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Buhari: Tinubu Sold South West Votes To PDP

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NTB

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There is a country's constitution and a party's agreement to power sharing. Jonathan contested under the PDP umbrella and agreed to its manifesto.

Power sharing, although not democratic, it was a necessary evil in our country's politics because of our make-up. It is patriotic to see Nigeria as one but the true fact is that we are first and foremost a Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Ijaw, Ibibio et al. Stating this fact does not reduce us to being bigots or prejudiced, it just is what it is. The UK currently is made up of three different countries and a scottish man would eagerly tell you that he is Scottish and would only identify himself as British only for nationality purposes. My point is that Nigeria, constituting three major countries is a very difficult nation to preside over and without agreements such as rotation of power, it is hard not to see developments of ethnic motivated uprising.

By Jonathan backing out on his own agreement, the issue of ethnic divide which we have been able to subdue has now come to the fore and it can only get worse from now. The crack is so wide now, it cannot be patched.

Write this day down. Come 2015 or 2019, if the Igbos do not get to power, I foresee another civil war. Had Jonathan kept to the agreement, the Hausas and Yorubas would have been more than happy to vote an Igbo man but now, because of the backing the Igbos have given the Ijaw man, it can be seen that the Igbos are now using their term.
Do you have a link to the power structure cause is not my PDP Constitution, Bye-laws or International Guideline.

Link to Constitution of Nigeria

Link to PDP Constitution
 

Sola

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#42
Write this day down. Come 2015 or 2019, if the Igbos do not get to power, I foresee another civil war. Had Jonathan kept to the agreement, the Hausas and Yorubas would have been more than happy to vote an Igbo man but now, because of the backing the Igbos have given the Ijaw man, it can be seen that the Igbos are now using their term.
Doomsayer, you sef don begin extend reality like NTB? Dat ya crystalball get smudge o. I don't subscribe to the above!
 

NTB

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#43
Wow! Thank you for the revelation o. Since I am married to an Ijaw woman, I don become Igbo by extension!:bouncy I hope you asked the Ijaws first before making this declaration o!
The Ijaws are IGBO'S and speak a different dialect of the Igbo language. Ijaw people are from Bayelsa, Delta, and Rivers States within the Niger Delta in Nigeria. Where is Niger Delta? Ijaw people can be found in Akwa-Ibom, Edo, and Ondo but they all from Niger Delta their ancestral / indigenous home.

Igbo by extension no problem we have big hbeat: to accommodate
 
#44
The Ijaws are IGBO'S and speak a different dialect of the Igbo language. Ijaw people are from Bayelsa, Delta, and Rivers States within the Niger Delta in Nigeria. Where is Niger Delta? Ijaw people can be found in Akwa-Ibom, Edo, and Ondo but they all from Niger Delta their ancestral / indigenous home.
:roll :roll :roll

I sincerely hope that this idea you have is a fringe one and not a mainstream Igbo claim. Na wahala u dey find so o. SS and SE are not the same thing o - at least not in the Naija sense. Don't go making that claim in public - I doubt that Ijaws would find it funny. Its kinda like saying that the Benue man is Hausa. Hmmmm!!
 

Irinajoeda

OPOMULERO MOJALEKAN
#45
We know how he got the name Azikiwe. His birth certificate reads Goodluck Ebele Jonathan (GEJ)or are you going to ask for a copy of it :laugh: The Ijaws are IGBO'S and speak a different dialect of the Igbo language. Ijaw people are from Bayelsa, Delta, and Rivers States within the Niger Delta in Nigeria. Where is Niger Delta
Ijaw people can be found in Akwa-Ibom, Edo, and Ondo but they all from Niger Delta their indigenous home.
Oh no you didn't just say that! Lol...

The Ijaws have no ancestral relationship whatsoever to the Igbos and with that comment you have proved that Nigeria has done terribly when it comes to educating its people about the ethnic groups that make Nigeria. For your own safety, please don't say this in the midst of Ijaws or any South southerner. Perhaps if you had said that the Ikweres are Igbos, I would have forgiven you but even the Ikwerres detest been called Igbos.

Ijaws are in no way affilated to Igbos. It's like Yorubas claiming Itshekiris because they have Yoruba lineage.

Due to the erroneous comment about Ijaws being Igbos, I cease to entertain your responses as it is glaring that you are deficient in the topic of ethnic origins in the country called Nigeria.
 
#46
:roll :roll :roll

I sincerely hope that this idea you have is a fringe one and not a mainstream Igbo claim. Na wahala u dey find so o. SS and SE are not the same thing o - at least not in the Naija sense. Don't go making that claim in public - I doubt that Ijaws would find it funny. Its kinda like saying that the Benue man is Hausa. Hmmmm!!
My Uncle a Benue man took offense to being called an Hausa man. I was just looking at him with blank stare as he proceeded with a 2 hour lecture
 

Irinajoeda

OPOMULERO MOJALEKAN
#47
Doomsayer, you sef don begin extend reality like NTB? Dat ya crystalball get smudge o. I don't subscribe to the above!
I don't subscribe to violence either, it's a terrible thing and as much as I would like to pray against it, the writing is already on the wall. I am not a doomsayer but a realist.
 

wendydoks

Well-Known Member
#48
God bless you! Fact - an Igbo man would never vote a Yoruba man into presidency because they believe that they were betrayed by Awolowo. Our greatest allies were the Hausas. An Ibo man can not in a million years be voted president either because a Yoruba man would not leave his own to vote an Igbo and Hausas detest the Igbos, they only have the SS to align with and we know that the SS people don't trust the Igbos either. Right now, Nigeria hasn't been more divided and the earlier we go our separate ways the better. We cannot continue to force this marriage.
tribalistic much. what an insight.
 

wendydoks

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#49
As I have made clear elsewhere, I can't stand Jonathan. I co-sign with Irin that he is directionless. He just drifts to and fro and if he had any promise of doing anything, we should have seen an inkling of it in the last one year. I suspect he's going to waste the next four years of our nationhood. He also lacks integrity for not abiding by the known arrangement they had with the North. It was the North's time to complete another four years (Buhari or Ribadu could have filled that quota) and this will create problems for everyone in future when he would be done stealing whatever's left in the coffers with his gang of unthinking clowns. What did he even do about all the riots and killings in the last one year? Let him prove me wrong and do something.

But he's won this one, however he did it.
how ridiculous. what makes buhari and ribadu better candidates? because they are northerners? thats it? i swear somethings pple say sha. smh
 

wendydoks

Well-Known Member
#51
There is a country's constitution and a party's agreement to power sharing. Jonathan contested under the PDP umbrella and agreed to its manifesto.

Power sharing, although not democratic, it was a necessary evil in our country's politics because of our make-up. It is patriotic to see Nigeria as one but the true fact is that we are first and foremost a Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Ijaw, Ibibio et al. Stating this fact does not reduce us to being bigots or prejudiced, it just is what it is. The UK currently is made up of three different countries and a scottish man would eagerly tell you that he is Scottish and would only identify himself as British only for nationality purposes. My point is that Nigeria, constituting three major countries is a very difficult nation to preside over and without agreements such as rotation of power, it is hard not to see developments of ethnic motivated uprising.

By Jonathan backing out on his own agreement, the issue of ethnic divide which we have been able to subdue has now come to the fore and it can only get worse from now. The crack is so wide now, it cannot be patched.

Write this day down. Come 2015 or 2019, if the Igbos do not get to power, I foresee another civil war. Had Jonathan kept to the agreement, the Hausas and Yorubas would have been more than happy to vote an Igbo man but now, because of the backing the Igbos have given the Ijaw man, it can be seen that the Igbos are now using their term.
when did this happen?
 

Sola

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#53
how ridiculous. what makes buhari and ribadu better candidates?
Who said they were? They haven't been tested by fire though, unlike your man. At least, they can't be worse than he has proven himself to be, but that's probably beyond your level of thinking.
 

wendydoks

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#55
Who said they were? They haven't been tested by fire though, unlike your man. At least, they can't be worse than he has proven himself to be, but that's probably beyond your level of thinking.
you just did. and for ya info, buhari was once the president of naija and he did nothing during his time. yet you come here to whine about GEJ and his beard getting burned by fire. hate it or love it, GEJ is now your president. when 2015 comes, we will face it. so much ado about nothing. its time for change. deal with it!
 

Irinajoeda

OPOMULERO MOJALEKAN
#56
While we were sleeping sweat:
A lot happened when you were sleeping in class, dear, otherwise you would have known that Ijaws and Igbos are not related in any way, shape or form.

I actually thought you were going to rebuff my assertions. You found out that you were wrong, didn't you? It's okay, you're allowed to save face.
 

Irinajoeda

OPOMULERO MOJALEKAN
#57
when did this happen?
Igbos are a nation, had they successfully seceded, they would have been known as Biafrans. Yorubas together with those in Benin are a nation. Hausas are a nation. The British forced us together. There is no reason why Yorubas shouldn't be with their brothers from Benin or the Igbos with their brothers from Cameroun or even the Hausa with their brothers from Niger. Why fragment these nations and force them together when they have more in common with those in these mentioned areas than they do in the current Oyinbo made nation?

Just because we are Nigerians doesn't mean we have similar cultural values o.
 

wendydoks

Well-Known Member
#59
Igbos are a nation, had they successfully seceded, they would have been known as Biafrans. Yorubas together with those in Benin are a nation. Hausas are a nation. The British forced us together. There is no reason why Yorubas shouldn't be with their brothers from Benin or the Igbos with their brothers from Cameroun or even the Hausa with their brothers from Niger. Why fragment these nations and force them together when they have more in common with those in these mentioned areas than they do in the current Oyinbo made nation?

Just because we are Nigerians doesn't mean we have similar cultural values o.
so why didnt biafra succeed? yorubas aided the hausas to see that it didnt actualize. you had the chance to become a nation but blew it due to what? how do u xplain that?
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
#60
I truly fear for Nigeria under GEJ. I truly fear. I see all the maggots and ills and tensions that have been bubbling under all these years now coming to the surface!

there were bombs since the days of Dele Giwa, how come it was right under GEJ's nose, and in an election year that bombS are killing Nigerians everywhere and the dude could NOT even quench Jos fire!!! naw kaduna is right under again!!

have you seen the images on facebook of dead bodies cut in half in Kaduna state? is that what GEJ is coming to rule? Abi, his witch covens tell am to deliver blood for the seat in Aso Rock?

Just saw this on Nairaland now sef:

BEHOLD, YOUR PRESIDENT!

G.E.J. UNMASKED
« on: February 27, 2011, 01:17 PM »
I read this masterpiece regarding the state of things in our country and decided to share this with Beaf!!

To begin, politicians in their natural and constructed elements are master deceivers. Whether in America or Europe they are all the same. They deceive you and make you see what they want you to see. Goodluck Jonathan is a good apostle of this doctrine. A critical look at the events in the country would demonstrate the truth of this assertion. The Jonathan I know presents the very opposite of what he preaches, revealing a man of two
personalities.

Goodluck Jonathan will promise to secure Nigerians and make security his priority, but the real Jonathan will spare no life in achieving his personal ambition. The story of the massacre in Jos is an excellent illustration of this attitude. His friend and co-conspirator Timi Alaibe is having it rough in Bayelsa State while Jonathan pretends to be deaf and dumb. He is not unaware of what his protégé, Governor Timpre Sylva, is doing with executive power, but Jonathan deceives his friend, Alaibe, that he is supporting him. If Jonathan cannot stop bombs in Bayelsa, his own state, what happens to the rest of the 35 states and Abuja?

The real Jonathan looks for people to use and do his bidding because of his lack of capacity and ability. I have read many people describing him as very humble and very quiet. On the surface, he exudes these characteristics, but it is all part of a game of pretending to be a listening man. It is part of his weapons to disarm and destroy. Aristotle in his wisdom wrote that humility is a vice while pride is a virtue. If you have a reason to be proud having accomplished a great feat, what is wrong with that? And if you have nothing to be proud of, why would you not be humble? Jonathan’s sense of humility is a fake custody of weakness and lack of enlightenment.

As the second in command to DSP Alamieyeseigha and Umaru Musa Yar’adua, Jonathan used this weapon in dislodging and capsizing them at the nick of opportunity. The rest is history. He presented the image of a humble man for a long time, but when the time came to show real loyalty, he betrayed DSP and sold him to former President Obasanjo and was adequately compensated for his treachery.

I am sure DSP himself is not aware of the role his humble and loyal deputy played in his impeachment. They say it is politics. Today, because of the craft of Jonathan, the Ijaw nation has been decimated, decapitated and made powerless and subdued. The experience of the Okerenkoko and Ayakorama peoples illustrates Jonathan’s perfidy. You wonder if Jonathan is really an Ijaw man.

Any attempt to completely unmask Jonathan would be impossible since the man is more crafty and wily than former General Ibrahim Babangida, the Maradona of Nigeria, more brutal than OBJ, more political than Atiku and more slippery than Machiavelli’s prince. The same people he dribbled over the zoning palaver, he is romancing. This is his trademark. For instance, my sources in Bayelsa revealed that when he was appointed vice to Yar’adua in 2007, he nominated one Francis Doukpolagha who came third in the primary to replace him. But he watched as his political organization, the ‘Green Movement,’ tore the man to shreds until OBJ dropped him. I am sure Doukpolagha is still in shock. The truth is that he simply deceived Ijaw people into believing he loves them. His then deputy, Peremobowei Ebebi, and his then Secretary to the State Government, Godknows Igali, can tell more about these antics. The humble and quiet Jonathan finally accepted Sylva when OBJ settled for his archrival, Timi Alaibe. And while Bayelsa people are ruing Sylva’s misrule and lack of direction and preparing for a change in 2011, Jonathan was comfortable to re-present Sylva.

To get the PDP ticket in 2006, Jonathan was ready to do anything and everything to please his godfather. He thus left a big hole in Bayelsa finances when he left in 2007. Sylva attempted to spill the beans, but was immediately called to order—and his then political adviser, George Fente, was sacrificed as he lost his position when Jonathan reached a truce with the governor. What a lot of people did not know was that, while DSP was being prosecuted, Jonathan was only marking time for his turn. However, in a deft move, he was able to use this weakness to negotiate his survival. He became governor, funded the PDP fully, and massaged the OBJ ego well, including funding and supporting third term. He became Nigeria’s paymaster to all and sundry, including actors and show businessmen, at the expense of development in Bayelsa. Today there is no project that carries Jonathan’s signature. Ask EFCC and Ribadu for Jonathan’s file. It has disappeared.

In his typical element, Jonathan is nothing but an opportunist. But some may retort, are we not all opportunists? Is it not the nature of man? This may be true. The only concern and imperative is that those who wish to be in public service and hold public office must exhibit great character and acumen. Being an opportunist is not one of them. Those who wish to lead must be above board. Not that they must be infallible, but they must be men of integrity and high intellect.

Some people make a big deal of his doctoral degree. I laugh. What is the connection between having a PhD in Hydrobiology and leading a society of 150 million people? None. The man simply lacks an iota of idea on how to run a clan much less a multi-ethnic and highly complex society. Jonathan does not read. He has no knowledge of political philosophy or ideology. He knows nothing about the principles of justice and political stability—two areas of urgent need in Nigeria.

It is typical of a ruler of Jonathan’s ilk to adopt all Machiavellian tactics he can muster including pretending to be very religious. See him going to churches and kneeling down to be prayed for. What a sacrilege! He knows that the organization he and his godfather belong to is antithetical to Christianity. Ask the Olowu of Owu and Alake of Egbaland to explain Jonathan’s position in their “kingdoms.”

He had decided that the game must be played according to their gospel of deception. There are collaborators along the line, to ensure that people are fooled. Those who know Jonathan well would tell you he has so much disdain and contempt for Pentecostals and would only be ready to do business with them when it would enhance his personal political interest.
Part of the deceptive arsenal of this President is the campaign of freshness and fresh air. Interesting, is it not? It’s like saying that IBB, Atiku, Anenih, Ahmadu Ali, Arthur Nzeribe, Ojukwu, Nnamani, and the like are the fresh air Nigeria needs. The people who cried themselves hoarse over zoning and Northern presidency are the same people falling for his pretence for rapprochement. He has so bamboozled these political zombies that they believe they can enter into an agreement with him to do only one term and return power to them. The man must have abundant political charm and charisma to be able to manipulate all these politicians, but I believe it is more than that. The witches and wizards that worked with him against Atiku would be smiling to the bank now.

Meanwhile, history has shown that you cannot deceive the people all the time as Mubarak, Ben Ali and Gaddafi can testify. The funny thing about deception is that it ends up deceiving the deceiver himself. Nigerians are beginning to see the fruits of deception. After ten months as president of Nigeria, Jonathan has no clue where the country is going and has spent all his time buying support—just as the colonial masters did in the client-master type of politics. The economy is comatose, there is no safety of life and property, and the ship of state is stinking and sinking.

Nigerians must brace to the fact that Jonathan’s presidency is first and foremost to promote and protect the political and economic fortunes of his political group within and outside the PDP. Nigerians must not be deceived into believing that Jonathan is popular. He pays any amount even if it means borrowing to buy support to get political power. And then he gets lost on what to do with the power. He over patronized a section of the media so much so that we hardly know the truth from propaganda, as Nigeria has become a commodity for the highest bidder—and nobody wants to be on the losing side. People today flow to Jonathan because that is where the money is. They forget that the structural-functionalist nature of society makes all members of society victims of wrong leadership, whether they like it or not.

Our president needs to come clean with Nigerians on his weaknesses and allow those with the character and spirit to take the country out of the woods. His confessions to the Americans last year, according to Wikileaks, represent the true portrait of the real Jonathan—timid, fearful, weak and opportunistic.

Those who want to take power from Jonathan must know that those who misunderstand the real meaning of power and end up abusing power will never let it go without a fight. Think about it: If Jonathan leaves power today, where does he go, the classroom or business? Neither. He is therefore on a suicide mission that simply translates to: It is either I win or I die. It is a variant of his godfather’s do-or-die politics.

From now on, Nigerians must begin to organize and mobilize for change whether Jonathan wins or not. If nothing is done by the masses and if there is no signal of an impending catastrophe in the form of a people’s resistance, the PDP will rig and damn the consequence. They will argue that the courts are there for electoral disputes. And while that is going on, the settlement scheme introduced by his mentor and good friend IBB would be unleashed.

Compared to such peers as Malaysia, India, and Brazil, Nigeria has drifted far away from the mark. As the father of the late Umaru Musa Yar’dua said in the First Republic, while the world is running towards the North, Nigeria is running fast towards the South, obviously in the wrong direction. With Jonathan as president, Nigeria will continue to go southward—at dizzying speed.

Author- Adaka Oboro Anda
Nigeria NEEDS prayers and A MIRACLE!! Hoping GEJ does not metamorphose into another Idi Amin tomorrow!
 
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