Originally Posted by vince

Man,you sure make a big deal out of this fone thing!Pronounciations of "dear" and "dare"?Why does it matter so much how properly they are pronounced,as long as the context in which these words are used is well understood,what does it matter?
How does an african who lives in africa speak phonetics without sounding fake?Africans and english,na wa!Una too make big fuss over nothing!Sometimes you forget that this damn english is not our mother tongue in the first place.
If we have to fuss about languages,let's fuss over ours.
Lobatan!

Originally Posted by TheForce

Pronunciations and accents I think they are not the same, It is one thing to pronounce things right it is another for the accent to be reflected on what is pronounced right.
But if you feel there is no big deal for the fuss, then no big deal, at least that is how you feel about it.

Originally Posted by beautiful

Have u noticed when they say ''ger-arau-hia as in get out of here.

Originally Posted by vince

They may not be the same,but accents influence pronounciations.Have you heard a german speak english before?Or vice versa,englishman speaking german?Don't they have pronounciations issues?Who makes a big fuss about that?
Another question for you;"Will you fuss so much if an englishman mangle your mother tongue?"

Originally Posted by Thickmadam

i don't know where this one falls - accent or phonetics, but i was cringing when i saw a movie and one of the top actresses said "la-er" instead of later.

and ramsey nouah is very guilty of saying "cont" for "can't"
DUDE!! there is no O in can't!

there is another word he kills but it escapes me.

i buried the english language a long time ago, held a funeral for the language and everything because our actors and actresses...i dont know.

oh wel.

good night.

Originally Posted by Thickmadam

i don't know where this one falls - accent or phonetics, but i was cringing when i saw a movie and one of the top actresses said "la-er" instead of later.

and ramsey nouah is very guilty of saying "cont" for "can't"
DUDE!! there is no O in can't!

there is another word he kills but it escapes me.

i buried the english language a long time ago, held a funeral for the language and everything because our actors and actresses...i dont know.

oh wel.

good night.

Originally Posted by Thickmadam

No, you're right, they are NOT the same, slangs and phonetics.
but they are both bad in my book, as of right now, i don't know which is the lesser evil.

it makes my skin crawl when i hear the slangs being used, and used in the wrong context, i detest that N-word being used all willy-nilly. sometimes i laugh at them when they use the slangs.

the phonetics on the other hand, i can sit through and wince throughout the movie or scene. sometimes.

bah!
i don't know.

Originally Posted by blackbutterfly

There is a difference between speaking clearly and in one's natural tone/cadence and putting on an accent that hasn't been worked on, finessed etc...people fail to understand that putting on a fake accent actually makes the speech worse when the accent isn't even right! British/Australian actors like Nicole Kidman, Cate Blanchette, Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale, Russell Crowe, Colin Farrell, Chiwetel Ejiofor etc put on American accents for all the roles they play and it doesn't distort their speech...and vice versa when Americans have had to play people from the other side of the river.

Ramsey speaks clearly but his British accent is not natural and/or necessary for every part he plays. He uses it in EVERYTHING - poor village pauper, rich village prince, American boy come home, poor college student, rich college student, business owner, gangster from Warri - I mean EVERYTHING!

And the thing is, he doesn't need to work so hard. He speaks very eloquently and clearly without that mess and he would be just fine speaking like the Lagos boy he is but he's bought into the idea that sounding British or American means you are more enlightened, more exposed. I don't think this about Stephanie for some odd reason, I think she might have just started it and now she can't stop herself. I don't think anyone has told her that it sounds terrible and I think she would stop if told so. She is another one that when she speaks without the fake accents always sounds so beautiful. That's why I love Kate Henshaw-Nuttal, Bimbo Akintola, Omotola, Patricia Ozokwor - they speak the way they speak in real life, no need for all the extra trimmings and I don't know about you guys but I dont' have a problem hearing them.

All that fake accent crap takes away from the character, instead of focusing on the acting...I am caught up in trying to interpret what they are saying.

My father has three University degrees, has lived in America over 35 years and still sound like the Nigerian that he was born and raised. My dad is not interested in sounding like an American, he is proud of how he sounds and is often fun of saying that Americans don't know how to pronouce very well and are the most grammatically incorrect people he knows! He will say what the heck is "warra"...WATER! WATAH! That's my pops for ya

Slang na another matter entirely and they oughta just leave that alone. It is terrible...we have own slangs, use those! Who has slang more than Nigerians? I don't know why they think that an educated, enlightened Nigerian can't toss in pidgin slang here and there...they MUST go use American slang and in turn end up looking/sounding very STEEWPID! I don't blame the actors when the writer puts the slang in the wrong context that's what the actor who doesn't know better would say so let's leave the actors out of this abeg when writers and directors don't do their research before presenting text to an actor.