The black man can be so full of shyt sometimes, it's depressing. Let's cut the crap. A lot of these ppl shouting and screaming aren't slaves themselves, they've never experienced the hard and back-breaking labour, torture and and inhumane treatement associated with the slavery of their forefathers. They rock sneakers and fubus, refuse to go to school, sell crack, smoke weed and get high, are free to listen to rap [which they now use to call their women 'bitches', themselves 'pimps and players', and 'niggers', WITH IMPUNITY!], they're fouth/fifth generation descendants of slaves in a country where they now have more opportunities and wield more political power and social influence [through their music and warped culture, on the world at large] than any other minority group, be it asian, hispanic or even africans [combined], YET THEY COMPLAIN THE LOUDEST ABOUT VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING! and are best at blaming others for their misfortunes.

And still, they have the guts to throw around an epithet like 'nigger', in jest, and in reference to one another, with impunity, and then try to play the moral minority against the white majority for using the same word against them, even if out of context, in THE WHITEMAN'S OWN LAND?? Only the blackman can be that arrogant and bold. People seem to forget that, the blacks didn't win their freedom from slavery all by themselves, that they couldn't have done it without the help, yes, help, of the same whitemen that they despise so much. Unlike the other races, or minorities in this country, who don't necessarily view the whiteman as an enemy, but as the 'devil' they have to deal/work with as amicably, wisely, diplomatically and tactfully as humanly possible, even if they have to do so through back channels to get their messages across and protect their interests.

One of the tragic and unique traits of the blackman, compared to other races, is that he's way too emotional. He's always busy complaining and playing the victim, while other races are THINKING and finding ways to move forward, meanwhile the blackman's still stuck in the past -- self-imposed mental slavery. Hence why he's still been unable to capitalize on the political and social influence he wields, especially in america, in improving and educating himself and his ppl in general.

Oke, I completely get the point you are trying to make. I am just saying if you have a name which you only tolerate certain people calling you, you don't go about broadcasting that name to all and sundry, do you? I know you will find it hard to change your mind about this but I really implore you to try. Yoruba bo, Won ni ''ile la tii mu eko rode'' (charity begins at home) and the only way not be behave like we have double standards is to stop calling ourselves these names.

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The calmest husband makes the stormiest wives
An illiterate king is a crowned ass
Plenty know good ale, but don't know much after that
Absence sharpens love, presence strengthens it
Poor trust is dead, bad pay killed him
Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me
Self praise is no praise
A proverb is the child of experience

Oke, I am sure there isn't one of us here (i.e the participants in this thread) who hasn't read the history about slave trade. It was the whiteman that put a stop to it eventually not our foolish forefathers who sold their own kinsmen for a pitance and unless you are saying you have reincarnated by some means, I don't believe you experienced any of these things you mentioned either. I think it is rather disrespectful of the black man to show such disdain/belittle the struggles of his forefathers by repeating shameful names by which he was called in jest.

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The calmest husband makes the stormiest wives
An illiterate king is a crowned ass
Plenty know good ale, but don't know much after that
Absence sharpens love, presence strengthens it
Poor trust is dead, bad pay killed him
Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me
Self praise is no praise
A proverb is the child of experience

WHOA!!!! .........Nothing more to be said here.........You said it all, and even more.

Because they are not slaves themselves doesn't mean they should let go of their inheritance. Many Whites today still see and treat Blacks as nothing but slaves. Here you are talking as if majority of these Blacks falls into the categories you referring to. If you reside in the Southern States you might understand a little better. These people are under constant pressure, ridicule, tyranny and oppression.

Yes, some Blacks often misbehave, but it’s all due to how they were treated initially. Black were brought up with hanger hidden within them, they hear songs, stories and see how people of color were and are been treated. As time goes on, this anger build up, explode in many different ways and forms. Go to ghettos and projects and see for yourself.
The White man's own land? Or did you mean to say Red Indians' land? Both Whites and Blacks build this nation, without one, the other won't have done it. Look, you might see this or not, but if a 10 Blacks and 10 Whites with equal education and standings apply for job in a White own business looking to 15 people, 10 or more of those that will be hire will be Whites. If a white man and a black man are standing on the side of the road wait for a cab, the white man will get a cab 4 times before the black man. If a black and white man with the same credit reports and income apply for credit, the white man will get the credit 2 times or more times before the black man.

These things happen around us everyday; we can see it or just refuse to see it. How will fill if you were deprived of things that belong to you or you were meant to have just because you're Black? Look, am not saying that Blacks don't have commas, we all know that blacks commit more crimes than any other group. I have been shot at before by a black guy just because of a 31 cents price difference. Lord knows that am tired of seeing so much black on black crimes. But all these have roots, and origins.
And they'll protect THEIR interest at all cost. They care less who get hurt in the process.
To me, it sounds like you saying that blacks are of no GOOD use to this nation. Look when God decided to make Black and White men live together, he made it in a way that they'll both depend on each other for survival. Without Blacks there won't be any America of today, and without Whites there won't be any America of today either. You'll will not understand maybe cause you're never a victim, "Eni tio kan lo mo." See it or you don't.

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Foolish forefathers? May God in his abundant blessings forgive you. Have you ever stop to ask yourself why they sold their people in the first place? Or what types of people were sold? Or how were those people sold?

I didn't experience any physically, but they blood of my forefathers did, and the same blood flow thru me today. When people talk about these things, I often feel like am right there. And you need to get your facts straight on who played major roles in stopping slavery. It all depends on which area you're in. If you speak of United States, blacks did it.

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it surely make sense to me. and yah you have to be in the society to see how it all operates. I think even in Nigeria things like this happen. I mean there's probably a name that one tribe call themselves but as soon as another tribe say it.. then it's war. it work the same way with the term nigger and nigga, see there's difference.

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Soooooo, loro kan sha, the way to make everything go away is to keep on reiterating a name which was derogatory? Remember ''esobe hey'' why don't we all start saying apes obey and answer to it, it will surely show how much we feel for our forefathers suffering.

Oke, i am tired of this argument bo. You no go change your mind and me, i no go ever understand the logic behind your argument so i dey go feed my belle

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The calmest husband makes the stormiest wives
An illiterate king is a crowned ass
Plenty know good ale, but don't know much after that
Absence sharpens love, presence strengthens it
Poor trust is dead, bad pay killed him
Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me
Self praise is no praise
A proverb is the child of experience

You just confirmed the veracity of what I said earlier, that blacks are way too emotional, yet lacking in substance; we display too much gra gra to our own detriment. Look, it's about time blacks dispel the myth, and quit deceiving themselves with that mumbo jumbo crap about how the whites won't have gotten by without them in this country. Gimme a frigging break dude!!! America isn't the only industrialized and developed country in the world my friend. Europe didn't import black ppl to work as slaves on it's plantations or to pick cotton to develop the continent, and surely didn't England, nor did Canada! So enough of all this self-importance b.s talk about how this country won't be where it is without black contribution. That's not to say blacks didn't contribute their quota, but pls let's put things in perspective for goodness sake, and quit acting like we blacks are so gifted with some sort of ..indispensable qualities that would've retarded the progress of this country without black presence here. This same black americans you're pampering are the ones who go to africa and publicly say that they're thankful they got on the slave boats out of africa, and are glad they weren't born on a continent filled with such poverty, filth and squalor. Mohammed Ali said exactly that when he visited africa some decades ago. Yet, they'll turn around and condemn slavery when it suits their selfish interests.

Are blacks the only minorities in this country? Aren't there hispanics, african migrants, asians, e.t.c? Don't these ppl also experience discrimination and racism? The truth is that they also do, but they're very tactful and wise about the way they deal with it. Their leaders are REAL THINKERS and strategists, who know how to get things done, without publicly embarrasing themselves, and know how to protect their interests in their host countries through diplomacy and with finesse. BUT NOT THE BLACK MAN! The black man seems to be cursed with, [both in africa and even in the u.s] demagogues and selfish men who pose as leaders, but only know how to blow hot air and play the 'racism card' at every opportunity they get, to hold on to power. The black man's his own worst enemy, not the whiteman.

Gimbiya mah Arewa homeboy, too true. Actually, from now on, I'ma call all males up in here mah Nigguhs. All females be mah Nigguhresses.

Peace out mah Nigguhs.

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Et tu Abacha?

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The calmest husband makes the stormiest wives
An illiterate king is a crowned ass
Plenty know good ale, but don't know much after that
Absence sharpens love, presence strengthens it
Poor trust is dead, bad pay killed him
Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me
Self praise is no praise
A proverb is the child of experience

Et tulles su Toyin gurl ?
Wassup mah phat homie ? All yallz up in here be mah nigguhz.
Just ask my young homegirl Hardcore. She knows where its at.
Enjoy your weekend.

ciao

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