Originally Posted by sidney

Agreeing to disagree is fine if that's what occurred.. Instead, you accused me of saying since I don't think they are the same, that then the gay right is less than racial rights.... I never did that...

Rights are rights.. But some rights are tougher to obtain than others. And the fight for some was much tougher and more vigorous fought and from a position of surbordination.

Originally Posted by Obariba

..and Im saying regardless of the ease or difficulty in overcoming or securing a human right the question of equality is paramount.

They all fall under EQUAL RIGHTS !!!

Many gay people Im sure would rather not interact with a Black person and many WHITE AND BLACK people may not want to interact with a Gay person.

Seems like in todays world the homosexuals have it worse ...than any Negro had it back in the day.

Originally Posted by funmo

Sigh!!

Now you are pushing it dearie. Trying to minimise the horrible experience of black people so that you can push the agenda of your gay best friend get as e be o. I bow for that your reasoning.

Originally Posted by Obariba

Well Funmo ..these days some negros get on my nerves than my gay hairdresser .... sigh !!

How about that for pushing it !!!

Originally Posted by funmo

You have a feisty reputation, so I am not surprised by your reply. Actually, I am with Sidney on this one. Its apples and oranges, comparing gay rights to racial rights. And your argument trying to dispute it, na real wah. Alright sweety, bite me!!

Originally Posted by Obariba

oh my gosh the most terrible thing that happened in the world was when Blacks in a first world country couldnt sit on the same seats or use the same toilets as whites in a first world country ...that was the worst human rights violations ever perpetuated on mankind ....No other cause should dare be compared to those atrocities !!!

Oh sigh ...oh good grief ...oh whatever !!

Originally Posted by funmo

You are going to reduce the issues about race in America to the inability to sit in front of the bus, or to drink from the same water fountain? Girrrrrrrrl!! You leave me speechless really. But there is absolutely no point arguing with you. You tend to stick stubbornly to your point, even when you don't have any.

Ciao.

Originally Posted by takestyle

well, for example, recent findings are suggesting that Abraham Lincoln enjoyed a longterm... ah, "intimate friendship" with a man.

Discovery Channel :: News :: Book: Abraham Lincoln Was Gay

and i don't believe he was the only one, either.

Originally Posted by Hubscrown

Sidney take it easy... you turning the whole thing into an insult just because someone has a different view oppose to your equal right qualifications... You don't have to be this condescending to make your point. Yes we know it, you are smart and your logical reasoning is at the highest peak but try to use same logical reason to find a reasonable tone to address other people without degrading them.
Hide your race or not... comparing race with sexual orientation or not... The point is, its a worthless argument to try and discredit their reason to get married. They want to get married let them go ahead, as long as they keep their affection inside their house.
Maybe you got some internalized homophobic, that I don't know. But it let be.

This is not the first gay marriage announcement anyway... Vermont, Massachusetts and some other States were already granting the gay marriage.

Originally Posted by KikisMuffin

Jesus!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Obariba

In other words if black men where able to bleach their skin white(with some newly invented Black to white cream) then the law stating black people should sit at the back of the bus should have continued. Right ?

Once upon a time blacks had to sit at the back of a school bus ...once upon a time a gay man had to stay single and sad for the rest of his life !

The white man did not feel the black man was worthy of a seat of his choice.The white and black man did not think the gay man was worthy of a mutual partner of his choice.

The oppressor always feels superior and will always find a believable reason to continue oppression !

Hubs is right you can hide ur race. It was featured in Ebony magazine.
South Africa ended Apartheid.Gay men can now wed in South Africa. It seems like South Africa gets it.

Pride and superiority must be put aside when passing law.Months ago I saw this ongoing California supreme court argument on Cspan and I observed the female judges were so cordial and infact kept making references to comments by responding 'u dont know how Im going to rule"! I knew they would overturn the ban. Everywoman who has sat in a makeup artist chair and had a gay man apply her makeup or talk to her understands one thing their sexuality does not make them a bad person.The ones I have encountered are kind sweet understanding ...why shouldnt they marry.Let them join the rest of us that have to stay with one partner till thy kingdom come...if dem wan follow wear husband and husband asoebi ...by all means allow them. They are part of society and to me the sooner society allows them to love and marry the better. The downlow phenomena is getting worse due to the shame.Innocent women end up with men who prefer men but are afraid.They pay taxes therefore they should have access to government issued marriage licenses.
My conclusion White is not superior to Black.Black and White are not superior to Homos.