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Nollywood Actors and Phonetics
I have heard people complain about actors in nollywood speaking phonetically, this development I find personally inciting. People like Ramsey Nuoah, Stephanie Okereke etc, are taking Nigerian English accents some notches higher, away from the boundaries where English and our Local Dialect infiltrates.
Some actors/actress when they open their mouth to speak makes you want to hide for shame. For me phonetics is ok. What I can't stand though is actors trying to mimic American slangs, when they have no single idea how to use the phrases, and that makes me want to jump out of my skin.
What do you think folks?
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Bros, this has been an ongoing issue for me.
is it just the slang? or the "accents?"
i was watching a movie (the name escapes me) and this character was named BUSH!
and in rapping to the girl, he said "my daddy named me Bush after his friend George Bush" 
are you for real?
i mean, to each his own. if they like making themselves look crazy, then i guess i should learn to love it, no?
When He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named I tries to sound like an american/british, i just crumple up inside, and i'm so, oh so happy, that Jim Iyke has put an end to that.
ms okereke seems to be getting away from that herself, and for that, i am very thankful.
man! we've come a long way, i remember watching a movie with lilian bach as an austrian woman...Jehovah God in heaven!!! atrocious.
i mean, it's ok if you want to mimic american slangs, but for heaven's sake use it in the right context, and i HATE hearing that N-word used.
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07-18-2008, 08:47 AM
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This is one pain I never stop feeling! I pray it goes away as soon as yesterday because with Nollywood getting as better as it is these days, I do not want that screaming pain in my ears any more.
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07-18-2008, 08:55 AM
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This is one pain I never stop feeling! I pray it goes away as soon as yesterday because with Nollywood getting as better as it is these days, I do not want that screaming pain in my ears any more.
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believer, it is here to stay for a while longer, as long as the new artistes keep on walking off the streets without any form of training and think that acting the part of an "american/british" wannabe means not speaking the way normally do and overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-exagerating the way they talk.
as long as people like He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named keeps on talking like that, the new comers who emulate them will keep on doing that.
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What is the issue here? Is it the wannabe slangs or the phonetics? Because me I do not see them as the same.
I prefer the phonetics to some of their so called natural accent that is heavily laced with the local intonations.
But as for the fake slangs, that one dey give me headache anytime I hear am.
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There is a difference between speaking clearly and in one's natural tone/cadence and putting on an accent that hasn't been worked on, finessed etc...people fail to understand that putting on a fake accent actually makes the speech worse when the accent isn't even right! British/Australian actors like Nicole Kidman, Cate Blanchette, Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale, Russell Crowe, Colin Farrell, Chiwetel Ejiofor etc put on American accents for all the roles they play and it doesn't distort their speech...and vice versa when Americans have had to play people from the other side of the river.
Ramsey speaks clearly but his British accent is not natural and/or necessary for every part he plays. He uses it in EVERYTHING - poor village pauper, rich village prince, American boy come home, poor college student, rich college student, business owner, gangster from Warri - I mean EVERYTHING!
And the thing is, he doesn't need to work so hard. He speaks very eloquently and clearly without that mess and he would be just fine speaking like the Lagos boy he is but he's bought into the idea that sounding British or American means you are more enlightened, more exposed. I don't think this about Stephanie for some odd reason, I think she might have just started it and now she can't stop herself. I don't think anyone has told her that it sounds terrible and I think she would stop if told so. She is another one that when she speaks without the fake accents always sounds so beautiful. That's why I love Kate Henshaw-Nuttal, Bimbo Akintola, Omotola, Patricia Ozokwor - they speak the way they speak in real life, no need for all the extra trimmings and I don't know about you guys but I dont' have a problem hearing them.
All that fake accent crap takes away from the character, instead of focusing on the acting...I am caught up in trying to interpret what they are saying.
My father has three University degrees, has lived in America over 35 years and still sound like the Nigerian that he was born and raised. My dad is not interested in sounding like an American, he is proud of how he sounds and is often fun of saying that Americans don't know how to pronouce very well and are the most grammatically incorrect people he knows! He will say what the heck is "warra"...WATER! WATAH!  That's my pops for ya
Slang na another matter entirely and they oughta just leave that alone. It is terrible...we have own slangs, use those! Who has slang more than Nigerians? I don't know why they think that an educated, enlightened Nigerian can't toss in pidgin slang here and there...they MUST go use American slang and in turn end up looking/sounding very STEEWPID! I don't blame the actors when the writer puts the slang in the wrong context that's what the actor who doesn't know better would say so let's leave the actors out of this abeg when writers and directors don't do their research before presenting text to an actor.
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What is the issue here? Is it the wannabe slangs or the phonetics? Because me I do not see them as the same.
I prefer the phonetics to some of their so called natural accent that is heavily laced with the local intonations.
But as for the fake slangs, that one dey give me headache anytime I hear am.
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No, you're right, they are NOT the same, slangs and phonetics.
but they are both bad in my book, as of right now, i don't know which is the lesser evil.
it makes my skin crawl when i hear the slangs being used, and used in the wrong context, i detest that N-word being used all willy-nilly. sometimes i laugh at them when they use the slangs.
the phonetics on the other hand, i can sit through and wince throughout the movie or scene. sometimes.
bah!
i don't know.
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All that fake accent crap takes away from the character, instead of focusing on the acting...I am caught up in trying to interpret what they are saying.
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 BB!! You keep missing the next line because you turn to the person next to you saying "What did he say?!"
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 BB!! You keep missing the next line because you turn to the person next to you saying "What did he say?!" 
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TOTALLY and then I have to now rewind the ting so I can repeat it...and back again until I get it  I do this the most when unfortunately I am watching Ramsey, Bob Manuel Udokwu (help me, Jesus), Emeka Ike, Jim Iyke (back in the day), Rita D, Stephanie (especially), RMD (occasionally), Dakore and Auntie Joke. I mean, seriously...get real, people...It is not necessary.
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[quote=Thickmadam;613004]Bros, this has been an ongoing issue for me.
is it just the slang? or the "accents?"
i was watching a movie (the name escapes me) and this character was named BUSH!
and in rapping to the girl, he said "my daddy named me Bush after his friend George Bush" 
are you for real?
i mean, to each his own. if they like making themselves look crazy, then i guess i should learn to love it, no?
When He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named I tries to sound like an american/british, i just crumple up inside, and i'm so, oh so happy, that Jim Iyke has put an end to that.
ms okereke seems to be getting away from that herself, and for that, i am very thankful.
man! we've come a long way, i remember watching a movie with lilian bach as an austrian woman...Jehovah God in heaven!!! atrocious. i mean, it's ok if you want to mimic american slangs, but for heaven's sake use it in the right context, and i HATE hearing that N-word used.[/QUOTE
 
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Bros, this has been an ongoing issue for me.
is it just the slang? or the "accents?"
i was watching a movie (the name escapes me) and this character was named BUSH!
and in rapping to the girl, he said "my daddy named me Bush after his friend George Bush" 
are you for real?
i mean, to each his own. if they like making themselves look crazy, then i guess i should learn to love it, no?
When He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named I tries to sound like an american/british, i just crumple up inside, and i'm so, oh so happy, that Jim Iyke has put an end to that.
ms okereke seems to be getting away from that herself, and for that, i am very thankful.
man! we've come a long way, i remember watching a movie with lilian bach as an austrian woman...Jehovah God in heaven!!! atrocious.
i mean, it's ok if you want to mimic american slangs, but for heaven's sake use it in the right context, and i HATE hearing that N-word used.
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The name of the film is MARKET SELLER with Omotola GODDDDDDD Lilian was really bad
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Ramsey speaks clearly but his British accent is not natural and/or necessary for every part he plays. He uses it in EVERYTHING - poor village pauper, rich village prince, American boy come home, poor college student, rich college student, business owner, gangster from Warri - I mean EVERYTHING!
All that fake accent crap takes away from the character, instead of focusing on the acting...I am caught up in trying to interpret what they are saying.
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BBfly, you hit the nail on the head right there. There's no need to add anything else!
I mean, I don't wanna brag but, I do have a few friends in Hollywood. In Hollywood, nobody can ask you to fake your accent, unless you're in character and needed to fake the accent to portray that xtre. The worst they could do is put you on an accent removal program so you can learn how to accentuate and speak a little more clearly.
After all, one of the most popular TV actors in America is James Gandolfini (Tony Soprano), but he does have a very thick Italian accent. Doesn't he?Once people can understand you, case closed! Contrary to what many Africans, especially Nigerians, think an accent is not a bad thing. It is part of who you are....it's your identity. And the saddest part is that it's only Africans that tend to be ashamed of their accent. I am yet to see an Asian that wants to fake his accent.
And by the way, I am a public speaker myself even though I've got one of the thickest Igbo accent in the world. But that has never affected me or make me to feel inadequate in any way, shape or form. As long as I know my stuff, I can stand there and speak to the President of the United States.
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I have heard people complain about actors in nollywood speaking phonetically, this development I find personally inciting. People like Ramsey Nuoah, Stephanie Okereke etc, are taking Nigerian English accents some notches higher, away from the boundaries where English and our Local Dialect infiltrates.
Some actors/actress when they open their mouth to speak makes you want to hide for shame. For me phonetics is ok. What I can't stand though is actors trying to mimic American slangs, when they have no single idea how to use the phrases, and that makes me want to jump out of my skin.
What do you think folks?
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Even The Queen was squeezing face while we were watching Critical Decision and some other flick with ramsey...she condemned Georgina Onuoha once she appeared on screen i was laughing seriously!
For me normal naija accent is not bad at all i can accept some h b and c factors because it is nollywood it is nigerian...thats the way we speak..this extra phonetics dey annoy me sef!
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the following people just need to be shot:
Mike Ezuronye... men, I have stopped watching any movie with him in it. one sentence is British, another is new york the next is a Midwestern American...
Bob Manuel just get rid of this man
Desmond elliot even his uneven teeth makes the whole thing worse
Eucharia Anunobi
Dakore Ebgusun
Ramsey Nouah
Stephanie Okereke
Nadia Buari maam you were born and raised in Ghana, enough already. u be half caste no mean say u for speak accents.
jackie Appiah
Van Vicker
Nana Ama Mcbrown... please stop acting and continue eating meat at chop bars.
monalisa chinda
but above all: Mike Ezuronye again
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the following people just need to be shot:
Mike Ezuronye... men, I have stopped watching any movie with him in it. one sentence is British, another is new york the next is a Midwestern American...
Bob Manuel just get rid of this man
Desmond elliot even his uneven teeth makes the whole thing worse
Eucharia Anunobi
Dakore Ebgusun
Ramsey Nouah
Stephanie Okereke
Nadia Buari maam you were born and raised in Ghana, enough already. u be half caste no mean say u for speak accents.
jackie Appiah
Van Vicker
Nana Ama Mcbrown... please stop acting and continue eating meat at chop bars.
monalisa chinda
but above all: Mike Ezuronye again
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This list is far fetch.. Dakore speaks well, Monalisa is trying likewise Desmond and Bob Manuel.
The only issue with Desmond is the lisping and sometimes roll his eyes like a fag. He just need to caution.
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