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@ Funmi baby, and we should keep perpetuating that culture ehn??? Or using it as an excuse for behaviours like this???
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why is it that people ignore the "handle what's in your backyard first" bit?
all i'm saying is that the boy's got a point. everybody's doing it so why is he the poster child??? if it's so wrong, start by telling the people you know that have multiple baby mamas and thus babies, to quit it. speak out when everyone else is doing it not when your singers/entertainers do it and then shut your eye every other day. everyone talking now, where were they before?
I laugh when akon goes abroad and talks outta his mouth and people start getting all pissy abourrit when we know it's true the things he says, when we all know we grew up and the young ones are still growing up with these things that are the norms in our society.
i feel the brother. so sue me. the problem is not tuface, it's so beyond him.
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07-23-2008, 10:51 AM
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why is it that people ignore the "handle what's in your backyard first" bit?
all i'm saying is that the boy's got a point. everybody's doing it so why is he the poster child??? if it's so wrong, start by telling the people you know that have multiple baby mamas and thus babies, to quit it. speak out when everyone else is doing it not when your singers/entertainers do it and then shut your eye every other day. everyone talking now, where were they before?
I laugh when akon goes abroad and talks outta his mouth and people start getting all pissy abourrit when we know it's true the things he says, when we all know we grew up and the young ones are still growing up with these things that are the norms in our society.
i feel the brother. so sue me. the problem is not tuface, it's so beyond him.
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It's not beyond Tuface. It is WITH Tuface. It is his responsibilty to use protection. It is not MKO's, it is not mine, it is not FunmiBaby's and society will not put the condom on him for him before he nacks. Haba.
If you had a child that you knew had potential but was failing in school, would you say that it was okay because all his friends were failing also. No. You would make sure that he knows that he should work harder. Do what you know he can do to improve and not dare come home with another bad report card.
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07-23-2008, 10:58 AM
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I hope he acts on his regrets and changes. God will guide him.
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Originally Posted by Funmibaby
why is it that people ignore the "handle what's in your backyard first" bit?
all i'm saying is that the boy's got a point. everybody's doing it so why is he the poster child??? if it's so wrong, start by telling the people you know that have multiple baby mamas and thus babies, to quit it. speak out when everyone else is doing it not when your singers/entertainers do it and then shut your eye every other day. everyone talking now, where were they before?
I laugh when akon goes abroad and talks outta his mouth and people start getting all pissy abourrit when we know it's true the things he says, when we all know we grew up and the young ones are still growing up with these things that are the norms in our society.
i feel the brother. so sue me. the problem is not tuface, it's so beyond him.
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I don't think anything is beyond what you can make a right choice about,
2 Face is inexcusable under this circumstance.
Handle what's in our backyard? ... Right now 2 Face is in my backyard and I'm trying to handle his case with the little I can contribute (and that is to speak up.) MKO and his oldie types were in my father and his oldie types' backyard, and they spoke nothing against their actions, that is why people like 2 face think they can borrow a leaf from them.
Hell no!... 2 Face is wrong!.. wrong!! ... wrong!!!
Like I said before, he better check himself before he wreck himself.
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07-23-2008, 11:02 AM
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why is it that people ignore the "handle what's in your backyard first" bit?
all i'm saying is that the boy's got a point. everybody's doing it so why is he the poster child??? if it's so wrong, start by telling the people you know that have multiple baby mamas and thus babies, to quit it. speak out when everyone else is doing it not when your singers/entertainers do it and then shut your eye every other day. everyone talking now, where were they before?
I laugh when akon goes abroad and talks outta his mouth and people start getting all pissy abourrit when we know it's true the things he says, when we all know we grew up and the young ones are still growing up with these things that are the norms in our society.
i feel the brother. so sue me. the problem is not tuface, it's so beyond him.
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Funmi, how do you start to change a society? One at a time. So is Bill Cosby and Barack Obama off base for critizing dead beat fathers? Or they should allow them since those very dead beat dad grew up in fatherless? It is societal? No need to take responsibilty because others are doing it?
I'll slam my brother, my uncle, my friend, or anyone else who continually excerises poor judgement. Just because he is a celebrity does not make him exonerated from the ridicule I would heap on my brother or relative if they made the same mistakes.
It is actually the fact that he is a celebrity and that you like him that makes you remotely defending him here on NR. I don't see you defending ex NBA player Shawn Kemp... 11 children from 9 women. Or others like him hanging out on every street corner in the world.
Suppose he started beating his women. Is that ok? With your logic it should be acceptable if it can be proven that other men, within the Nigerian society, beat their women as well.. So it won't be only Tuface's fault.. It's society....
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07-23-2008, 11:04 AM
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I love ya sweetie but this is nonesense right here.... Just because others do the same stuff does not mean we should simply accept it and exonerate Tuface.
Bottom line, he was irresponsible! Simple. Forget the actual children born, imagine the amount of times he had unprotected sex without a pregnancy!! I shudder to think. It is a "Dr. Phil" excuse to point at other people and say "Hey it's not my fault, look at other people".... MKO was roasted as well. I didn't hear you coming to his defense. And he lived in a time before HIV!!!
Tuface cannot run away from the fact that he excericed poor judgment. Unless it was his intention to impregnate every woman he did. Then it was his choice and not mistakes. In which case he should simply state, I wanted each of those girls to get pregnant. He did not. Ergo, each pregnancy was "unintented". Yet, one after another, he continued to practice unprotected sex.
That is poor judgment to me. He is simply dealing with the consequences of his "unintended" actions and trying to make it seem like it's all good...
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07-23-2008, 11:25 AM
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I just have one question, GOD FORBID, but if he contracts HIV/AIDS, then we should blame society?
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I love ya sweetie but this is nonesense right here.... Just because others do the same stuff does not mean we should simply accept it and exonerate Tuface.
Bottom line, he was irresponsible! Simple. Forget the actual children born, imagine the amount of times he had unprotected sex without a pregnancy!! I shudder to think. It is a "Dr. Phil" excuse to point at other people and say "Hey it's not my fault, look at other people".... MKO was roasted as well. I didn't hear you coming to his defense. And he lived in a time before HIV!!!
Tuface cannot run away from the fact that he excericed poor judgment. Unless it was his intention to impregnate every woman he did. Then it was his choice and not mistakes. In which case he should simply state, I wanted each of those girls to get pregnant. He did not. Ergo, each pregnancy was "unintented". Yet, one after another, he continued to practice unprotected sex.
That is poor judgment to me. He is simply dealing with the consequences of his "unintended" actions and trying to make it seem like it's all good...
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Funmi, how do you start to change a society? One at a time. So is Bill Cosby and Barack Obama off base for critizing dead beat fathers? Or they should allow them since those very dead beat dad grew up in fatherless? It is societal? No need to take responsibilty because others are doing it?
I'll slam my brother, my uncle, my friend, or anyone else who continually excerises poor judgement. Just because he is a celebrity does not make him exonerated from the ridicule I would heap on my brother or relative if they made the same mistakes.
It is actually the fact that he is a celebrity and that you like him that makes you remotely defending him here on NR. I don't see you defending ex NBA player Shawn Kemp... 11 children from 9 women. Or others like him hanging out on every street corner in the world.
Suppose he started beating his women. Is that ok? With your logic it should be acceptable if it can be proven that other men, within the Nigerian society, beat their women as well.. So it won't be only Tuface's fault.. It's society....
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07-23-2008, 11:37 AM
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I just have one question, GOD FORBID, but if he contracts HIV/AIDS, then we should blame society?
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07-23-2008, 11:45 AM
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Funmi, how do you start to change a society? One at a time. So is Bill Cosby and Barack Obama off base for critizing dead beat fathers? Or they should allow them since those very dead beat dad grew up in fatherless? It is societal? No need to take responsibilty because others are doing it?
I'll slam my brother, my uncle, my friend, or anyone else who continually excerises poor judgement. Just because he is a celebrity does not make him exonerated from the ridicule I would heap on my brother or relative if they made the same mistakes.
It is actually the fact that he is a celebrity and that you like him that makes you remotely defending him here on NR. I don't see you defending ex NBA player Shawn Kemp... 11 children from 9 women. Or others like him hanging out on every street corner in the world.
Suppose he started beating his women. Is that ok? With your logic it should be acceptable if it can be proven that other men, within the Nigerian society, beat their women as well.. So it won't be only Tuface's fault.. It's society....

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whoa nelly!
again.........ALL i've been saying since is that i think you start to change a society by starting in your very own home, your own backyard, your own street, your own local government. and i meant that literally. Tuface is NOT in anyone's backyard (as far as i know anyway). how can i start to bash tuface when i know my own uncle has many children from several women and he's not alone. i haven't even affected my own immediate environment, how can I come on here and start talking about Tuface is wrong this, Tuface is wrong that. Come on, we all know brothers, uncles, cousins, mama's cousin, neighbour, maiguard even, that has several kids by several women.
Look what is it that peeps are up in arms with Tuface about?
that he is not marrying these women?
that he's not using a condom?
If he married them all tomorrow in a mass ceremony, and continued shagging whomever, however, do we now become contented? we'll all be happy and move on.
I said governor of a whole state o, banned condoms. CONDOMS. and it didn't even make the newspapers. and men having sex with various women is not strange in this our society, it's not odd.
read that again. so what exactly are we tying a noose around tuface's neck for?
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Sid - I would never criticize Shawn Kemp on the other hand either, especially if he was nigerian or lived in nigeria. sorry. Also, I've heard it said, tuface believes whom he loves and how they decide to have and keep their children is nobody's business. Pero and Annie and Tuface have history together. One of them has even fought her own family to be with him. Okay, if they say the child was intentional, you would be fine then?
Sifu - i read your analogy like this. your child is getting bad grades, but down the street is your streetmate's child who's the star basketball player, he's also getting bad grades. you decide to carry placard that that child should be beaten in a public square, what rubbish. meanwhile your child is also getting bad grades o. that doesn't make sense to me. sorry. i won't carry your placard with you.
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I said governor of a whole state o, banned condoms. CONDOMS. and it didn't even make the newspapers.
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It did actually. It was all over the web and discussed on NIA. They published a retraction shortly after, saying the Gov was misunderstood. It is even posted on their website.
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Is it sex without a condom that's worrying everyone?
your father, brother, uncle, cousin, domestic staff, gateman, teacher, boss, colleague, neighbour...............a great percentage of them, in Nigeria oh, are not having sex with a condom, and what's more, are not having sex with one person.
Fix. Them.
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It did actually. It was all over the web and discussed on NIA. They published a retraction shortly after, saying the Gov was misunderstood. It is even posted on their website.
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it made the web. it was discussed on NIA. governor was misunderstood. but governor really did speak against condoms.
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whoa nelly!
again.........ALL i've been saying since is that i think you start to change a society by starting in your very own home, your own backyard, your own street, your own local government. and i meant that literally. Tuface is NOT in anyone's backyard (as far as i know anyway). how can i start to bash tuface when i know my own uncle has many children from several women and he's not alone. i haven't even affected my own immediate environment, how can I come on here and start talking about Tuface is wrong this, Tuface is wrong that. Come on, we all know brothers, uncles, cousins, mama's cousin, neighbour, maiguard even, that has several kids by several women.
Look what is it that peeps are up in arms with Tuface about?
that he is not marrying these women?
that he's not using a condom?
If he married them all tomorrow in a mass ceremony, and continued shagging whomever, however, do we now become contented? we'll all be happy and move on.
I said governor of a whole state o, banned condoms. CONDOMS. and it didn't even make the newspapers. and men having sex with various women is not strange in this our society, it's not odd.
read that again. so what exactly are we tying a noose around tuface's neck for?
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you do have a point at the bolded...i wish an NGO or somebody will take that anambara state governor to task and let the world know that banning condoms is a very stupid (sorry, but i can't think of a much stronger word) thing and decision.
but funmibaby, in a way, whether he likes it or not, tuface is now a celebrity and in the public eye and a lot of kids, i suspect, are looking up to him.
as much as we would like to clean up our backyard, start with the man in the mirror, to make a change, we must also take a hard look at the people influencing our kids, and tuface is one of those.
popping out kids as if they were candy, is not a very good picture to paint of himself. the younger generation is looking at him.
oh well...i will continue talking to my younger brothers and cousins, as well as my son when he comes of age, let them know what i think is right or wrong.
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Like no other star ever came before him huh?
What if they all decide to go on a baby making spree (and that from different mothers o!)
What about what these kids have to go through in life (especially this age where you have half brothers and step sisters becoming enemies.)
This dude better put his libido in check, before he wrecks himself.
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u really do have a point which I respect but arent we supposed 2 also look at these women involved in bearing his kids? Mean Pedro and co... every woman knows wat 2 do if she doesnt want a man. I blame it on stardom because no matter how handsome of a man one is, three women wont be willing 2 bear his kids expect there is finance 2 back it up. We should be happy he'd cater for them... trust me, they are lots of nuclear family with lots of problem just as the extended
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