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Old 04-16-2008, 12:48 PM
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You wan fly AA go naija???
lol....dem never start that route. I wish they would soon too!! Dang!

US-Europe-US on AA is awesome! Stop over some days in Germany/Netherlands and then take any of the yeye European flights into naija....but NOT BA!!:
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:56 PM
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:01 PM
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No need... I saw someone wearing a BA uniform this morning and I attacked them! It was a vicious fight and I nearly lost, but eventually I was able to overcome...

Although I think she broke my nose.......
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:11 PM
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No need... I saw someone wearing a BA uniform this morning and I attacked them! It was a vicious fight and I nearly lost, but eventually I was able to overcome...

Although I think she broke my nose.......
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:14 PM
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I'm not Nigerian but I certainly cannot support this airline. I hope that the Nigerians can come together to teach these arrogant fools a lesson.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:29 PM
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I sat down to ponder over the incident that has happened. While i'm so bitter about it.Some issues have not been clear from the statements.
Firstly, the fact that the British press has remained quite is questionable.Back to the main issue,i strongly feel the 135 passengers were wrong to have agreed to being removed from the aircraft by 1 man on the basis of constituting disruption. Its also baffling that no other person has come out to narrate the story of the incident. So far we only have that of the complainant.

Also in this day of technology, if such an incident occur, there would have been a video recording. I dont want to believe that none of the 136 passengers on board have a video recording equipment.At least our modern day mobile phones would record at least 5 mins of play. This would have been supportive evidence of what happened which would have made international headlines. If i was on board, i would have quickly recorded the said maltreatment of the deportee and perhaps the argument that conspired.

Finally,the complainant is said to be British born and he was handcuffed for leading a protest. I beleive the justification for putting someone in handcuffs is if the individual is violent or is involved in criminal activities. The fact that he is British makes it worse. For me there is no justification for putting him in cuffs and if he was handcufed, this is an infringement of his rights and thus he has the right to sue the British Government for infringement of his rights as a citizen, the police for maltreatment and manhandling and the British Airways for the ban and breach.
The Human Rights community should be notified.

This is my opinion on the whole situation.
I still feel sad about the development though
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:58 AM
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Angry Please do not fly british airways!

My sincere apology if you have already received this message in any other form before now.
I am, however, advocating circulation of this e-mail among fellow Nigerians on your mailing list and also to ascertain if any one on board of the British Airways flight BA75 of 27 March 2008 Heathrow to Lagos would offer their help in our (Passion Television) investigation.
In the meantime you may also want to sign a petition on NVS to help with the pressure on BA.






Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:57:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ayo Omotade <ayo@omotade.com>
Subject: BA Ordeal
To: Amos Adejinmi <amosakinadejinmi@aol.com>


Dear sir,

This is the story you requested for.

On the 27th of March 2008 at about 12:30pm, I boarded the British Airways flight BA75 and I went straight to seat 53C.
On getting to my seat, there were noises from an individual being forcibly restrained but who was not visible because some police officers and some plain clothes people held him down. The noise continued for more than 20 minutes and I was concerned because the individual was screaming in agony and shouting in pidgin English “I go die” meaning, I will die. I pleaded with the officers not to kill him and my exact words were “please don’t kill him”. The British Airways staff said that the officers were doing their jobs and that nothing was going to happen. The noise became louder and other passengers started getting concerned and were complaining especially about their safety.

Eventually, a member of the cabin crew announced that the passenger was going to be removed and the passenger was removed from the plane and we all thought that was the end of the situation. Five minutes later, two members of the cabin crew arrived with about 4 police officers and told me to get off the plane. I asked what the matter was and they said that I was not going to travel with the airline because the cabin crew thought I had been disruptive by questioning the noise being caused by the person that was removed. I pleaded with them that I was going for my brother’s wedding and that I had all his stuff with me. I was dragged out of the plane as if I was resisting arrest. As we got to the corridor that linked the plane with the terminal building, I was slammed against the wall and made to sit on the floor. I was still pleading with them telling them that they had completely misunderstood me and that I was only complaining about the situation regarding the disturbances caused by the deportee they were trying to restrain and subdue. I was on the floor for about 20 to 25 minutes. Another passenger was brought to the corridor as well and he was also pleading with the officers.

I was later put in the back of the police van at about 1:50pm and I was locked up there for about an hour or more still handcuffed. I was formally arrested approximately 2:30pm and my rights were read to me. Before the arrest in the van, I managed to reach for my pocket and brought out my mobile phone. I made some phone calls to my wife, sister and a friend while the low battery sign was on because I was all alone and still handcuffed.

I was later driven to the police station where I was formally checked in. I was in police custody for almost 8 hours and later released on bail after the interview with the duty solicitor and the detectives. I had £473.00 on me which was seized as well as £90.00 sent to my mother in-law from my sister in-law and £1,050.00 given to me by my cousin who is a doctor for the upkeep of his parents in Nigeria . All the money together was £1,613.00. I was told that I would appear in a magistrate court to prove the money was not meant for crime or proceeds of crime. The officer told me that they will like to see traceability and that I needed my payslips and bank account detailing my payments and withdrawals as well as my cousin’s payments and withdrawals.

I was released but without the money. I made my way to terminal 4 and arrived there at about 12:30am but the British Airways kiosks were closed. I was directed to the staff room and told them that I wanted to rebook my trip to Lagos . A lady told me to give her my ticket and she stated that British Airways has banned me from travelling with them indefinitely and that only the managers can use their discretions because I was a ‘disruptive passenger’. I requested for my 2 piece luggage and she told me that the section will be opened later at about 5:30am and I will be escorted in to collect them. I slept on the chair and waited till about 5:30am and attempted to rebook my ticket but was told that British Airways refused to take me. I decided to go and pick up my stuff and I was told that my luggage were missing. I was handed a form with reference number LONBA90924. At this point, I became totally stranded because I could not leave without my luggage because it contained my brother’s wedding suit, shirts and accessories.

I was on the phone with my wife and she wanted to book an alternative flight that departs at 10:15am so that I could make it for the wedding. This was not possible because British Airways refused to disclose where my luggages were and did not remove my luggage from the flight when they called the police to arrest me.

On Monday 31st of March, I appeared at the Magistrate court but was told that a decision was made about the £1,613.00 that was seized from me. The police had been granted a further 90 days to hold on to the money pending their investigation. I was given the officer’s details as DC Webster 0208 721 9141. He requested 12 months bank statements and 6 months payslip to prove that the £473.00 that belongs to me was not proceeds of crime and also requested that the £1,050.00 that was given to me by my cousin for his parents should also be traced to my cousin’s 12 months bank statement and 6 months payslip. DC Webster has promised to write me detailing these requests.

Still on Monday 31st of March 4 days after I was taken off the plane, I made extra efforts to find out the whereabouts of my 2 piece luggage (LONBA90924), because they have not been sent to my address as promised by calling the lost baggage section at 13:44hrs and spoke to a man called Neil who said that, it is difficult for them to trace my bags and that there is a strong possibility that they might be in Lagos. He suggested that I should call back in 24 hours.

My bags were returned on Friday 4th of April. One week and one day after the incident. One of the bags was destroyed and the other was intact. I have wriiten to British Airways to complain and ask fro my refund but I have not received anything from them yet.

I will not want to believe that the authorities involved in the situation deliberately or cleverly punished me unnecessarily out of frustration for not being able to restrain or subdue a deportee or that I as a fee paying passenger was accused of affray with violence when I was voicing my concerns about the disturbances caused by the deportees. I never mentioned any abusive or swear words neither was I physically threatening anyone. My luggage mysteriously was lost and I have been banned on all British Airways flights without a chance to say my part of the story to redeem myself. 200 passengers were asked to leave the flight because they expressed displeasure regarding the disturbances caused by the deportees and the officers trying to restrain him. My ticket was even refused to be endorsed by BA to enable me to fly with another airline. I need full compensation of my loss and also a letter of apology from British Airways.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:47 PM
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Na wah O! And to think of all the money BA has made from Nigerians!!!
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:05 PM
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Nawah oh British Airways abi because Virgin Naija is killing dem...dem dey vex? abeg make dem carry go jo....they are on my do not fly list next to KLM!

Nonsense and Mama Ibeji's left Breast! Ptewww
Funny you mentioned KLM. When my brother was travelling about 3wks ago, we ran into traffic but still managed to get there 80 min before the departure time. There were three people left to be processed, my brother and two caucassian persons. The oyibo people were busy sorting something out and he didn't want to jump infront of them. Eventually they approached the counter to get processed. Once they were done, they were told to hurry up and if they miss the plane they will have to pay a difference of $200 to catch the next one which is on sunday. When my brother approached the counter, the guy that was there started to process him. All of a sudden this two lady ordered him to stop processing my bro and they refused to let him go. To now make matter worse, they told him he would have to pay for a new ticket and not the same $200 deal they gave the oyibo people. My brother was furious wanting to know why the other people got a better treatment. He now requested to speak with a manager which even took us another hr and half.

I don't blame them anyway. If we hadn't messed up naija airlines all these wouldn't be happening.
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This is my opinion...like it or lump it!

So you think it is ok for someone to lead a protest on an aircraft of all places, post 9-11 and to be able to get away scot free?

What Mr.Omotade did was wrong and i feel that the Nigerians intent on protesting the BA are only succeeding in making us look like a bigger group of ignoramuses than we are thought to be already.

A court executed deportation order was taking place. The Deportee obviously refused to leave the country with a bit of dignity and chose to make a scene, screaming ‘I go die’, which means, ‘I will die!’ as in ‘I will die if I am taken back to Nigeria!’

Mr Omotade aka Mr Over-Sabi, bigged up his chest and went to go and face the immigration officials…note: immigration officials as BA staff would not have been handling the Deportee. Did he really think that he could stop such an order? Things got out of hand with Mr Over-Sabi getting his fellow passengers riled up and so the immigration officials left and reported him to the police. Police come to get their man and apparently he refuses to go quietly. Several more passengers get involved.

International flight rules are very clear and followed to a T by those in the aviation industry. There is a zero tolerance when it comes to assaults on airline staff and assaults are not only defined as physical. Raising your voice or issuing threats against an airline official is also deemed to be an assault. Had this taken place in the US Mr Over-Sabi would have probably been tasered and sent down for at least a year!

After the Police leave with Mr.Over-Sabi, the Pilot feels that it would be wise for those individuals who got involved in the arrest to be removed so that they can calm down. Apparently if the ruckus starts up again in mid-flight then it is possible that the Pilot ( i hear that he is a Nigerian) could lose his license. None of the BA staff (some Nigerians)are sure who exactly took part and so the Pilot makes the decision to clear the economy flight (not all are Nigerians). The plane finally jets of with first and business class passengers (Nigerians) and the deportee with his escorts.

Now the long and short end of it is that if Mr Over-Sabi had sat his a$$ down in his seat and endured the noise he would have made it to his brother’s wedding on time. Instead he is playing victim when he is really brought this all on himself.

BA is not the only airline in the world that transfers Deportees and they so happen to be legally obligated by UK law to do so. It is not their fault if a Deportee decides to make a scene. What did Mr Over-Sabi want them to do? Sedate the Deportee, gag him and put a bag over his head like the Spanish did to one who choked to death on the Spanish flight a year or so ago? If Mr Over-Sabi had wanted peace and quiet on his flight then he should have forked out for first class. Simple!

Notice how he doesn’t mention anything about the state of the Deportee over than the fact that he was making noise on the plane. And people are still making out like he is an upstanding citizen who stopped his fellow Nigerian from being pummelled to death, when really if that were the case I am sure he would mentioned it in his transcript . . . if only to gain even more sympathy for himself. If he had really been concerned about the Deportee then he should have offered the chap assistance once they reached Nigeria instead of doing over-sabi a the plane of all places!
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I will not be signing a petition and I will continue to use BA to Nigeria as long as they continue to operate on those routes.

Many innocent Nigerians have died at the hands of the Nigerian aviation authority which is considers Nigerian life cheap. They constantly allow planes that have been condemned by other countries to operate in our airspace and this has resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent Nigerians. One of the most horrific one that comes to mind is the plane that was carrying school children which killed all on board.

Wouldn't it be great if a protest against the Nigerian aviation authority was initiated before any protest against BA because of Mr Over-Sabi?
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What we need to do is stop flying BA. Let's get them where it hurts the most. If Nigerians will make a concious decision to shun their airline and patronise VN (whose sevice I hear is fantastic) then they'll learn to treat us well.

I have always maintained that the service we get from the likes of BA, and sometimes VA is rubbish compared to the service they provide to other parts of the world. And yet it is a known and documented fact that they make more money from the Nigerian route alone than any of their other routes.

We should not just be angry at this, but also make sure we shun BA, tell out friends to shun them, and inform those in Nigeria to shun them. Let's make them pay for what they've done and in so doing get them to afford us a proper service as they do elsewhere and also reduce their prices.

What I will really like to see is the Nigerian govt banning BA from Nigeria and getting VN to operate BA's current allocation in addition to the one they already have.

We can do this, let's do it folks, not just talk about it. I personally don't fly BA anymore... I haven't now for over 10 years and don't intend to until they change.
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I will not be signing a petition and I will continue to use BA to Nigeria as long as they continue to operate on those routes.
Many innocent Nigerians have died at the hands of the Nigerian aviation authority which is considers Nigerian life cheap. They constantly allow planes that have been condemned by other countries to operate in our airspace and this has resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent Nigerians. One of the most horrific one that comes to mind is the plane that was carrying school children which killed all on board.

Wouldn't it be great if a protest against the Nigerian aviation authority was initiated before any protest against BA because of Mr Over-Sabi?

Did any1 force you to sign any petition ????? You are free to fly BA as many times as you like!!
Why don't you start a thread stipulating a protest against Nigeria aviation ???? After all you are just a little drop of water in a mighty ocean!!!
You are so free to act as the door mat of some bunch of racists. Colonisation left lots of people with veil, can’t believe people are so dehumanised that they have no feeling for dier fellow county just to look sophisticated or accepted in the society.
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