Cindy's Notes

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moviewizard

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No, might just be they need an eye doctor! Which kin' overlook are they overlooking? I have copies of SITANDA and WHITE WATERS with no writers! The only visible info: Azizat, OC Ukeje, Izu Ojukwu and Amstel Malt. Ghosts write movies for AMBO.

Thats not true. I have copies of sitanda and white waters. They wrote the names of the writers in the movies, sitanda was written by Emma Anyalogu, RMD and some other guy while White Waters was written by Felix Odion, that i know and can still remmeber vividly, it might not be written on the jacket of the film but its in the credits. well anyways i agree, writers should be given some sort of recognition and not shelved to the back as always.
 

rudeboy

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Thats not true. I have copies of sitanda and white waters. They wrote the names of the writers in the movies, sitanda was written by Emma Anyalogu, RMD and some other guy while White Waters was written by Felix Odion, that i know and can still remmeber vividly, it might not be written on the jacket of the film but its in the credits. well anyways i agree, writers should be given some sort of recognition and not shelved to the back as always.
Trust me, it's true. I'm looking at the copies right here. Ok, I will scan and upload both films jackets in a few hours - front and back - and we'll see, maybe I'm the one whose eyes need examination. Emma Ayalogu is my close friend and it hurts me so much that he is behind most successful screenplays and his name is never mentioned anywhere.

Of course writers names are in the credits but why write directors names and the Malt Drink's names all over the jacket yet find no space for the writer's name? Makes no sense to me. We all know AMSTEL malt is the producer, so why over emphasise it at the detriment of the man or woman whose creativity brought about the production in the first place?

Abeg, when I pick a film I want the writer's name squeezed into a tiny corner at least, and I'm sure a lot of people think the same.
 

takestyle

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Of course writers names are in the credits but why write directors names and the Malt Drink's names all over the jacket yet find no space for the writer's name? Makes no sense to me. We all know AMSTEL malt is the producer, so why over emphasise it at the detriment of the man or woman whose creativity brought about the production in the first place?

Abeg, when I pick a film I want the writer's name squeezed into a tiny corner at least, and I'm sure a lot of people think the same.
i hate to say it, but the truth is that a lot of times, the writer really is not relevant enough to be included on the poster.

you have to remember that the poster serves primarily a promotional purpose; it's there to SELL the movie.

audiences respond to stars, and that's why you see them featured on the poster. audiences have come to recognize the director (rightly or wrongly) as the total "author" of a movie, which is why the director is featured. the producers? that's the overall brand and hence you want to promote that, too.

unless the scenarist has some sort of significant name currency, either as a well-known and screenwriter in the movies (eg Emem Isong) or as a well-regarded literary author (eg Wole Soyinka), then there's not much about the writer that really *sells* the movie.

do you pick up a movie and see "wow... it's written by Unknown Writer X! i have GOT to see it!!"?

sure the writer serves a very important function and it's a shame that writers don't get more kudos, but hey... the editor plays a crucially important role as well... and how often do you see HIM spotlighted on the poster?
 

takestyle

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Vince, they had a national wide script writing contest last year to get this script. So many budding writers sent there stuffs and they narrowed down the scripts to get this one. Now these guys are searching for those truly gifted but rare talents out there. But the funny thing is they are just after promoting the amstel malta brand,yet their stuffs always turn out better than most of the nolly guys.
oh wait... sorry...

so the script came from a contest as well?

okay... in THAT case, i would say that it would make sense to promote the writer in order to promote the contest and further promote the brand.

other than that, though? i don't think it's a big deal not to include the writer if it's not really necessary.
 

moviewizard

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oh wait... sorry...

so the script came from a contest as well?

okay... in THAT case, i would say that it would make sense to promote the writer in order to promote the contest and further promote the brand.

other than that, though? i don't think it's a big deal not to include the writer if it's not really necessary.


The flick was made to promote the reality show winner and the brand,that was the main aim of the flick, the writers talent was also a way to discover fresh writers and showcase their scripts, they already had the winner on the website when he won so if they didnt put his name on the poster now, dunno why....they have their aim and objective. i guess they know best.
 

rudeboy

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i hate to say it, but the truth is that a lot of times, the writer really is not relevant enough to be included on the poster.

you have to remember that the poster serves primarily a promotional purpose; it's there to SELL the movie.

audiences respond to stars, and that's why you see them featured on the poster. audiences have come to recognize the director (rightly or wrongly) as the total "author" of a movie, which is why the director is featured. the producers? that's the overall brand and hence you want to promote that, too.

unless the scenarist has some sort of significant name currency, either as a well-known and screenwriter in the movies (eg Emem Isong) or as a well-regarded literary author (eg Wole Soyinka), then there's not much about the writer that really *sells* the movie.

do you pick up a movie and see "wow... it's written by Unknown Writer X! i have GOT to see it!!"?

sure the writer serves a very important function and it's a shame that writers don't get more kudos, but hey... the editor plays a crucially important role as well... and how often do you see HIM spotlighted on the poster?
Not in Nollywood. Writers sell films in Nollywood. I'm sorry Takestyle, but you don't understand Nollyood. Maybe you are talking Hollywood while I'm talking Nollywood.

Secondly, why would all the spaces in a poster utilized to write the names of producer and his family members? If that is the case, writers names should also be included.

Thirdly, I am not talking about just posters! A whole website of AMBO refuses to show the name of the script writer, and you think that is ok? Now let's go to movie jackets - that is my major annoyance, not even the poster - film writers names appear in most sensible film jackets ever printed in this world, and I see Cindy Notes as sensible: that's is even why I'm raising this riot!
 

takestyle

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The flick was made to promote the reality show winner and the brand,that was the main aim of the flick, the writers talent was also a way to discover fresh writers and showcase their scripts, they already had the winner on the website when he won so if they didnt put his name on the poster now, dunno why....they have their aim and objective. i guess they know best.
i guess it depends on how high-profile the screenwriting contest is... was it as hyped as the acting competition? or was it just a low-profile anciliary?

either way, i think they probably should have tried to include the writer on the poster as part of the reward for winning.

but ultimately, the writer STILL isn't selling the movie as compared to the actor whose face was presumably seen on TV by millions.
 

rudeboy

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unless the scenarist has some sort of significant name currency, either as a well-known and screenwriter in the movies (eg Emem Isong) or as a well-regarded literary author (eg Wole Soyinka), then there's not much about the writer that really *sells* the movie.

do you pick up a movie and see "wow... it's written by Unknown Writer X! i have GOT to see it!!"?
So you think Emem Isong's name would have become such a significant name currency if her name was never included in the films she wrote from day one ?
 

takestyle

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So you think Emem Isong's name would have become such a significant name currency if her name was never included in the films she wrote from day one ?
Emem Isong's name built currency by being included in the credits.... not the posters (more importantly, she built that currency by virtue of the fact that she started producing her scripts herself).

*the credits* is where the various artists and technicians involved in the making of a movie get their due respect.

the poster? it's there for marketing purposes.

if your name or face is not expected to urge a potential viewer to buy the product, what's the point of including you on the poster?

sometimes the writer IS included... but that's more of a courtesy than any kind of necessity.
 

rudeboy

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Emem Isong's name built currency by being included in the credits.... not the posters (more importantly, she built that currency by virtue of the fact that she started producing her scripts herself).

*the credits* is where the various artists and technicians involved in the making of a movie get their due respect.

the poster? it's there for marketing purposes.

if your name or face is not expected to urge a potential viewer to buy the product, what's the point of including you on the poster?

sometimes the writer IS included... but that's more of a courtesy than any kind of necessity.
I may have to believe those who insist you're a bully and want to force your thinking on others. Pls read my posts again, I never said anything about POSTERS! I am talking about movie jackets and websites!!! I see no reason why a film writers name shouldn't appear in these media. Even Vince, Med and MW who are also contributing to the discussion know we are talking about jackets and website! All of a sudden you jump in from nowhere screaming poster and currency and Wole Soyinka! Pls. read the posts and contribute accordingly don't just argue because you know how to speak big big and intimidating English!
 

takestyle

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I may have to believe those who insist you're a bully and want to force your thinking on others. Pls read my posts again, I never said anything about POSTERS! I am talking about movie jackets and websites!!! I see no reason why a film writers name shouldn't appear in these media. Even Vince, Med and MW who are also contributing to the discussion know we are talking about jackets and website! All of a sudden you jump in from nowhere screaming poster and currency and Wole Soyinka! Pls. read the posts and contribute accordingly don't just argue because you know how to speak big big and intimidating English!
look, bro... i don't know anything about this "intimidating" thing. i'm just looking to have a stimulating discussion, but if the fact that i express a different view intimidates you, i don't see why that's my fault.

i'm not "forcing my thinking" on ANYBODY. i express my opinion and i usually try to back it up with a logical explanation for holding that particular point of view.

if you disagree, perhaps a better way of going about it would be to illustrate why my explanation or my reasoning is FLAWED. alternately, you have the option of just simply IGNORING me.

that will probably leave us all happier, i think.

anyway... back to the subject.

posters... movie jackets... websites... it's all the same, really. the poster is usually identical to the movie jacket, and the website? most Nigerian movies don't have websites.

in the case of the AMBO stuff, i said that i thought that they should have promoted the person who won the contest they won... but by and large, audiences do not purchase movies based on who WROTE them.

maybe that is a mistake on the part of the consumers... but you can't blame the producers for that.

besides, it's not the producers' responsibility to promote the writer. if anything, it works AGAINST the producer's interests to give the writer too much power by doing that. so unless the writer's name is going to attract an audience, why give them that extra boost?
 

moviewizard

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i guess it depends on how high-profile the screenwriting contest is... was it as hyped as the acting competition? or was it just a low-profile anciliary?

either way, i think they probably should have tried to include the writer on the poster as part of the reward for winning.

but ultimately, the writer STILL isn't selling the movie as compared to the actor whose face was presumably seen on TV by millions.

The writing contest wasnt as hyped as the acting competition, i never got to know of it till the winners were announced at a public screening, it was a call for entry thing and the winner got to walk away with a cash price and laptop and they showed on network news,nothing compared to the acting show, but hey i think i kind of follow what u say, as far as the writers name is in the opening credits, i see nothing to cry over, my point actually.
 

blackpearl

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Cindy's Notes: Heralding AMBO III Hero Into Nollywood

MW I know that there is a thread about Cindy's notes :cool-smil

Cindy's Notes: Heralding AMBO III Hero Into Nollywood
By Darlington Abuda, REPORTER, Lagos

The evening began with a red carpet cocktail party at the central floor of the Silverbird Galleria. The relaxed atmosphere afforded the guests opportunity to express their views on their expectations of Cindy's Notes. The movie was an affirmation of AMBO's mission, which was a venture that blends the values of the Amstel Malta brand and Nollywood to Project Expressions, which are active, attractive and ultimately admirable. The premiere took about a week to the final ceremony of AMBO IV, which is currently running on television stations across the country. The show concept consists of three main elements, which run sequentially; first, a TV Reality Show that picks a winner from group of aspiring 'uknowns;' second a film that stars this winner in a lead role, and third, Road Shows that provide viewing experiences of the film for the esteemed Amstel Malta consumers across the country.

It was in celebration of the second step in this sequence that Nollywood greats and movie lovers gathered under the brand colours of Amstel Malta to celebrate one of their own. This cluster of stars was the cynosure of eyes, as visitors to Silverbird Galleria sought to catch glimpses or take photographs of their favourite movie stars. The advent of these stars was in honour of the premiere of the blockbuster movie done in culmination of the Amstel Malta Box Office (AMBO) deal with Bhaira McWizu after she won the third edition of the reality show last year. Prominent among the stars, who gathered to welcome Bhaira into the fold were the National President Of Actors' Guild of Nigeria, Ejike Asiegbu, Bob Manuel-Udokwu, O.C. Ukeje, Nonso Diobi, and a host of others.

For the Anambra State budding star, who runs a hotel with her mother, the premiere was another feather added to her crown, since she emerged as winner of the show last year. Bhaira described the movie as a beautiful story of resilience, determination and love as a young lady dares to go against odds in her unrelenting quest to be an agent of change. It is an inspirational movie that keeps hope alive and told in contemporary style. She said the whole process of making the movie was enthralling for her, especially with the fact that they had to imbibe a new culture, and learn the sonorous Kuteb language, which was the language spoken by the locale that was chosen for the movie. She also applauded the producers for the up-to-date props and engineers and the breathtaking locations that were used as the locale for the movie.

The show, which began in 2005 had Azizat Sadiq, now a top Nollywood actress as the winner of the first edition of AMBO, after 21 days of fantastic displays of acting skills, creativity, thrilling action and entertainment on the AMBO movie talent hunt reality TV show at the end of which she not only grabbed the star prize of N2.5 million but, also played the lead role in Sitanda, the AMBO movie, which won five awards at the 2006 African Movie Academy Awards. OC Ukeje emerged winner in 2006. His AMBO movie, Whitewaters, which featured him as lead also bagged four awards at the 2007 African Movie Academy Awards with Ukeje coasting home with the best upcoming actor award.

The necessity of the reality show was confirmed by the audience reaction to the movie as invited guests were ushered into Cinema Hall IV for the premiere.

Right from the beginning, the movie made a positive connection with the guests because contrary to run of the mill Nollywood movies, the storyline of the flick bespoke the policy of the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC), and the struggles corps members go through as they strive to fit into the new environments they find themselves. Amidst trials, discomforts, unfamiliar territories and the forces of people who have influence; Cindy must look past her background and her usual expectations and take pride in serving her country and contribute her quota to the development of the community she finds herself. In doing this, she finds herself renewed. Apart from entertaining an audience, the movie also celebrated and projected the cultural heritage of the locale where it was shot.

Again and again spontaneous rounds of applause erupted in the hall as the guests identified with the creativity and genius of the director, Izu Chukwu, and his interpretation of Cindy's Notes. According to Franklyn Ovbigbahon, the movie was different from regular home videos. The casting of experienced Nollywood actors was a far cry from those who participated in Sitanda where the other actors dwarfed the character of Azizat Sadiq, in White Waters as in Cindy's Notes, the experienced actors are cast to complement and project the AMBO Winner.

"For me watching a Nigerian movie is anathema because the storylines, acting and effects are usually so amateurish and boring. I had my doubts coming here but Cindy's Notes blew me away. The manner in which the plot was laid and brought to a conclusion was particularly intriguing. I have no doubt that this movie will win awards in any competition it enters," and this reaction was echoed by the various guests who saw the movie. Another guest described "the movie as a potpourri of inspiration, courage, love, comedy, pain and hope, which are all elements of a good drama finely mixed and properly served for audience delight."

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vince

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Takestyle said:
besides, it's not the producers' responsibility to promote the writer. if anything, it works AGAINST the producer's interests to give the writer too much power by doing that. so unless the writer's name is going to attract an audience, why give them that extra boost?
Man,this is complete bullshit.Why in the world do most, if not all, hollywood movies include the names of writers responsible for the scripts on which the movies are based, both in the movie credits and on the posters, if they are not important?
Even when movies get reviewed here in austria and in germany,5 names of behind-the-camera people get mentioned by the reviewers at all times;
1)The producer
2)The director
3)THE WRITER(The scriptwriter,that is)
4)The DP or cinematographer
5)The editor

No movie gets reviewed here without first giving credits to these people,especially the writers,well known or not.Why would that be so if it is not that important?You consider it not important to include the person who is creatively and intellectually responsible for the blueprint of a movie?And you say that you are a writer.Na wa!
FYI,a lot of moviegoers base their choice of movies on the scriptwriters,especially the ones whose work they have seen before and loved.
I am yet to see a hollywood poster that does not include the name of the writer in the credits on the poster,and i have seen many.
 

peculiar

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And how i wish that you have seen it so i can get some views on the flick.But instead what i got was your desire to see the flick.How disappointing...
:laugh: You are oh so predictable!!! I knew you'd be here on my case almost immediately! :spiny: You haven't seen it too? Has anyone here seen it tho'?? :confused:
 

vince

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:laugh: You are oh so predictable!!! I knew you'd be here on my case almost immediately! :spiny: You haven't seen it too? Has anyone here seen it tho'?? :confused:
The question is,has it been released into the market?If it hasn't,then it becomes difficult to see how it could be seen by most people.
All this movies that get made but never released to the public sef...me i don taya for them all.
Do you know how many movies have been made but never seen the light of day?People are still waiting for the release of Omo Iya Kan, nine months after the trailer was made public.
 
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