empathize with Obama because he cannot overtly play that African card too much or it will hurt his candidacy, similarly, if elected he would have to constantly prove that he is not unduly biased by his ethnicity. With experience he will learn to walk that thin line, right now, he hasn't got the experience. Clinton has had to walk that line regarding her gender and has found that balance and her voice.
America stands at the cusp of a very interesting reality; a new sort of leadership is required even if it is only on the surface. None of the white males bring that to bear, Obama would be great if I had more to go by in terms of experience and concrete action but Hillary is more deserving and perhaps better prepared, I like warriors and humans whose flaws I know. However, whether America will vote either of them against a fairly good white male candidate is a matter I am undecided about but I just feel that Clinton might be a more interesting new world leader going forth.
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The road to 1600 Pennsylvania Road runs right through the heart of Pennsylvania."
~ Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton after winning the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary on April 22, 2008.
Thank God, Senator Hillary Clinton has done it again, with another big state win in n Pennsylvania!
It is an outstanding victory for Hillary Clinton who beat Barack Obama by 10 points.
She won 55% of the votes, while Barack Obama won 45%.
Barack Obama spent over $11 million on TV adverts and other strategies in his desperation to win the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary and lost to Hillary Clinton who spent only about $5 million.
Hillary has the artillery to secure victory for the Democratic Party in the Presidential Election in November 2008.
The Democratic Party will lose the Presidential Election without Hillary Clinton.
Only the dream team of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton or Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama can beat John McCain and the political machine of the GOP in the Presidential Election in November.
This is my best advice to Democrats.
God bless America!
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04-23-2008, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by takestyle
who said that you are supposed to feel Obama because of his African roots? i've never heard that argued put forward anywhere.
nice to know that you support dynastic politics, though... they might as well anoint the Clintons and the Bushes as royal families.
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Nice to know u support Obama and his spiritual advisor Reverend Wright
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Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."
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Ill settle for Hillary ..thank you very much !!
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04-23-2008, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Orikinla
The road to 1600 Pennsylvania Road runs right through the heart of Pennsylvania."
~ Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton after winning the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary on April 22, 2008.
Thank God, Senator Hillary Clinton has done it again, with another big state win in n Pennsylvania!
It is an outstanding victory for Hillary Clinton who beat Barack Obama by 10 points.
She won 55% of the votes, while Barack Obama won 45%.
Barack Obama spent over $11 million on TV adverts and other strategies in his desperation to win the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary and lost to Hillary Clinton who spent only about $5 million.
Hillary has the artillery to secure victory for the Democratic Party in the Presidential Election in November 2008.
The Democratic Party will lose the Presidential Election without Hillary Clinton.
Only the dream team of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton or Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama can beat John McCain and the political machine of the GOP in the Presidential Election in November.
This is my best advice to Democrats.
God bless America!
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I am a HillRaiser.
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He is a cheat .....he broke every election rule ...but still lost !
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04-24-2008, 04:44 AM
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He is a cheat .....he broke every election rule ...but still lost !
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OB,this is simply shocking to come from you.Lets not embrace the tear-it-down and by-all-means-necessary appraoch.Democrats would loose if we continue in this path.
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05-06-2008, 06:29 PM
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Well how is everyone feeling
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05-07-2008, 01:59 PM
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We're feeling kind of good actually... Thanks for asking..
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05-07-2008, 04:01 PM
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We're feeling kind of good actually... Thanks for asking.. 
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  that was funny Sid....Ob, u spoke too soon....
However, the democrats are doomed. May God help us...if not another red neck will be seen in the office
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05-08-2008, 04:02 AM
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@Sidney,take a look at this...
Hillary's Two-Way Street
Sally Quinn
Washington Post reporter
"I think you have to speak out against that," said Hillary Clinton. "You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving."
Clinton was talking about what she would have done had she been in Jeremiah Wright's church.
But would she have?
The former first lady has her own Jeremiah Wright. His name is Bill Clinton.
"You don't choose your family but you choose what church you want to attend," she said.
But you do choose your husband.
She chose Bill Clinton. And she has not gotten up and moved.
Instead, she has enabled him over the last 32 years of their marriage, not only standing by him, denying what she knew about his womanizing and trying to delegitimize those who told the truth about it. In fact, it became such a constant in the campaign that his chief of staff Betsey Wright only half jokingly referred to these episodes as "bimbo eruptions."
About one girlfriend, Connie Hamzy, she said,,"We have to destroy her story." About Gennifer Flowers she denied the story even after having a tape played on television about it. It was "attack the motives and the details,"said former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers told Sally Bedell Smith, author of "For Love of Politics" (ever wonder why so many former Clintonites are not supporting her or are actively supporting Obama? And what about Senate colleagues?) . He was accused of sexually harassing Kathleen Willey. He was accused of rape by Juanita Broderick, exposed himself to Paula Jones and finally had a sexual relationship with a 21 year old White House intern, a few years older than his own daughter. When Clinton gave his famous finger wagging speech, lying to the country that "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," Hillary was by his side. "That was Clinton at his cold-blooded worst," former Clinton administration official George Stephanopoulos later wrote. Now, full of self righteous fury, he was lying with true conviction. All that mattered was his survival." And he survived, for one reason only. Hillary Clinton supported him, denied the stories, and allowed White House operatives like Sidney Blumenthal to try to shred the characters of the women he had dallied with, particularly Monica Lewinsky who was portrayed as a stalker and a temptress.
Hillary did not get up and move.
She stood with him while he put their daughter through the most painful, humiliating and embarrassing time of her life. She watched while he squandered the last two years of his administration concentrating on saving himself. She spent days helping prepare for his grand jury testimony in which he repeatedly lied. She was there for his contempt of court citation for lying about Lewinsky and for his impeachment, for his plea bargain which cost him his law license for five years and for his pardon of criminal fugitive and political donor Marc Rich.
She did not get up and move.
Now she is running for President.
When he likened Obama's win in South Carolina to that of Jesse Jackson's years ago, when he described Obama's record of opposing the war in Iraq as "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen " and when he accused the Obama campaign playing "the race card " against him, he succeeded in polarizing the democratic electorate. Caught off mike, he then said, "I don't think I should take any (expletive) from anybody like that."
Later he denied having said it, "no, no no, that's not what I said. You always follow me around and play these little games," he said to a reporter, "and I'm not going to play your games today…You have mischaracterized it to get another cheap story to divert the American people from the real urgent issues before us"
He got red faced and angry when New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson endorsed Obama, declaring that Five times to my face he said he would never do that." Richardson denied that. Hillary was criticized for making up a story and repeating it several times about being under sniper fire in Bosnia, when in fact she took her daughter Chelsea and was greeted on the tarmac by a young child carrying flowers. Bill Clinton remarked, "And I think she was the first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt to go into a combat zone"… (untrue), And some of them, when they're 60, they'll forget something when they're tired at 11 at night, too."
Still, she did not get up and move.
We can only guess what Bill Clinton has up his sleeve next to embarrass and humiliate his wife. More bimbo eruptions? More suspicious deals with foreign governments and questionable business associates? The release of the names of big donors to the Clinton Library and the Clinton Foundation? More painfully conflicted not so subtle put downs of her?
The Clintons have been lucky. Obama has not brought up any of these issues in this campaign. But if the Democrats are afraid of what the Republicans would do in the fall to Obama with Jeremiah Wright, just imagine the glee with which they and Karl Rove are anticipating the Clintons as opponents. Why do you think they are so hard on Obama? Obama is not nearly as vulnerable as Hillary Clinton would be. Besides, Barack Obama completely broke off his relationship with Wright. He got up and moved. Hillary has not.
Should she, will she, can she?
Yes she can. Yes she can. Yes she can.
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