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Old 03-22-2004, 11:58 AM
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Thick madam...
I feel u on that oh!!!
thats how pple call me razz when I speak yoruba.. and are always asking me how I learn to speak it.
Also, someone came up to me and ask me if I was really born here since I'm always speaking yoruba!!!
i just ignore them!!!

I love my language!!! I love the way it rolls off my tongue!!!! Cant help it..
Keep reping jare,oshun princess!Those people who put such questions to you,please offer them all for sacrifice to ya mama next time they ask you such stupid question.
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Old 03-22-2004, 12:16 PM
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abeg my sis collect high five jare.
I speak my language well well, and everytime I go home to Naija, my friends and even my cousins are always amazed that I speak it very well. (and that makes me mad too)
when i speak to my friends, i speak our language. if they don't like it, they can bite me.
one of them even made a comment and asked if i was sure i lived in the states, and wanted to know if i was hiding out in abuja or Portharcourt somewhere claiming to be abroad!
LIKE!! REALLY!!!
I'm actually working with national assocation of village folks to institute a program where the parents can teach their children our language and let me tell you, that is the hardest fight so far. half the parents don't care or want to teach their children the language.
the program is to instil pride in our youth and it's an uphill battle because the parents aren't helping me at all.
if the latinos and chinese children can speak their language in the states, why can't my children speak Abiriba?

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Thick madam...
I feel u on that oh!!!
thats how pple call me razz when I speak yoruba.. and are always asking me how I learn to speak it.
Also, someone came up to me and ask me if I was really born here since I'm always speaking yoruba!!!
i just ignore them!!!

I love my language!!! I love the way it rolls off my tongue!!!! Cant help it..
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My sistah!!!
Its a given that your children will speak English if they live in a English speaking country.
but u need to instill ur language in the kids b/c its not a given that they will speak ur native language.
And speaking ur language does not mean u wont underdstand english!!!!
BTW.. I have a sexy accent!!

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abeg my sis collect high five jare.
I speak my language well well, and everytime I go home to Naija, my friends and even my cousins are always amazed that I speak it very well. (and that makes me mad too)
when i speak to my friends, i speak our language. if they don't like it, they can bite me.
one of them even made a comment and asked if i was sure i lived in the states, and wanted to know if i was hiding out in abuja or Portharcourt somewhere claiming to be abroad!
LIKE!! REALLY!!!
I'm actually working with national assocation of village folks to institute a program where the parents can teach their children our language and let me tell you, that is the hardest fight so far. half the parents don't care or want to teach their children the language.
the program is to instil pride in our youth and it's an uphill battle because the parents aren't helping me at all.
if the latinos and chinese children can speak their language in the states, why can't my children speak Abiriba?
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Keep reping jare,oshun princess!Those people who put such questions to you,please offer them all for sacrifice to ya mama next time they ask you such stupid question.
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Chei dis topic is still alive. You know sha some ppl are ignorant or just plain live in diff worlds. I was was travelling in Cote d'Ivoire where at a Naija church I met this Igbo boy (there are plenty of hasslling naija traders in that country) so he came up to me to chat and asked me my name. I told him my Igbo name and he said ah ah you're bearing a local name?, that I looked (I don't remember his terms exactly 'cause of the way they speak) but he sha was saying that he didn't think I was rural and that why did my parents give me a local name. I just could not believe my ears.

At the point, I just thought no need to spend my time with this...Like how bush can someone be? Like where's he from? what planet? There are actually levels of bush ppl and he had to be the lowest... he can't even string tense together to make a sentence in english, and he's thinking that my parents must not be exposed enough to give me an Igbo name. I know, as I think of it now, it sounds unbelievable that someone actually said that, but it's true! Anyways, I just asked him isn't village ppl that give their children funny english names like bonaventure, bananabas and perpetua?
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I forgot to mention he had told me that his name was christian
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Old 03-22-2004, 01:32 PM
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Now on my own opinion, I think the problem is fomthe script writer. They mostly write their scripts with English names sometimes because it easier to pronounce and it makes for fluency in line rendering while producing. But I think that's really what makes us african.

Every one that has contributed has said very correctly of what they think about it.

But remember it didn't start yesterday, neither will it end tomorrow.

I suggest if it were mixed and having a dominant of african names then it would be better.
BUt you know as nigerians being divided sometimes when movie even though they speak english has a dominance of Igbo names it is then classified as an igbo movie or a movie acted by igbo stars so is it for yoruba and the rest.
So these reasons some how gives a point but nontheless, I think they are going too far.

It wasn't conspicous because then they started with our usual "felix, emmanuel, david" but now go as far as bearing some strange sound like "Mildred" for a name.

na wah for Warri......!!!
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They should apply the principle of Federal Character in coming up with their names. Names like: Chukwuemeka, Yakubu, Olayiwola and Nosakhare, abbreviated as Chuks, Yakub, Layi and Nosa reflect the Naija ff regions: East, North, West and Mid-west. The abbreviations are easy to pronounce, so, no problems there then. Abi ?

Sola, Vince, Khamileon & kkartel you guys should beat it into their coconut-egg heads joo.

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for real.
I have asked my uncle why he and his wife don't want their kids speaking igbo, guess what he told me: that they don't want their kids speaking with an accent.
my sister had to pinch me to keep me from talking. how can the kids who live in naija speak without a naija accent? and their mom can't speak english very well either and they have househelps who speak pidgin?? man i was hot, but then i had to simmer down...these aren't my kids. My kids will speak igbo in America. that is final.
I feel you ma, i have this family friends here,they have two kids born and raised here,this two kids speaks and writes igbo and that makes me so happy,then last august a relation of the family came on holidays with his 10 years old boy from naija,this boy does ,nt speak igbo,on getting here the boy was shocked to see the kids younger than him ,born and raised overseas speaking igbo,then he was like i want to learn igbo,the reason for him not speaking igbo is simply that his dad doesnt like his kids speaking native ( langs) in his house.
Now how can a business man,dumb as hell prevent the kids from speaking their mothers language and we all know that mainly what you get in lagos is pidgin english,the problem is that many nigerians feels not speaking ones native language makes them differnt from others or something,thats crazyness.
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abeg my sis collect high five jare.
I speak my language well well, and everytime I go home to Naija, my friends and even my cousins are always amazed that I speak it very well. (and that makes me mad too)
when i speak to my friends, i speak our language. if they don't like it, they can bite me.
one of them even made a comment and asked if i was sure i lived in the states, and wanted to know if i was hiding out in abuja or Portharcourt somewhere claiming to be abroad!
LIKE!! REALLY!!!
I'm actually working with national assocation of village folks to institute a program where the parents can teach their children our language and let me tell you, that is the hardest fight so far. half the parents don't care or want to teach their children the language.
the program is to instil pride in our youth and it's an uphill battle because the parents aren't helping me at all.
if the latinos and chinese children can speak their language in the states, why can't my children speak Abiriba?
mmm,you are just my type, how come the chinese kids speaks their native lang everywhere they are.i personally have a white lady,i made it clear to her that my kids must speak and write igbo,and learn my igbo culture,i made it clear that without she agreeing to this factors,am not marrying her and she is cool with it,i believe our kids will surely be whatever we want them to be,my best friend in highschool then in naija was a mixed ,his mum an american white and his dad from my town,but this guy speaks igbo even better than me.so the truth remains that some parents dont care much about the language issue.
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Most educated elites in naija think it is shameful for their kids to speak yoruba or wahtever language the parents speak. When the kids come abroad however, they are shocked to note tha oyinbo kids cannot understand them despite the fact that they speak only English. How stupid is choosing to speak one language when you have the opportunity to be bilingual? I teach my kids yoruba, they don't speak well but understand.

Most Asian families in Uk, the mums don't speak english and so the kids have no choice but to speak punjabi, urdu or wtever. I know a family who have lived here for 40yrs and still the mum doesn't speak english.
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Sister Toyin, I do agree with you. Most elites in Naija (educated or non) and including non-elites think it is shameful for their children to speak their native language. (not to sound pompous or anything, but my father's driver and his wife, they don't speak igbo to their son, they speak "english" to him, like WTF??) I don't understand when we lost our pride in who we are. and it's true, most of these english speaking nigerian kids are usually shocked when they come abroad and people don't understand what they're saying. kudos to you for teaching your children Yoruba. Kudos.
I don't think my parent's generation was stupid for teaching their children both english and and their native language.

realljuice my brother, I clap for you. I am glad that your lady is in agreement with your decision to teach your children about their heritage. She's a special woman. and I do agree with you, somehow Nigerians believe that if their children do not speak their mother/father tongue, that they are better than everyone else. which i don't understand to say the least but....

mcallstar, I respect your opinion but I still beg to differ o!! easier to pronounce or not, the fact still remains that these are Nigerian movies and why not use Nigerian names? I still applaud the person who wrote Paint My Love (terrible movie) and used native names like Edozie, Uloma, Uche... it didn't take away from the film and they are as easy to pronounce as Franca, Perpetual, Michelle, Lori, Frank, Bob, Charles.
How many chinese movies give their characters english names?
But I agree with the rest of your post though, being Nigerian, if there is an aboundance of native names in the movie, it will automatically be categorized as igbo, yoruba, hausa, calaber ... etc movie.


Moremi my sista, it is absolutely true...it is a given that because we are in an english speaking country, the kids will speak english, so it is up to us to instil a pride and love of our culture and country into our kids.

well, i need to get off this topic because I'll be here all day all discussing this. The bottom line: My children are learning Abiriba and they will speak it.
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This is definitely a movie theme!This issue should really be dealt with in a movie that takes a very close look at it.
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i can see it...

I can see it.
Movie chronicles the life of child born into elite family who do not allow any native languages in their house. Movie shows the struggle the child goes thru to learn about his culture and who he is and why he is not to know about his heritage.
Cut to child arriving at the states and realizing that he is at a disadvantage, he is in an environment where he is the oddman out, most of the nigerians he knows speak their language and even the americans know more about his culture than he does.

oh yeah, I see it.

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I can see it.
Movie chronicles the life of child born into elite family who do not allow any native languages in their house. Movie shows the struggle the child goes thru to learn about his culture and who he is and why he is not to know about his heritage.
Cut to child arriving at the states and realizing that he is at a disadvantage, he is in an environment where he is the oddman out, most of the nigerians he knows speak their language and even the americans know more about his culture than he does.

oh yeah, I see it.
Brilliant idea.He does not even have to leave the country.He can get enough conflict back home.
He sees a posse of friends in school who speak their native lang perfectly and tries to fit in but can only speak queen's english(not even pidgin,he can't manage).The make fun of him all the time and this makes him mad.
So he aims with dogged determination to learn his mother tongue and heads off to a head on collision with his parents who are absolutely against it.
Who will back down?!!
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