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vince

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#21
Originally posted by mamarita
Sweetheart, they don't MEMORIZE their lines!!!!! Common now, its impossible, 4 scripts a month, thats like over 210X4 pages of brouhaha to cram, times 2 for those that come with part two.
Believe me,dear,they don't have that much pages to memorize,even with 4 scripts,since an actor can't be in every scene of a script.
 

Sola

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#22
Originally posted by vince
Believe me,dear,they don't have that much pages to memorize,even with 4 scripts,since an actor can't be in every scene of a script.
What is acting if you can't mrmotize lines? That's what you're paid to do. You HAVE to.
 

mamarita

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#23
Originally posted by vince
Believe me,dear,they don't have that much pages to memorize,even with 4 scripts,since an actor can't be in every scene of a script.
Yeah but I am telling you the average mind cannot memorize that many words in less than a week. Its just impossible, I mean the script is there, you read it and have an idea of what the story is and who your character is and if there are specific words you're supposed to get right, you'll be told to say it!!!!!!!

Why else do you think weekly sitcoms last for only 20 minutes?
 
#24
Originally posted by mamarita
Yeah but I am telling you the average mind cannot memorize that many words in less than a week. Its just impossible, I mean the script is there, you read it and have an idea of what the story is and who your character is and if there are specific words you're supposed to get right, you'll be told to say it!!!!!!!

Why else do you think weekly sitcoms last for only 20 minutes?
... Even if they don't have to memorize their lines, I think that if they can't speak the language fluently their pronunciation might be off majority of times. And since they are making these movies in such a short period of time, no one will have the patience to be correcting them all the time
 

Sola

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#25
Originally posted by mamarita
Yeah but I am telling you the average mind cannot memorize that many words in less than a week. Its just impossible, I mean the script is there, you read it and have an idea of what the story is and who your character is and if there are specific words you're supposed to get right, you'll be told to say it!!!!!!!

Why else do you think weekly sitcoms last for only 20 minutes?
Good thing you're not coming into the industry. Right on location, scripts will be rewritten to fit maybe some changes, and you have to learn it right there in addition to all you have been learning - and then deliver all flawlessly. You think they make all that money easy? You work kiddo!

Its even easy in the movies because you can make mistakes and they will reshoot the scene until they get it right. On stage, you have to perform it live - although last minute changes are only made in critical situations.

If you want to act, develop a keen memory. It only takes training. :D
 

Sola

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#26
The yoruba actors are the ones who work with a storyline and create there own lines. That is why there is always confusion on set. No one knows where to stop so the other person begins.

Why do you think we have scriptwriters then?

In soaps, you still learn the exact words, NOT the idea. Why? Because words are written in certain ways to have certain effects. Soaps only feature stars in like 3 scenes per episode, so it is easy to learn daily. Very easy.
 

mamarita

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#27
Originally posted by Sola
Good thing you're not coming into the industry. Right on location, scripts will be rewritten to fit maybe some changes, and you have to learn it right there in addition to all you have been learning - and then deliver all flawlessly. You think they make all that money easy? You work kiddo!

Its even easy in the movies because you can make mistakes and they will reshoot the scene until they get it right. On stage, you have to perform it live - although last minute changes are only made in critical situations.

If you want to act, develop a keen memory. It only takes training. :D
I still do not agree with you, I've been in two movies done in Nigeria, the first one, I didn't actually see the script, I was picked and told what to do, no one as little as corrected my wording.

I know stage plays you have know your lines and thats why theatre arts is taught in school, and the play runs over a period of time, and the actors are made to practise, so the words stick.
 

mamarita

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#28
Originally posted by Sola
The yoruba actors are the ones who work with a storyline and create there own lines. That is why there is always confusion on set. No one knows where to stop so the other person begins.

Why do you think we have scriptwriters then?

In soaps, you still learn the exact words, NOT the idea. Why? Because words are written in certain ways to have certain effects. Soaps only feature stars in like 3 scenes per episode, so it is easy to learn daily. Very easy.
Lets not argue, lets agree to disagree, you just said soap stars have less work to study, why? Because every sane person that went through some form of education in The ARTS knows that it's impossible to memorize so many lines in such a short time.

The scriptwriters write, the actors read, and have an idea of what they're supposed to say but SENTENCE FOR SENTENCE, totally impossicant. I know you have experience and insist on seeing it first hand but lets be real, back then not so many movies were being created in such a short time
 

Sola

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#29
Originally posted by mamarita
I still do not agree with you, I've been in two movies done in Nigeria, the first one, I didn't actually see the script, I was picked and told what to do, no one as little as corrected my wording.

I know stage plays you have know your lines and thats why theatre arts is taught in school, and the play runs over a period of time, and the actors are made to practise, so the words stick.
Ah, you think film actor don't rehearse! Okay, I understand now. Got a lot to learn kid.

As for your role, it is called waka-pass. You get no script cos you have no lines. Or not critical enough for a script. :D
 

Sola

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#30
Originally posted by mamarita
Lets not argue, lets agree to disagree, you just said soap stars have less work to study, why? Because every sane person that went through some form of education in The ARTS knows that it's impossible to memorize so many lines in such a short time.

The scriptwriters write, the actors read, and have an idea of what they're supposed to say but SENTENCE FOR SENTENCE, totally impossicant. I know you have experience and insist on seeing it first hand but lets be real, back then not so many movies were being created in such a short time
Ok kid. Believe what you want. Time is on my side...:D
 

vince

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#31
Originally posted by Sola
What is acting if you can't mrmotize lines? That's what you're paid to do. You HAVE to.
I'm not saying that actors don't memorize,i'm just trying to set mamarita straight that they don't have so many pages and so many lines to memorize since no actor can be in every page and every scene in a script.
So the volume of lines that they have to cram is not as great as mamarita is thinking.
It all depends on how many scenes are shot per day and how dialogue laden the scenes are.
But i still believe that an actor/actress don't have to speak perfect english to be able to say his/her lines in english movies.
I don't think cramming or memorizing ability is the issue here.
 

mamarita

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#32
Originally posted by Sola
Ah, you think film actor don't rehearse! Okay, I understand now. Got a lot to learn kid.

As for your role, it is called waka-pass. You get no script cos you have no lines. Or not critical enough for a script. :D
Of course they rehearse before they shoot but not as much as the stage actors do, I mean for videos a mistake is as easy as saying CUT!!!!!! But when performing LIVE there's no such thing as oh sorry I forgot my line.


LOL!!!!! I had lines I read d script while watching the first cut of the movie, funny enough I was written into the script somehow;)
 

mamarita

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#33
Originally posted by vince
I'm not saying that actors don't memorize,i'm just trying to set mamarita straight that they don't have so many pages and so many lines to memorize since no actor can be in every page and every scene in a script.
So the volume of lines that they have to cram is not as great as mamarita is thinking.
It all depends on how many scenes are shot per day and how dialogue laden the scenes are.
But i still believe that an actor/actress don't have to speak perfect english to be able to say his/her lines in english movies.
I don't think cramming or memorizing ability is the issue here.
Vincent, you make it seem like a five page dialogue is that easy to memorize.

And I have had d priviledge of being in a french rendition of the birth of Jesus, when i didn't know vien meant come, and learning the lines wasn't even the beginning of my problems, mixing them up and wrong pronounciation.

And to illustrate my point, watch GREEN SNAKE, Aluwe played a rich Igbo man, and his english was a total apology, if my English prof heard him, he'd have died of a heart attack.
 

Sola

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#34
Originally posted by mamarita
Of course they rehearse before they shoot but not as much as the stage actors do, I mean for videos a mistake is as easy as saying CUT!!!!!! But when performing LIVE there's no such thing as oh sorry I forgot my line.

LOL!!!!! I had lines I read d script while watching the first cut of the movie, funny enough I was written into the script somehow;)
I thought we had agreed to disagree? It is possible that you have been going to the wrong set where you have been shown the wrong approach to things that is responsible for all the junk out there. Solid movies have scripts that actors have to learn and rehearse before recording, on set and at home. It is the same thing anywhere in the world - soap opera or not. Read where Damasus was saying her husband helped her with rehearsals in front of the mirror.

So, we agree to disagree, right? I rest my case. You really don't have to accept. :D
 

vince

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#35
Originally posted by mamarita
Vincent, you make it seem like a five page dialogue is that easy to memorize.

And I have had d priviledge of being in a french rendition of the birth of Jesus, when i didn't know vien meant come, and learning the lines wasn't even the beginning of my problems, mixing them up and wrong pronounciation.

And to illustrate my point, watch GREEN SNAKE, Aluwe played a rich Igbo man, and his english was a total apology, if my English prof heard him, he'd have died of a heart attack.
Well it all depends on how "wordy" and difficult the lines are.
Actually film scripts are supposed to have simple easy dialogues.They are supposed to be scanty too,since scripts are more about telling stories through actions than dialogues.
 

mamarita

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#36
Originally posted by Sola
I thought we had agreed to disagree? It is possible that you have been going to the wrong set where you have been shown the wrong approach to things that is responsible for all the junk out there. Solid movies have scripts that actors have to learn and rehearse before recording, on set and at home. It is the same thing anywhere in the world - soap opera or not. Read where Damasus was saying her husband helped her with rehearsals in front of the mirror.

So, we agree to disagree, right? I rest my case. You really don't have to accept. :D
I didn't say they didn't have to rehearse!!! Maybe I might have said that but I really didn't mean it, I'm just saying they don't have that much time to rehearse like those performing in front of a live audience. I mean those people practise for at least 6 months, whereas a movie that has a production span of one month can't rehearse for more than 3 weeks because the last week is for shooting!!!!!!!!!!!!

How come no one ever wants to disagree to agree?
 

mamarita

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#37
Originally posted by vince
Well it all depends on how "wordy" and difficult the lines are.
Actually film scripts are supposed to have simple easy dialogues.They are supposed to be scanty too,since scripts are more about telling stories through actions than dialogues.
I guess am thinking shakespeare.

"ALL THE WORLD IS A STAGE, AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN MERELY PLAYERS.
THEY HAVE THEIR ENTRANCES AND THEIR EXITS AND EACH MAN IN HIS TIME PLAYS MANY PARTS
HIS ACTS BEING SEVEN AGES"
 

Sola

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#38
Originally posted by mamarita
I'm just saying they don't have that much time to rehearse like those performing in front of a live audience. I mean those people practise for at least 6 months, whereas a movie that has a production span of one month can't rehearse for more than 3 weeks because the last week is for shooting!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course. I thought that was obvious!
 
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