A Sting in a Tale

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Kala Lou

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#41
In terms of story concepts I don't see that much difference between Ghanaian and Nigerian made movies. To say this particular movie lacks originality but at the same time you give props to Nollywood movies is a farce. It almost seems like some people that don't like the movie hate it because of its better production quality, as if African movies are not supposed to have good sound or picture quality, or good actors or good dialog, or scenery and damn any producer who dares to make a movie with these qualities lest they be accused of making a "westernized" movie.
 

Brooms

A Pimp Called Slickback
#42
I'm yet to believe this movie actually moved me..... I'm hardly touched by weepies (be you Precious or what may you) but I'm really touched..... Just finished watching this one and can feel my heart tear in twos......

At the end of the movie a question popped into my head..... Whats with the hustle?? Great job!! I applaud everyone that made this work.....

I have my reservations here and there BUT its unimportant at least for now......

And that Lydia chic rocks no be small oh!!!.....


Sky, Precious didn't move me that much too......maybe because the movie lacked a proper score??? I don't know....they played hip hop in scenes that were very emotional and that should not have been.....it played down my sympathy for the character.
 

kolinzo

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#44
The picture, the directing and the acting...It ain't Hollywood but it's still better than most of what I've seen coming out of Nigeria LATELY...yeah I've seen a lot of the "latest" Naija movies but I'm still not impressed. I guess it will take more than packing a movie full of stars to make a good movie...how about a plot, good acting, believable dialog.....well I still get hope for my people tho..
The picture? Definitely not. Just because it looks different from average Nollywood movies doesn't make it a good picture. There other movies like The Figurine, Narrow Path, Egberu Milli, etc which can boast of great pictures. The picture is dull in A Sting in a Tale.

The acting? Well, to have a debate on that it'd have to be between certain movies. One just can't say "oh the acting in A Sting in a Tale is better than Naija movies" without being specific on which movies you comparing it too. I can't say the actors didn't do a good job but to say their acting in this movie is better than Naija actors in general is far above the weight.

The directing? Again, the director took her time to direct the movie. Fabulous! But his/her directing is not Original when we look at the scheme of things. Now is she/he better than average director in Naija? Well it depends on what you like. If you like Western movies then she/he is good at copying that, but if you want African story with African touch then he/she's is not better than other Nollywood directors. Maybe if he/she comes out with African movies with African touch we'd be able to do comparison. But right now she has nothing on the directors in Nollywood.

Finally. You talked of Nigeria movies being full of stars before they can be successful. Well, it is because of the great works these Naija actors have put into the industry that make it seem that way. 99% of Naija movies have star actors in them and they are:

Tony Umez
Patience Ozokwor
John Okafor (Mr. Ibu)
Madam Ezeonu
Pete Edochie
Kanayo o Kanayo

...and list goes on. You see my point? Besides, A Sting in A Tale also has Ghanaian stars in it. Do you disagree?
 

kolinzo

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#46
In terms of story concepts I don't see that much difference between Ghanaian and Nigerian made movies. To say this particular movie lacks originality but at the same time you give props to Nollywood movies is a farce. It almost seems like some people that don't like the movie hate it because of its better production quality, as if African movies are not supposed to have good sound or picture quality, or good actors or good dialog, or scenery and damn any producer who dares to make a movie with these qualities lest they be accused of making a "westernized" movie.
You will have a point if you are not comparing 'a' Ghanaian movie to all Nigerian movies. You are missing the point totally. What I am saying here is that the way she/he directs her/his movie is like watching an American movie. I am not complaining about the story (I did write something indirectly about the movie having an African story but is told in Hollywood way). Beautiful scenery? Are you trying to say you first found this in A Sting in a Tale? Good Dialog? Are you saying you first found this in A Sting in a Tale? I don't think anybody would disagree that having beautiful African sceneries in our movies is a way foward. The directing in this movie is too Hollywoodish.
 

Angela81

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#47
You will have a point if you are not comparing 'a' Ghanaian movie to all Nigerian movies. You are missing the point totally. What I am saying here is that the way she/he directs her/his movie is like watching an American movie. I am not complaining about the story (I did write something indirectly about the movie having an African story but is told in Hollywood way). Beautiful scenery? Are you trying to say you first found this in A Sting in a Tale? Good Dialog? Are you saying you first found this in A Sting in a Tale? I don't think anybody would disagree that having beautiful African sceneries in our movies is a way foward. The directing in this movie is too Hollywoodish.
because of the NON- ELEMENTARY school camera work? what do you mean by hollywoodish? because its done like it SHOULD be done?

it's interesting what you say because the film did not do well and is not doing well. although that atrocity of perfect picture did.

Sola said something interesting about people getting uncomfortable when you move the goal post. He is damn right.


White waters, sting, I sing of a well, the figurine and double all did not fare well in Ghana at all. I am wondering if Ghanaians and some other African audiences are simply too...what word am I looking for? used to mediocrity and it has become their perfection?
 

kolinzo

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#48
because of the NON- ELEMENTARY school camera work? what do you mean by hollywoodish? because its done like it SHOULD be done?

it's interesting what you say because the film did not do well and is not doing well. although that atrocity of perfect picture did.

Sola said something interesting about people getting uncomfortable when you move the goal post. He is damn right.


White waters, sting, I sing of a well, the figurine and double all did not fare well in Ghana at all. I am wondering if Ghanaians and some other African audiences are simply too...what word am I looking for? used to mediocrity and it has become their perfection?

Of course the atrocity called Perfect Picture would do well because it was a one off and it is not an African story. A Sting in A Tale is an African story told like hollywood story.

To say we are used to mediocrity is absurd. We have been complaining about Nigerian movies on this forum for too long, maybe you missed those threads where we complain about the mediocrity in Nollywood, and some of them are waking up to the fact. Anyway, I'd continue with this tomorrow because i gotta run.
 

Brooms

A Pimp Called Slickback
#49
because of the NON- ELEMENTARY school camera work? what do you mean by hollywoodish? because its done like it SHOULD be done?

it's interesting what you say because the film did not do well and is not doing well. although that atrocity of perfect picture did.

Sola said something interesting about people getting uncomfortable when you move the goal post. He is damn right.


White waters, sting, I sing of a well, the figurine and double all did not fare well in Ghana at all. I am wondering if Ghanaians and some other African audiences are simply too...what word am I looking for? used to mediocrity and it has become their perfection?



Hmm....I see what you are saying. I don't know if its mediocrity perse,...they want a film to be shot at the same flat angles an Egya Koo and Nollywood films

are shot at. With the same concepts. Moving from what makes our people comfortable will create a backlash. True, it was shot like a Hollywood movie as far as

camera and shooting angles go. THAT alone is what made the film appear 'Hollywoodish.' All the films mentioned above were shot from a non traditional angle ie.

not what we have become used to and maybe that is why they didn't do as well. Perfect Picture was 10 times more Hollywoodish than Sting...and it sold well...so

maybe it was a marketing glitch. Then again, the packaging with the three actors walking on the street all wearing white was extremely boring and

unimaginative:tired.
PP came in a red catchy cover that drew people's attention. So maybe the cover sorta killed it too.....what was Shirley thinking?
 

Kala Lou

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#50
The picture? Definitely not. Just because it looks different from average Nollywood movies doesn't make it a good picture. There other movies like The Figurine, Narrow Path, Egberu Milli, etc which can boast of great pictures. The picture is dull in A Sting in a Tale.
Hey to each his own..you might find the scenes boring but I do not..the directors choices of shots were very interesting...like the shot of the feet of the people pushing the bus unlike shots in MOST Nollywood movies of just talking heads.

The acting? Well, to have a debate on that it'd have to be between certain movies. One just can't say "oh the acting in A Sting in a Tale is better than Naija movies" without being specific on which movies you comparing it too. I can't say the actors didn't do a good job but to say their acting in this movie is better than Naija actors in general is far above the weight.
Yeah the acting was much better than in most Naija movies...cause for one, the actors were actually reciting written dialog..Most Nollywood movies the actors are adlibbing dialog cause they probably have to be on another movie set the following week, no one has time to cram dialog.

The directing? Again, the director took her time to direct the movie. Fabulous! But his/her directing is not Original when we look at the scheme of things. Now is she/he better than average director in Naija? Well it depends on what you like. If you like Western movies then she/he is good at copying that, but if you want African story with African touch then he/she's is not better than other Nollywood directors. Maybe if he/she comes out with African movies with African touch we'd be able to do comparison. But right now she has nothing on the directors in Nollywood.
Until the Nolly industry gets out of that fast food mentality of making movies, we will keep churning out these forgetable flicks. Writers don't have time to fully develop characters in their screenplays, directors don't have time for multiple shots, actors don't have time to memorize dialog. It looks like the only way to make a good flick in Naija is you are ready to finance it yourself cause as long as maketers are making all the decisions....

Finally. You talked of Nigeria movies being full of stars before they can be successful. Well, it is because of the great works these Naija actors have put into the industry that make it seem that way. 99% of Naija movies have star actors in them and they are:

Tony Umez
Patience Ozokwor
John Okafor (Mr. Ibu)
Madam Ezeonu
Pete Edochie
Kanayo o Kanayo

...and list goes on. You see my point? Besides, A Sting in A Tale also has Ghanaian stars in it. Do you disagree?
I never said anything about putting stars to be succesful...I said it would take more than just having stars in a movie to make a good movie. You can have Majid, Nouh, Iyke and Jesus in a movie but if the screenplay is bad the movie is still going to be bad.
 

sky_flies

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#51
Sky, Precious didn't move me that much too......maybe because the movie lacked a proper score??? I don't know....they played hip hop in scenes that were very emotional and that should not have been.....it played down my sympathy for the character.
Brooms, I don't think the score was somewhat inappropriate...... rather I think the score tells that Precious is not one of those movies that seeks sympathy BUT its an empathy call for the kinds of Precious around globe.....

maybe it was a marketing glitch. Then again, the packaging with the three actors walking on the street all wearing white was extremely boring and

unimaginative:tired.
PP came in a red catchy cover that drew people's attention. So maybe the cover sorta killed it too.....what was Shirley thinking?
You are forgetting the genre of the movie...... Its an adventurous movie and Shirley had to think adventurously....... Get it!? :roll
 

Brooms

A Pimp Called Slickback
#52
Brooms, I don't think the score was somewhat inappropriate...... rather I think the score tells that Precious is not one of those movies that seeks sympathy BUT its an empathy call for the kinds of Precious around globe.....



You are forgetting the genre of the movie...... Its an adventurous movie and Shirley had to think adventurously....... Get it!? :roll

Very funny Sky:). OK maybe nexttime she could use more primary colors on the cover instead of yellow and white? Yawn.
 

sky_flies

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#53
Very funny Sky:). OK maybe nexttime she could use more primary colors on the cover instead of yellow and white? Yawn.
Well, Brooms the end all for me is that the movie was nicely told...... Posters serve as marketing strategies and nothing more...... It can either boost the success of the movie or not..... Most importantly, it doesn't alter the act of film making (so I careless sorta....).
 
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because of the NON- ELEMENTARY school camera work? what do you mean by hollywoodish? because its done like it SHOULD be done?

it's interesting what you say because the film did not do well and is not doing well. although that atrocity of perfect picture did.

Sola said something interesting about people getting uncomfortable when you move the goal post. He is damn right.


White waters, sting, I sing of a well, the figurine and double all did not fare well in Ghana at all. I am wondering if Ghanaians and some other African audiences are simply too...what word am I looking for? used to mediocrity and it has become their perfection?
But are they marketed well? Did they spend the money to get the publicity necessary to raise the awareness in Ghana?

The Perfect Picture flopped in Nigeria while it's the biggest hit ever in Ghana. If that's what the audience want, they would have showed up in Nigeria too. Marketing is always an issue especially when the audience is not familiar with the actors and the subject is also not a common subject in the movies.

You have to try harder to sell it. Anywhere in the world, that's the case.
 

NTB

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#57
Then again, the packaging with the three actors walking on the street all wearing white was extremely boring and unimaginative:tired. PP came in a red catchy cover that drew people's attention. So maybe the cover sorta killed it too.....what was Shirley thinking?
You got a point there.
 
#60
Brooms: i care abt d AMAA award show o! i hv been watchin it since its inception despite dem lyk do mago mago cme join 2 actress in 1 movie 4 one category lyk say na collective acting i de enjoy d glitters :).
SFM woman is my best Ghanaian filmmaker. jst seen 1 of her film & i am sure she is d best in Ghana. she has got class 4real & perfect picture me luv so much- bt she rele need 2 work wid my 9ja fella biko. i suggest Jim Iyke or Benjamin Joseph 4 male & Genny or Kate 4 female- pls do!
 
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