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See my reply below.
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04-21-2008, 04:56 AM
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The people commenting on this topic are the ones I respect most on Naijarules.
I can judge humans by what they are most concerned about.
A post on Genevieve will attract hundreds of online hounds and thousands of replies.
A post on fishy private parts will attract hundreds of viewers within hours.
A post on sex will attract thousands of respondents.
But a post on the existential nightmares of Zimbabweans or Nigerians has only attracted less than 200 viewers and some replies.
This clearly shows the low 1Q of most of the members of Nigerian Forums.
The post on Zimbabwe on the Huffington Post attracted thousands and 99% of them were not Africans.
I have addressed the manic depressive insanity of President Robert Mugabe in my new book Bye, Bye Mugabe and the following narrative is from it.
Ma ulemali eningi besuhlupa abantu uzotholani
ngalokho, Uzophelelaphi wo Uzophelelaphi
Kuzvirova dundundu
Tozvinzwa kuti ndisu tiri pano
Magumo acho chii?
Tingazvirova matundundu
Kushambadza kuti tiri apo
Magumo acho chii?
Todadira vamwe, kutsvinya
Kuvaona sevasi vanhu
Magumo acho chii?
Kusatya Mwari
Mhedzisiro yacho chii?
Magumo acho chii?
Ungangodaro une simba, simba rakawanda
Ukadzvanya akaota
Magumo acho chii?
Ma ulamandla amakhulu besuhlupa abantu
uzotholani ngalokho
Ugodaro une mari, mari yakawanda
Ukadzvanya akaota
Magumo acho chii?
Ma ulemali eningi besuhlupa abantu
uzotholani ngalokho
Kudadira vamwe, kutsvinya
Kuona sevasi vanhu
Magumo acho chii?
You beat your chest
Feeling all your importance
How will it all end?
You may beat your chest
Screaming that you're important
How will it all end?
You look down upon others, despising,
As if they are not human beings
How will it all end?
You don't respect God
What will be the end?
How will it all end?
You may have power, much power,
And you oppress those who are weak
How will it all end?
You may have money, much money,
And you oppress those who are weak.
How will it all end?
It was as if they were blaming Mugabe for their predicament.
Most of the young people were gone. Millions were hustling for survival in Bulawayo and Highfield and millions of others were in self-exile in South Africa and other neighbouring countries. Only the aged were left. But most of the old folk were widows. My mother and her friend were among the oldest widows in the village.
I dug the grave furiously because I wanted to get it over with and leave. Nkosi and I had an appointment with a cab driver named Fungai in Bulawayo who had agreed to drive us to the Limpopo waterside. Then we would join others taking boats across the river and trek across the border into South Africa. So, we did not wait to witness them say, "Azorora" over Mbira's grave. We had witnessed many deaths already. Over four thousand people were dying weekly in Zimbabwe and most of them were innocent children.
The night before our departure, I saw President Mugabe in a dream. We were in a large waiting room, but I did not know what we were waiting for. We all sat on long wooden benches in a single row. Mugabe was there with a young girl who looked like his daughter. He was sitting on a wooden bench like everyone else. Then, after a while, he and the girl stood up and walked to the other end of the room. Some minutes later, Mugabe returned with the girl, but other people had taken their seats and there were no spare seats left. Since he was an elderly man, I got up and offered him my seat. He looked at me with gratitude, sat down quietly, and motioned to the girl to sit on his lap. He looked younger than his age. I found it hard to believe he was 83 years old.
“You do not look old. You look at least twenty years younger,” I remarked in a complimentary tone.
Mugabe smiled.
I wanted to ask him the secret of his longevity and vigour just then I woke up to use the toilet.
I did not tell Nkosi about this particular dream.
I was worried about Uncle Bob. I looked at the black and white photograph of him with his raised right hand, fist clenched in the revolutionary Black Power salute with big Joshua Nkomo standing by his side, smiling happily. The unforgettable memories of the Second Chimurenga when ZANLA and ZIPRA became the double-edged sword of our liberation struggle always flashed across my mind. I missed those good old days after our victory over Smith. When the late Bob Marley came to perform his hit song Zimbabwe to celebrate our independence it echoed all over Africa. The magnificent parades, colourful festoons, and fireworks made that day one of the best days of my youth. What happened to Mugabe?
When Sally, the first lady died on that fateful Monday of January 27, 1992, Mugabe became melancholic and when he married Grace in 1996, he became worse.
My fellow blogger, Jacob Holdt even said:
“Sally was incredibly popular, but after her death, Mugabe turned into a despotic and homophobic direction. Today I am glad that my son is not called Mugabe.”
The death of his beloved Sally must have done terrible things to his psyche. Sally was the heart and soul of Mugabe. A Mugabe without Sally made a depressed old man without a soul.
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04-21-2008, 05:53 AM
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Personally, i dont have any problems with Mugabe redistributing the land to black zimbabweans, infact i'm all for it. What i'm against is how he went about it, he was only concerned with taking the land from the white land owners there was no plan as to how the land would be redistributed to qualified farmers who would know what to with this land. Like Kikis said he let his hatred and passion rule him rather than strategic, logical thinking. He should have let younger more progressive thinking people guide the process rather than listening to old men like him.
I think he should leave because he has no ideas as to how to proceed from here and quite frankly he has been president for too long. However, I dont think Tsvangirai is the best person to take over, because the west is obviously foisting him on Zimbabweans making him look like the best thing since sliced. Experience and history has taught us never to trust the west and thier agents. Especially their media, which is nothing more than propaganda machinery and mind-control media
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04-21-2008, 10:02 AM
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But...
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Don't condemn naijarulers just yet.The thread is still young.
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Just post a new thread on Genevieve Nnaji or Sex in Nollywood and see how they will rush for it like scarce bread in Zimbabwe.
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The post on Zimbabwe on the Huffington Post attracted thousands and 99% of them were not Africans.
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Aside of the fact that traffic influences this, I'm sure you're not thinking the interest on Huffington Post is anything more than the usual morbid "which is the next country sending itself to hell in Africa" type...
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Just post a new thread on Genevieve Nnaji or Sex in Nollywood and see how they will rush for it like scarce bread in Zimbabwe. 
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Let us not forget that this is primarily a movie website. Therefore, it can be implied that most peeps are more interested in Nollywood related threads than other issues, and Genny Nollywood star.
Will come back and respond to the other posts later.
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Just post a new thread on Genevieve Nnaji or Sex in Nollywood and see how they will rush for it like scarce bread in Zimbabwe. 
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That, unfortunately, is not different from the public at large. That is the main reason Britany Spears is on the American news more than Darfur...
However that being said, the Obama thread is long and stong...
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That, unfortunately, is not different from the public at large. That is the main reason Britany Spears is on the American news more than Darfur...
However that being said, the Obama thread is long and stong...
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I think Mugabe is a senile old fool who should give it a rest! His people are clearly suffering but all he seems to be concerned about is getting one over on the white people. In the meantime the whole country is being destroyed.
Now if he was a really clever and strong politician, I am sure that some amicable arrangement could have been made with the white farmers, which still would have allowed a reasonable amount of land to be given to the war veterans. Throwing them out without a thought for the following devastating consequences that have reduced Zimbabwe to pits and the majority of Zimbabweans to paupers is a crying shame has only exposed him for the idiot he is!
I think that if he refuses to go with dignity then someone should start a revolution (much like Nigeria needs) and in the process, assassinate him!
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US seeks to block Zimbabwe-bound Chinese arms
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is intervening with governments in southern Africa to prevent a Chinese ship carrying weapons for Zimbabwe's security forces from unloading its cargo, The Associated Press has learned.
At the same time, the State Department's top Africa hand, Jendayi Frazer, plans to visit the region this week to underscore U.S. concerns about the shipment. Frazer also will try to persuade Zimbabwe's neighbors to step up pressure on President Robert Mugabe's government to publish results from a disputed election that the opposition claims to have won, administration officials said Monday.
U.S. intelligence agencies are tracking the vessel, the An Yue Jiang, and American diplomats have been instructed to press authorities in at least four nations — South Africa, Mozambique, Namibia and Angola — not to allow it to dock, the officials told The Associated Press. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss delicate diplomatic talks.
The ship, which is laden with large amounts of weapons and ammunition, already has been turned away from South Africa and Mozambique, and is now believed to be headed for Angola, possibly with a refueling stop in Namibia. The freighter left South Africa after a judge on Friday barred the arms from transiting South Africa and it was not immediately clear if U.S. lobbying had influenced authorities in Mozambique who stopped it from docking over the weekend.
Two officials said Washington's effort to block the ship from unloading its cargo was now concentrated on Namibia and Angola and that both countries were being told that allowing the An Yue Jiang to dock could harm their relations with the United States.
There are fears that the arms, which include mortar grenades and bullets, could be used by Mugabe's regime to expand a clampdown on opposition supporters. The government has refused to publish the results of presidential elections held three weeks ago, and there are reports of increasing violence against the opposition.
South Africa's main trade union confederation has called on workers in other African countries to follow the example of South African dock and freight workers who said Friday they would not unload the ship or transport its cargo.
The State Department endorsed that position on Monday.
"Given Zimbabwe's current electoral crisis, we do share the concerns ... that these arms could be used against individuals who are merely trying to freely express their political will," said Kurtis Cooper, a department spokesman.
"We call on the Zimbabwe government to immediately cease the perpetration of brutal acts against its citizens and strongly urge the regional leadership to enhance its intervention for an expeditious solution to the postelection crisis," Cooper said.
The comments, prepared ahead of an expected announcement that Frazer will travel to southern Africa, come as the Bush administration has grown increasingly impatient with Mugabe — whose recent rule Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice last week called "an abomination" — and with Zimbabwe's neighbors for not taking a harder line against the octogenarian leader.
The 14-nation Southern African Development Community, known as SADC, has been unwilling to take the tough stand on Zimbabwe as called for by western countries, notably Britain and the United States.
Part of Frazer's planned trip is aimed at rallying support for action from SADC members, whose leaders met in a mid-April summit on Zimbabwe but could agree only on a weak declaration that failed to criticize the absent Mugabe, officials said.
US seeks to block Zimbabwe-bound Chinese arms - Yahoo! News
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04-24-2008, 08:33 AM
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US seeks to block Zimbabwe-bound Chinese arms
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is intervening with governments in southern Africa to prevent a Chinese ship carrying weapons for Zimbabwe's security forces from unloading its cargo, The Associated Press has learned.
At the same time, the State Department's top Africa hand, Jendayi Frazer, plans to visit the region this week to underscore U.S. concerns about the shipment. Frazer also will try to persuade Zimbabwe's neighbors to step up pressure on President Robert Mugabe's government to publish results from a disputed election that the opposition claims to have won, administration officials said Monday.
U.S. intelligence agencies are tracking the vessel, the An Yue Jiang, and American diplomats have been instructed to press authorities in at least four nations — South Africa, Mozambique, Namibia and Angola — not to allow it to dock, the officials told The Associated Press. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss delicate diplomatic talks.
The ship, which is laden with large amounts of weapons and ammunition, already has been turned away from South Africa and Mozambique, and is now believed to be headed for Angola, possibly with a refueling stop in Namibia. The freighter left South Africa after a judge on Friday barred the arms from transiting South Africa and it was not immediately clear if U.S. lobbying had influenced authorities in Mozambique who stopped it from docking over the weekend.
Two officials said Washington's effort to block the ship from unloading its cargo was now concentrated on Namibia and Angola and that both countries were being told that allowing the An Yue Jiang to dock could harm their relations with the United States.
There are fears that the arms, which include mortar grenades and bullets, could be used by Mugabe's regime to expand a clampdown on opposition supporters. The government has refused to publish the results of presidential elections held three weeks ago, and there are reports of increasing violence against the opposition.
South Africa's main trade union confederation has called on workers in other African countries to follow the example of South African dock and freight workers who said Friday they would not unload the ship or transport its cargo.
The State Department endorsed that position on Monday.
"Given Zimbabwe's current electoral crisis, we do share the concerns ... that these arms could be used against individuals who are merely trying to freely express their political will," said Kurtis Cooper, a department spokesman.
"We call on the Zimbabwe government to immediately cease the perpetration of brutal acts against its citizens and strongly urge the regional leadership to enhance its intervention for an expeditious solution to the postelection crisis," Cooper said.
The comments, prepared ahead of an expected announcement that Frazer will travel to southern Africa, come as the Bush administration has grown increasingly impatient with Mugabe — whose recent rule Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice last week called "an abomination" — and with Zimbabwe's neighbors for not taking a harder line against the octogenarian leader.
The 14-nation Southern African Development Community, known as SADC, has been unwilling to take the tough stand on Zimbabwe as called for by western countries, notably Britain and the United States.
Part of Frazer's planned trip is aimed at rallying support for action from SADC members, whose leaders met in a mid-April summit on Zimbabwe but could agree only on a weak declaration that failed to criticize the absent Mugabe, officials said.
US seeks to block Zimbabwe-bound Chinese arms - Yahoo! News
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Why have they failed to stop the shipment of Chinese arms to Sudan and continue to dine and wine with China while Chinese arms are being used to worsen the Darfur Conflict?
American hyspocrisy is annoying!
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