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Discussion in 'FILMMAKING, INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY' started by nkerastella, Nov 6, 2005.
Not showbiz. You basically fix your own paycheck.
Chief Vince, not buying films will not solve the problems because in Naija we are dealing with people with over bloated ego! Even if you boycott their films, they will never ever bend nor listen to fans. Oyibo people get wetin dem call feed back. They are willing to listen to consumers' reaction and go back to drawing table to redefine policies. Lai lai, no be for we Naija o! These guys think they are even more important than viewers, infact they think they are doing favour to the artistes, viewers and the whole society at large: we all need to sit around these guys. Now, I am realist. I will not crucify marketers for any way they have chosen to act. I will detest it. I will dislike it. But that will not make it not there. If I feel too bad, I will spear head an alternative distribution. It is not impossibel. It is only difficult. Now if there is nothing I can do about it, I will just swallow it because whatever we say on this site will never make those guys compromise or stop them from banning few actors before next year. Let me tell you, they are so sure no other group people will be WILLING enough to risk their money, be SMART enough to distribute about 15,000 VHS and 10,000 VCD in two months and would not look further because they have achieved a huge success! Believe me insulting them on line or not buying their products may enhance them cutting the 400k max they are even generously implementing!
You will not regret 30 DAYS one bit, that is a very strong promise. Now, on the issue on bold, I can tell you what to do and how to do it.
Na so so kegs of palm wine na him u been de promise me! E don pass fifteen and I never see one! PM me ur number if you de Holland next week. I de come Frankfurt abeg o!
So in other words,the fans should just give in to the "powers that be",and let the marketers do whatever they wish.While i disagree with you on that,i will leave that to the fans to decide.
Not really. My point is bycotting their films or insulting them over the Internet will not deter them to ban these guys in the next few weeks. I am just sick of people talking endlessly without offering any solution through actions. I am not just refering to NR in particular, but as a people we have this ugly habit of running our mouth without even finding out the original cause. There is no smoke without fire. There are so much that we do not even know. Believe me I have spent so much time inside Nollywood proper. Things are not the way they seem to us outside Nollywood. I am not pro-marketers (after all I am another victim of theirs). Like I said, you may stop buying their films but just keep in mind these guys do not think like you. They will never get it! They are comfortable with selling few VHS and VCD copies in few weeks. They make some money and rush for two more productions. That will not get any message across to them like that. The only language they will understand is an intelligent competition. If we cannot do that now, I don't know. Just that I do not support too much talk that yields no solution.
@coloured. I believe boycotting their movies will send a message to them that the fans must have a say in major decisions.
@highlighted. Some of us are not as rich as those marketers, but we're the people who buy the movies and the only way we can have a say is by boycotting their movies. They'll get the message when there's a huge drop in sales.
he just keeps pushing the boycotting...
thanks but dats really crazy.i guess da stars should be the ones to decide wat they want or.../.
Na wa o... some people are just not business minded. It's more important for them to flex muscle than to see the big picture. I am very new in Nollywood but I can even see a marked difference in the older movies with the 'stars' than a lot of these newer movies. It seems like the quality of the scripts are worse or maybe these 'stars' had a way of working with these subpar scripts and translating them better on screen.
They are daft for trying to put a ceiling on these stars paychecks. It's all about trying to put them in their place but they forget that both parties need on another. The industry is still so new that they shouldn't be trying to destroy it so quickly.
dON'T MIND ME, O...CHASING NAIRA, ETC. wILL BE IN TOUCH, SOON!
I read with a heavy heart all that's been said - ok, I confess I didn't get to read all but I think I have a general drift of everyone's position.
I beg to differ on some issues however.
First, I have it on good authority that the marketers we are all carpeting now NEVER wanted to be producers and directors and scriptwriters and...in the first place. The greedy, the dupes and the grabby of the industry forced them to enter filming locations in the first place because of the reccurrent ugly incidences of unpaid crew cast and everyone inbetween.
They professionals themselves were undercutting teach other in bids for funds from the marketers who were quite content then to be 'executive producers'
So production costs crashed - we know some of te culprits - people started to earn less and a few favored were paid extremely well, even if it's only on the pages of newspapers! There are some who deserved it though.
However, the industry itself refused to grow with its new status as a high earner sector - no genuine structures that can initiate or negotiate actions or arbitrate disputes. Oh, efforts were made, o. But you know Naija now, if flux pays, why have order! So, a few benefited from it and the coaster rolled. The marketers grew more powerful with every production, doing their own casting, editing their own stories, telling the director which shots are right and NOW, MOST OF THEM ARE SCRIPTWRITERS, PRODUCERS, DIRECTORS, CONTINUITY, MAKEUP, "DOPs"...and importing folks, able and disabled from their villages when "those Lagos and Enugu guyns" get too big for their pants.
Ejike Asuegbu and his co-riders DO NOT HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE MARKETERS. They sold out any right to speak for anyone in the industry when they refused to call the individual guilds together for inter-guild negotiations that will give birth, hopefully to clearly defined industry standards that ANYONE, be you from moon or Hollywood will have to conform with as the very groundfloor in negotiations for fees, terms of employment, etc
You are talking about the Marketers? They are abgels. Read up on Kate Henshaw. She was made to sign a contract that is governed by the laws of SOUTH AFRICA!
That's the industry Ejike is speaking for!
I gotta rush off now.Will be back later to give my response.
That's right,beems.I read it in quite a few articles last year about misappropriation of the marketers funds by unscrupulous producers,and i can only say that that is very regretable.But nonetheless,the marketers took a fundermentally wrong decision in getting involved with the entire production chain,especially the creative part of the chain.A trader,or marketer,or businessman,or any other person whose area deals with money,has no business in the storytelling dept.It is a universal wisdom that a storyteller dare not think of money while telling his/her story,hence the story becomes "constipated"(word used by Steven King),or corrupted.Marketers have absolutely no reason to be in that area of movie production,no matter how justified they may feel.
A much better deicsion should've been their getting a much tighter rein on their funds and the way it is used.Instead of handling the funds for production of a movie,they could just buy the material and then take over the resource distribution themselves by not only becoming the executive producers,but getting their own man to be the production manager who will keep a hawk eye on the way their money is being spent during productions.
Which means that all they have to do is just employ the producer,pay him a fee,and let him get on with the creative part of the production without having to put the budget money in his hands to misuse.
Ofcourse,production costs will crash,when business is not conducted in an organized and disciplined manner.I am very well aware how these marketers were going behind the scene to undermine each other by trying the foulest means to pry away a hot star from a set, to do their own production.
The marketers themselves caused the production costs -especially the stars fees- to skyrocket by refusing to look for new talents and overusing the established ones.I put the blame here fully on their shoulders.
Marketers should deal with the head and the tail end of the production chain(financing and marketing) and leave the middle part(creative part) to the guys who are trained for it.
Nollywood will advance more rapidly only if they can concentrate their effort in improving their financing structures and strategies,and distribution/marketing end,and leave the storytelling to the guys who know how.
They can't do everything by themselves and expect things to be great.
My guy, try small to at least grasp wetin RUDEBOY dey talk!... This has nothing to do with you or WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
Well stated Vince
They can't do everything by themselves and expect things to be great !
((((The worst part is they are not doing what they should be doing and trying to do what they shouldn't be doing )))) ! smokin:
Ejike Asiegbu is the man!!! Way to go condeming the marketers....what's the whole senario about anyway....but, in oder to be an actor-experience is key...which would mean accepting several diffferent roles to get your voice heard. Markerters are just angry that they are not capitalizing from each actor...that's possiblly the truth of the matter which I think is highly absurd...these marketers are the one's who are about to ruin the nollywood industry...what's with the stupidness folks???
Word from Nigeria is that one of the stars who just returned from the ban just gave a marketer a thorough beating on set. That in itself speaks for volumes. Who would want to take all this for 400,000. Nobody is ever happy to be treated like a slave. I don't know where we are heading but it does not look good for our industry.
Growing pains,poms.Everybody will be learning as things move on.The marketers will learn the hard way,that things cannot be run the way they are running them right now,and there are needs for changes.
The marketers should stick to what they are really good at,and that is marketing and financing.If they can put a lot more of their energy in improving their distribution networks,instead of getting bogged down with productions of homvies(which they know nothing about in the first place),they will be able to generate bigger profit margins,thereby able to pay the stars the kind of fees that they deserve.
The audience are out there,and the marketers just need to fashion out much more effective ways to reach them,their livingrooms and ultimately their wallets.
The industry cannot function if there is no mutual respect between the players within the entire chain.
I hope people learn fast for the sake of the industry.
This is what i love an insider telilng the nitty gritty. so in other words the guild betrayed their own.