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Buhari: Tinubu Sold South West Votes To PDP

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Irinajoeda

OPOMULERO MOJALEKAN
#61
so why didnt biafra succeed? yorubas aided the hausas to see that it didnt actualize. you had the chance to become a nation but blew it due to what? how do u xplain that?
This is where you educate me about the Igbos being betrayed by Awolowo, is it? I would accord you due sensitivity to this issue as I presume you are of the Igbo extract and that the civil war is still a very tetchy subject for you. I wasn't alive nor was I close to being born during the civil war but I have read about it.

I also know that Azikiwe agitated for the formation of Nigeria even though Awolowo and Balewa were against it. The same Igbos who pressed for the marriage were now the ones who wished to secede.

Anyway, my response to you wasn't about why Nigerians didn't let Biafra go but to clarify my opinion of why Nigeria constitutes of three countries.
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
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Re: G.e.j Unmasked!
« #6 on: February 27, 2011, 06:57 PM »
very accurate analysis of Goodluck Jonathan, i have said time and time again that this man winning the presidential elections come April will accelerate nigeria's downward spiral, the man is morally and intellectually unqualified to lead nigeria and has shown since his undeserved ascension to office of president to be way out of his depth.
hah! this person dey see vision!
 

wendydoks

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#64
This is where you educate me about the Igbos being betrayed by Awolowo, is it? I would accord you due sensitivity to this issue as I presume you are of the Igbo extract and that the civil war is still a very tetchy subject for you. I wasn't alive nor was I close to being born during the civil war but I have read about it.

I also know that Azikiwe agitated for the formation of Nigeria even though Awolowo and Balewa were against it. The same Igbos who pressed for the marriage were now the ones who wished to secede.Anyway, my response to you wasn't about why Nigerians didn't let Biafra go but to clarify my opinion of why Nigeria constitutes of three countries.
the Igbos were the last ethnic group to threaten a separation. the hausas were the 1st then the yorubas. The Igbos only ACTED on it for justifiable reasons. the bloody and non stop massacre that even the fed. gov. encouraged. that was the ONLY reason we wanted to secede. the igbos, more than any other ethnic group, wanted a one naija nation and actually practiced it...and still do.

anyways, i dnt wanna get into that. just wanted to clear that misconception of yours.
 

chi

Well-Known Member
#67
For some reason, our northern Nigerian brethren think the presidency of Nigeria should be theirs for the asking.
This isn’t about the north or south ….. it should be about who can deliver the goods ...... with the happenings in the past few years it’s very obvious that Jonathan can’t do much for that country .... .... although I heard his friendly, a nice person but that’s not what we want to see …. It’s so sad that Nigeria is fast becoming a one party system
 

chi

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- an Igbo man would never vote a Yoruba man into presidency because they believe that they were betrayed by Awolowo. Our greatest allies were the Hausas. An Ibo man can not in a million years be voted president either because a Yoruba man would not leave his own to vote an Igbo and Hausas detest the Igbos, they only have the SS to align with and we know that the SS people don't trust the Igbos either. Right now, Nigeria hasn't been more divided and the earlier we go our separate ways the better. We cannot continue to force this marriage.
I don't think you are right the igbos voted immensely for Abiola and even for Obansanjo the igbo's were ready to go with a Yoruba man than an hausa man …… Obasanjo even lost in his own state …....... you know you can make good points but sometimes you are so warped up with this igbo / Yoruba thing ...... and that makes it hard for people to believe that you are unbiased
 

chi

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#69
. He just drifts to and fro and if he had any promise of doing anything, we should have seen an inkling of it in the last one year. I suspect he's going to waste the next four years of our nationhood. He also lacks integrity for not abiding by the known arrangement they had with the North. It was the North's time to complete another four years (Buhari or Ribadu could have filled that quota) and this will create problems for everyone in future when he would be done stealing whatever's left in the coffers with his gang of unthinking clowns.

But he's won this one, however he did it.
even if it were the northerners time to rule .......buhari and ribadu will still not have gotten that slot .......because IBB or Atiku would have clinched to the party's ticket and I will rather deal with a smaller crook than anything IBB or Atiku

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What did he even do about all the riots and killings in the last one year? Let him prove me wrong and do something.
you really want to know what he did ..... he called a press conference and announced that anybody that wants to kill should not use his name .....in other words they can kill but his name should not be mentioned ......:laugh:............... ....what a clown president
 

chi

Well-Known Member
#70
how ridiculous. what makes buhari and ribadu better candidates? because they are northerners? thats it? i swear somethings pple say sha. smh
buhari still remains one of the best head of state that Nigeria had …..in his time there were visible achievement.... we saw corruption drop …. there were no strikes …. the roads were worked on , there was security our debts were almost being paid off until IBB came in .......we are yet to recover
 

chi

Well-Known Member
#71
The Ijaws are IGBO'S and speak a different dialect of the Igbo language. Ijaw people are from Bayelsa, Delta, and Rivers States within the Niger Delta in Nigeria. Where is Niger Delta?

Ijaw people can be found in Akwa-Ibom, Edo, and Ondo but they all from Niger Delta their indigenous home.
Ah NTN …. THE IJAWS ARE NOT IGBOs …..
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
#72
I don't think you are right the igbos voted immensely for Abiola and even for Obansanjo the igbo's were ready to go with a Yoruba man than an hausa man …… Obasanjo even lost in his own state …....... you know you can make good points but sometimes you are so warped up with this igbo / Yoruba thing ...... and that makes it hard for people to believe that you are unbiased
Very true.
I VOTED for Abiola! the focus should be who would deliver Nigeria abeg. NOT what tribe!

Sad to say, I would have preferred Ribadu to win, over Jonathan! if I had a voter's card, i would have voted Ribadu!
Jonathan have had all these months to make a change, but HE DID NOT!!!
only God will Bless and protect the next 4 years in Nigeria so that we don't shed more blood in those 4 years than Biafra and the past 40 years combined! smh
 

wendydoks

Well-Known Member
#73
buhari still remains one of the best head of state that Nigeria had …..in his time there were visible achievement.... we saw corruption drop …. there were no strikes …. the roads were worked on , there was security our debts were almost being paid off until IBB came in .......we are yet to recover
what did he do specifically to affect and improve the system and the economy. stop generalizing. those things occured naturally.
 

NTB

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buhari still remains one of the best head of state that Nigeria had …..in his time there were visible achievement.... we saw corruption drop …. there were no strikes …. the roads were worked on , there was security our debts were almost being paid off until IBB came in .......we are yet to recover
I guess Nigerians had amnesia when they voted last Saturday and elected Jonathan as President.
 

oloje

Active Member
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Nigerans went to the polls on saturday to vote Jonathan and not PDP, Jonathan won the South east because the easterners voted based on religion/ ethnicity/ region and who campaigned in their region and made promises to them. Who else would they have voted Buhari or Ribadu. The south west voted Jonathan once the CPC/ ACN alliance failed, the south west was not ready to vote Buhari based on his past records on Sharia which they viewed in the light of religious fundermentalism as well as his record on the PTF project ( as he was certainly biased in favor of the north for the reconstructon of infrastructure) when he was the PTF chair, overshadowing whatever achievements he made as a military head of state. The SW is too intellectual to vote a Ribadu whose candidacy had been tainted by Tinubu and rubbished by the so called alliance, so they went for the next best thing especially as they deem the previous senate/ House of rep election to be free and fair.
the North central/ Middle belters of course have a history of voting who ever they perceive to be the winning candidate in all Naija elections this coupled with the fact that Obasanjo has previously fractured the one time monolithic North, so the middlebelters have dissociated themselves from the core north who they see as those that have been marginalising them for years.

Of course the core north voted massively for Buhari who they see as one of them. The new electoral map in Naija now is win the sw, ss, sE and middle belt and it's over and the Jonathan team did their home work very well by campaigning in places where they were stoned , while some candidates did not even step on part of the SW and almost all the SE. in Nigera of today presidential elections are no longer about wining only the North and a handful of states, every aspirant must reach out to all states irrespectve of their ethnicity and religion. People need to get over the ethnic politcs it is no longer in vogue in Naija, the electorates are more sophisticated than they get credit for evidenced in the Abiola june 12 election.
 

Papino

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Folks,it is unfortunate when we reduce our capacity to analyse and undersand events to, a kaliedoscope of innuendoes.Again,it is a silly season!I am not ready nor willing to tow the "we and them"path in any Nigerian discourse because we have come a long way.The mistakes of the past has conveyed us beyond starting from the scratch hence our condition today.Nation-building is painstaking and gradual.Nigeria is moving forward though on a snail speed!!
The refference of GEJ winning an election that everybody confirmed to be free and fair as a betrayal,beats me beyond words.Lumping the aftermath to include the sell of a birthright is ignorant and contradicts anything we as Nigerians ever believed in.However,opinion is as varied as we all are.My simple answer to what is happening is that the Alex Ekwueme led commisison that intoduced the 6 Geo-Political zones in the Nigerian socio-political lexicon,sneaked in the abracadabra that we are seeing today.The new political map is a reflection of that surgery spear-headed by the Ekwueme commission long ago.We are seeing it now because this is the first one that seem to be a free and fair election after the creation of the 6 geo political zones.
The last saturday presidential elections demonstrated a long standing agitation;that of the former middle belt against the former north,that of the former west against the north,that of the East against the north and that of the north both against itself and against the rest of us.It even gets more interesting when we note that most of the states that voted for GEJ would vote for ACN,ANPP etc in the gubertoral elections which intself tells much.The secret if you ask me is that change is in the air and Nigeria is getting ready to anchor democracy proper.This anchorage is in the induction of "opposition" into the Nigerian embroynic democracy.The president's party would have a majority that is hanging on a cliff and that alone would ensure thorough policy formulation and implementation.
Finally,as bad as Jonathan might be in our books,let us remember that this election happened in his administration.If we agree that it was free and fair,if we agree that the votes counted,then we just agreed that "here is one thing he was able to get right"grinning:
 

NTB

Well-Known Member
#77
Write this day down. Come 2015 or 2019, if the Igbos do not get to power, I foresee another civil war. Had Jonathan kept to the agreement, the Hausas and Yorubas would have been more than happy to vote an Igbo man but now, because of the backing the Igbos have given the Ijaw man, it can be seen that the Igbos are now using their term.
2015 is around the corner and where's Irinajoeda sef?
 
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