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moviewizard

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But seriously, i have a question and i would appreciate if someone answers me. I have been thinking seriously about all these Nollywood Usa movies e.g the Pascal Atuma's, JJ bunny, George Kalu etc. I dont get to see these movies in Nigeria, or hear about them.

Do they have an exclusive market for them in USA, and if so, does releasing them in the US market alone guarantee that the producer would recoup his investments....

I have just been thinking cos i keep seeing trailers upon trailers on youtube but no show here. Not like i am interesting in seeing the movies, but their unavailability here kinda got me curious.


In other news, Happy new year peeps.....Glad we made it!!!
 

moviewizard

Well-Known Member
#2
And i also forgot to add, these people that act these movies, are they really Nigerians? who are their audience target? The same one Nollywood, Nigeria (sorry i had to do that) is targeting cos i cant seem to connect to these actors, and am not even talking about acting talent.


check out the trailer of one of such below....OKOTO the messenger




YouTube - Okoto The Messenger Trailer
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
#6
And i also forgot to add, these people that act these movies, are they really Nigerians? who are their audience target? The same one Nollywood, Nigeria (sorry i had to do that) is targeting cos i cant seem to connect to these actors, and am not even talking about acting talent.


check out the trailer of one of such below....OKOTO the messenger




YouTube - Okoto The Messenger Trailer
But seriously, i have a question and i would appreciate if someone answers me. I have been thinking seriously about all these Nollywood Usa movies e.g the Pascal Atuma's, JJ bunny, George Kalu etc. I dont get to see these movies in Nigeria, or hear about them.

Do they have an exclusive market for them in USA, and if so, does releasing them in the US market alone guarantee that the producer would recoup his investments....

I have just been thinking cos i keep seeing trailers upon trailers on youtube but no show here. Not like i am interesting in seeing the movies, but their unavailability here kinda got me curious.


In other news, Happy new year peeps.....Glad we made it!!!
Let me answer all your questions, as I am involved with the Nollywood USA (NU) as well...
1. Some of these USA producers do not give a hoot about Nollywood Nigeria. They are simply feeding off the fame of NN (Nollywood-Nigeria). All they are after is making money from the movies....how?

2. These movies NU make are simply sold to marketers here (NY, MD, CA, TX etc).....and I mean,...they sell the movie straight out, collect their money, waka and go to the next! Yes, they all recoup their money! Even from the premieres....And note also that 90% of the cast members are NOT really paid! Most of them work for little or nothing! Because, the girls all want to be another Genevieve! And sometimes, the groupie thing in them to act next to popular actors, am sure gives them enough orgasm and bragging rights that they value more than cash. So, if a NU producer spend just $10,000 for a movie (cast, equipment rental etc) and sells it for like $60,000...emmm...do you have a calculator?) Bros, IT IS a BUSINESS here!! They don't care about the artistic angle or even making movies that would go to Sundance or ever see an Oscar back entrance!)
Besides, I have seen a known producer here paying his cast as little as $100 for the whole movie, and this particular actress had over 20 scenes!! Shot over 4 days and of course, she had to call off work to do it! To me, they simply use 'twisted psychology' to coerce these wanna-be actresses here that they would become famous and get rich later, so, they had to pay their 'dues' too...... And many a time, the movies are funded by more than one person, so, the producers don't feel the deep risk! And so many of them use OPM [other people's money]

3. The movies do sell here, because there are lots of Caribbeans, Non-Nigerians who are Nollywood addicts! Think about it, if they are not selling, you think they would be making them like every other 2 weeks? You think NN are fast in shooting, editing and putting out for sell? Come see NU! They cast, shoot, edit and PREMIERE even faster!

4. Most of the casts on NU movies are NON-Nigerians!! I've seen a NU movie that the only Nigerian on the set was one girl who had never ever even gone to Nigeria!

5. The movies being sold to the NN market is left to the marketers here.....and i really wonder why they don't ship them to Nigeria...

6. Another funny trend with the NU movies is that, they definitely believe that having a NN A-list star would make their movie sell....that is why you see them recycling the ones that visit USA a lot. These NN stars come to USA for a vacation and as soon as the word gets round, you see Producers calling them to 'use' them while they are around, as that saves them having to fly in the actor at their expense. (one thing that I wonder about this though...is that, aren't these NN actors that keep shooting movies here breaking the law? because I am sure all their Visitor's Visa definitely have 'NO Authorization to work' stamped on it, but, they 'work' when they are here, and of course, do NOT pay Uncle Sam taxes, anyway, I digress...guess it is the accountant in me doing some IRS math)..

7. As for the weaves matter, I believe sometimes they use the weaves a lot in order to 'create different looks' as much as they possibly can, when they have to shoot so many scenes in 2 weeks- which is the maximum I have seen them shoot movies here! Sometimes, I have noticed they even mess up their own continuity by using the wrong weave to shoot in another scene. For example, I saw one where the lady had a bang wig, and in the same scene, different house, her weave had changed to shorter style....I was like, do they think people are blind?

One thing I give them kudos for though, is that at least they usually get the sounds right. The lightings, they still have a long way to go.

And for goodness sakes, if they name a character 'Bose', she should at least have a 'Bose'[yoruba] accent, and not an obviously Liberian accent! Seriously!
it is good that all Africans here are mixing up in the NU, but, they should NOT totally take off the real Nigerians from the scene!!

And please don't get me started on what these so-called producers do here during 'casting' how many girls they bed and mate withe the promise of 'roles' who never hear the sound of 'action' when the video starts rolling and of course, they cannot shout 'rape', because they 'consented' for a movie role!

One girl simply summarized it, after an episode of where a director casted 3 different girls for one role and had slept with all of them, and eventually gave that role to an African- American girl.....when these chick was telling me the story, she said something that cracked me up...she said that the other 3 girls 'invested', but sadly, there is no return policy. No refund or store credit. bwahahahaha! lwkmd!! that the director cannot refund them the sex session, but maybe, he could carry it over to his next movie for them, or they may have to 'invest' again! So, Moviewizard, that is one common ground where the the NN and NU directors are same! happy New year.
 

sidney

Well-Known Member
#7
Let me answer all your questions, as I am involved with the Nollywood USA (NU) as well...
1. Some of these USA producers do not give a hoot about Nollywood Nigeria. They are simply feeding off the fame of NN (Nollywood-Nigeria). All they are after is making money from the movies....how?

2. These movies NU make are simply sold to marketers here (NY, MD, CA).....and I mean,...they sell the movie straight out, collect their money, waka and go to the next! Yes, they all recoup their money! Even from the premieres....And note also that 90% of the cast members are NOT really paid! Most of them work for little or nothing! Because, the girls all want to be another Genevieve! And sometimes, the groupie thing in them to act next to popular actors, am sure gives them enough orgasm and bragging rights that they value more than cash. So, if a NU producer spend just $10,000 for a movie (cast, equipment rental etc) and sells it for like $60,000...emmm...do you have a calculator?) Bros, IT IS a BUSINESS here!! They don't care about the artistic angle or even making movies that would go to Sundance or ever see an Oscar back entrance!)
Besides, I have seen a known producer here paying his cast as little as $100 for the whole movie, and this particular actress had over 20 scenes!! Shot over 4 days and of course, she had to call off work to do it! To me, they simply use 'twisted psychology' to coerce these wanna-be actresses here that they would become famous and get rich later, so, they had to pay their 'dues' too...... And many a time, the movies are funded by more than one person, so, the producers don't feel the deep risk! And so many of them use OPM [other people's money]

3. The movies do sell here, because there are lots of Caribbeans, Non-Nigerians who are Nollywood addicts! Think about it, if they are not selling, you think they would be making them like every other 2 weeks? You think NN are fast in shooting, editing and putting out for sell? Come see NU! They cast, shoot, edit and PREMIERE even faster!

4. Most of the casts on NU movies are NON-Nigerians!! I've seen a NU movie that the only Nigerian on the set was one girl who had never ever even gone to Nigeria!

5. The movies being sold to the NN market is left to the marketers here.....and i really wonder why they don't ship them to Nigeria...

6. Another funny trend with the NU movies is that, they definitely believe that having a NN A-list star would make their movie sell....that is why you see them recycling the ones that visit USA a lot. These NN stars come to USA for a vacation and as soon as the word gets round, you see Producers calling them to 'use' them while they are around, as that saves them having to fly in the actor at their expense. (one thing that I wonder about this though...is that, aren't these NN actors that keep shooting movies here breaking the law? because I am sure all their Visitor's Visa definitely have 'NO Authorization to work' stamped on it, but, they 'work' when they are here, and of course, do NOT pay Uncle Sam taxes, anyway, I digress...guess it is the accountant in me doing some IRS math)..

7. As for the weaves matter, I believe sometimes they use the weaves a lot in order to 'create different looks' as much as they possibly can, when they have to shoot so many scenes in 2 weeks- which is the maximum I have seen them shoot movies here! Sometimes, I have noticed they even mess up their own continuity by using the wrong weave to shoot in another scene. For example, I saw one where the lady had a bang wig, and in the same scene, different house, her weave had changed to shorter style....I was like, do they think people are blind?

One thing I give them kudos for though, is that at least they usually get the sounds right. The lightings, they still have a long way to go.

And for goodness sakes, if they name a character 'Bose', she should at least have a 'Bose'[yoruba] accent, and not an obviously Liberian accent! Seriously!
it is good that all Africans here are mixing up in the NU, but, they should NOT totally take off the real Nigerians from the scene!!

And please don't get me started on what these so-called producers do here during 'casting' how many girls they bed and mate withe the promise of 'roles' who never hear the sound of 'action' when the video starts rolling and of course, they cannot shout 'rape', because they 'consented' for a movie role!

One girl simply summarized it, after an episode of where a director casted 3 different girls for one role and had slept with all of them, and eventually gave that role to an African- American girl.....when these chick was telling me the story, she said something that cracked me up...she said that the other 3 girls 'invested', but sadly, there is no return policy. No refund or store credit. bwahahahaha! lwkmd!! that the director cannot refund them the sex session, but maybe, he could carry it over to his next movie for them, or they may have to 'invest' again! So, Moviewizard, that is one common ground where the the NN and NU directors are same! happy New year.
Great insights!! Very interesting!
 

moviewizard

Well-Known Member
#8
Let me answer all your questions, as I am involved with the Nollywood USA (NU) as well...
1. Some of these USA producers do not give a hoot about Nollywood Nigeria. They are simply feeding off the fame of NN (Nollywood-Nigeria). All they are after is making money from the movies....how?

2. These movies NU make are simply sold to marketers here (NY, MD, CA).....and I mean,...they sell the movie straight out, collect their money, waka and go to the next! Yes, they all recoup their money! Even from the premieres....And note also that 90% of the cast members are NOT really paid! Most of them work for little or nothing! Because, the girls all want to be another Genevieve! And sometimes, the groupie thing in them to act next to popular actors, am sure gives them enough orgasm and bragging rights that they value more than cash. So, if a NU producer spend just $10,000 for a movie (cast, equipment rental etc) and sells it for like $60,000...emmm...do you have a calculator?) Bros, IT IS a BUSINESS here!! They don't care about the artistic angle or even making movies that would go to Sundance or ever see an Oscar back entrance!)
Besides, I have seen a known producer here paying his cast as little as $100 for the whole movie, and this particular actress had over 20 scenes!! Shot over 4 days and of course, she had to call off work to do it! To me, they simply use 'twisted psychology' to coerce these wanna-be actresses here that they would become famous and get rich later, so, they had to pay their 'dues' too...... And many a time, the movies are funded by more than one person, so, the producers don't feel the deep risk! And so many of them use OPM [other people's money]

3. The movies do sell here, because there are lots of Caribbeans, Non-Nigerians who are Nollywood addicts! Think about it, if they are not selling, you think they would be making them like every other 2 weeks? You think NN are fast in shooting, editing and putting out for sell? Come see NU! They cast, shoot, edit and PREMIERE even faster!

4. Most of the casts on NU movies are NON-Nigerians!! I've seen a NU movie that the only Nigerian on the set was one girl who had never ever even gone to Nigeria!

5. The movies being sold to the NN market is left to the marketers here.....and i really wonder why they don't ship them to Nigeria...

6. Another funny trend with the NU movies is that, they definitely believe that having a NN A-list star would make their movie sell....that is why you see them recycling the ones that visit USA a lot. These NN stars come to USA for a vacation and as soon as the word gets round, you see Producers calling them to 'use' them while they are around, as that saves them having to fly in the actor at their expense. (one thing that I wonder about this though...is that, aren't these NN actors that keep shooting movies here breaking the law? because I am sure all their Visitor's Visa definitely have 'NO Authorization to work' stamped on it, but, they 'work' when they are here, and of course, do NOT pay Uncle Sam taxes, anyway, I digress...guess it is the accountant in me doing some IRS math)..

7. As for the weaves matter, I believe sometimes they use the weaves a lot in order to 'create different looks' as much as they possibly can, when they have to shoot so many scenes in 2 weeks- which is the maximum I have seen them shoot movies here! Sometimes, I have noticed they even mess up their own continuity by using the wrong weave to shoot in another scene. For example, I saw one where the lady had a bang wig, and in the same scene, different house, her weave had changed to shorter style....I was like, do they think people are blind?

One thing I give them kudos for though, is that at least they usually get the sounds right. The lightings, they still have a long way to go.

And for goodness sakes, if they name a character 'Bose', she should at least have a 'Bose'[yoruba] accent, and not an obviously Liberian accent! Seriously!
it is good that all Africans here are mixing up in the NU, but, they should NOT totally take off the real Nigerians from the scene!!

And please don't get me started on what these so-called producers do here during 'casting' how many girls they bed and mate withe the promise of 'roles' who never hear the sound of 'action' when the video starts rolling and of course, they cannot shout 'rape', because they 'consented' for a movie role!

One girl simply summarized it, after an episode of where a director casted 3 different girls for one role and had slept with all of them, and eventually gave that role to an African- American girl.....when these chick was telling me the story, she said something that cracked me up...she said that the other 3 girls 'invested', but sadly, there is no return policy. No refund or store credit. bwahahahaha! lwkmd!! that the director cannot refund them the sex session, but maybe, he could carry it over to his next movie for them, or they may have to 'invest' again! So, Moviewizard, that is one common ground where the the NN and NU directors are same! happy New year.

Wow! You said all i needed to know am more. Thanks alot. This is really eye opening. I noticed about the sound too, they mostly get it right but acting/casting is usually bad and in-appropriate......

Happy new year. Thanks for an expository summary.
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
#10
Wow! You said all i needed to know am more. Thanks alot. This is really eye opening. I noticed about the sound too, they mostly get it right but acting/casting is usually bad and in-appropriate......

Happy new year. Thanks for an expository summary.
You are welcome.
If you ask me, they should simply call them 'AFRIwood', not Nollywood, because they take off nigerians in most of the movies, even have other Africans playing lead and supporting roles...so, what makes them 'Nolly'wood? And these days, there are lots of other Africans playing producers and directors and not too many Nigerians...
 

Sola

Administrator
Staff member
#11
So, if a NU producer spend just $10,000 for a movie (cast, equipment rental etc) and sells it for like $60,000...emmm...do you have a calculator?) Bros, IT IS a BUSINESS here!!
There's a lot of generalisations hurled about in your long post, but let's begin wit this one. I have never seen a marketer in the US pay up to 60k for the rights to market any movie. If they pay you more than 5k, you got lucky. They are as miserly and penny pinching as the ones in Nigeria, and selling to different regions even does not make you close to 60k. The fact is MOST movies made in America NEVER recoup their investments. Take that to the bank. MOST NEVER.

10k budget sha? I think the average budget is about 20k Even equipment alone will cost you so much money, and most just splurge and buy their own. But you're only looking at the mainstream level. There's the "Ije" and "Anchor Baby" and "D'Comeback" or "Crazy Like a Fox" of Nigerian filmmakers abroad. Budgets like those are way beyond 10k. Even common Jim Iyke will not accept anything less than $5k to feature in your movie abroad, and that was about 2yrs ago.

As to doing it merely for business, that's what movie-making is anywhere. The trend, I believe, on the female end of the spectrum, is since they can't get easily into Nollywood from here, they make their own movies to give them some fame and leg room into the industry back home where the heart is really set.

They don't care about the artistic angle or even making movies that would go to Sundance or ever see an Oscar back entrance!
Another generalisation. Maybe the ones you have interacted with... Some of them do aspire to make serious movies. They do know the stakes are higher simply because they reside abroad. You also forget Nollywood abroad is even way younger than Nollywood Nigeria and has no organisation whatsoever. Folks just aspire and perspire randomly. Besides, some of them have won awards Nollywood Nigeria is still aspiring to.
Besides, I have seen a known producer here paying his cast as little as $100 for the whole movie, and this particular actress had over 20 scenes!! Shot over 4 days and of course, she had to call off work to do it! To me, they simply use 'twisted psychology' to coerce these wanna-be actresses here that they would become famous and get rich later, so, they had to pay their 'dues' too......
Business as it is done anywhere in the world. Keep cost low, maximise profit. He's not into charity. I have no idea how he can coerce anyone to act in his movie, but one experience does not a trend make.
And many a time, the movies are funded by more than one person, so, the producers don't feel the deep risk! And so many of them use OPM [other people's money]
Same way movies are made everywhere. What's the point?

3. The movies do sell here, because there are lots of Caribbeans, Non-Nigerians who are Nollywood addicts! Think about it, if they are not selling, you think they would be making them like every other 2 weeks? You think NN are fast in shooting, editing and putting out for sell? Come see NU! They cast, shoot, edit and PREMIERE even faster!
I really wish I could agree with this your assertion. Modern technology makes it possible for movie turn-around time to be faster, and all that tech is available to folks in the USA. That aside, a movie every two weeks? For where? I dare you to list 20 titles made in the USA in 2010. Do it and I will stone you with an apology! Even if "they are selling" as you claim - only the marketers and pirates are seeing whatever money since they have almost nil invested. Of course the so-called marketers abroad are also the ring leaders of the pirate community of the products they sell, especially where they have to declare returns (think Nigeria too).
4. Most of the casts on NU movies are NON-Nigerians!! I've seen a NU movie that the only Nigerian on the set was one girl who had never ever even gone to Nigeria!
How does this matter?
5. The movies being sold to the NN market is left to the marketers here.....and i really wonder why they don't ship them to Nigeria...
The marketers in Nigeria hawk a movie based on its star power, no more. Star power is often not available to filmmakers in the USA since all the stars are in Nigeria. That makes in impossible for them to get buyers in Nigeria, that's all. No need to wonder anymore.
6. Another funny trend with the NU movies is that, they definitely believe that having a NN A-list star would make their movie sell....that is why you see them recycling the ones that visit USA a lot. These NN stars come to USA for a vacation and as soon as the word gets round, you see Producers calling them to 'use' them while they are around...
A legitimate business practice. You can't sell a movie "properly" without star power. You should also be informed that when our stars come abroad, they send out feelers to their connected friends to explore the possibilities of doing quick jobs. Absolutely nothing wrong in two interests meeting.
...one thing that I wonder about this though...is that, aren't these NN actors that keep shooting movies here breaking the law? because I am sure all their Visitor's Visa definitely have 'NO Authorization to work' stamped on it, but, they 'work' when they are here, and of course, do NOT pay Uncle Sam taxes, anyway, I digress...
Amebo. Stop digressing and let them be. Dem disturb ya market?
And please don't get me started on what these so-called producers do here during 'casting' how many girls they bed and mate withe the promise of 'roles' who never hear the sound of 'action' when the video starts rolling and of course, they cannot shout 'rape', because they 'consented' for a movie role!
It happens in "Show business" all over the world. You guys should focus on other issues abeg. In every kind of business, banking, advertising, whatever, weird practices are evolved to explore and exploit by all. There is no good or bad about it. It JUST IS.
 

moviewizard

Well-Known Member
#12
Its getting interesting. Where in TS in this new year?

But really Oga Sola, i dont think we can say "Ije" or "Anchor baby" is Nollywood USA, or is it? The methods arent the same o, even though they were also shot abroad. I dunno sha, i may need to be schooled.
 

Sola

Administrator
Staff member
#13
But really Oga Sola, i dont think we can say "Ije" or "Anchor baby" is Nollywood USA, or is it? The methods arent the same o, even though they were also shot abroad...
I don't see how they are different. They were made by Nigerian filmmakers abroad using the same tactic that's been employed by others long before them - borrowing a star or two (which bloats the budget) from the real Nollywood. What's different about the method? Ghanaians were doing it before they evolved local stars through Collabs with Nollywood.

It isn't good enough to know a "filmmaker" here or there. You also need to know these so-called marketers and get the real story from them. They're usually NOT interested in movies made by Nollywood USA, as you called it. These are harder to exploit. The film owners are nearby and can fairly monitor piracy and even get the authorities after folks around them. Marketers abroad prefer films made on the Continent by faraway producers. That way, they pay one time for the rights - usually no more than 5k at the most generous (of course the folks back home jump at it since they have already mapped out how to make the movie profitable locally in Naija or Ghana and this is just bonus they would not have received if the movie had just been pirated abroad) - and then go on to break a two-part movie into 4-parts (at times), place all their labels on it, sell it as downloads, packaged products and in many cases, under the radar as "pirated" DVDs. Its all about the money.
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
#14
I believe all that dissection you made is based on 'YOUR OWN' experience, right? And I made my statements, based on MY OWN experiences. So, to each his own. Simple.

I don't know who is paying 5k for a full movie O.....that is armed/daylight robbery O. Please disconnect from them! I know people who are paying as much as $60K for movies.....
And maybe you did not see in my post that I mentioned AFRIwood, because I am NOT talking about just Nigerian producers.....I am talking about AFRICAN producers, and they are many here in US!

And I don't understand why you said it does not matter if they only cast one Nigerian girl in a NOLLYwood movie, and if that one happens to talk ebonics, when the role is about a Nigerian girl who just came in from Nigeria (thick accent and all), how is that not a bad casting? hah.

people working without work kpali, you said it is amebor....OK, you don't think Uncle sam may be watching.....how about them getting some kind of written permission or something first, before this trend continues and kukuma block road for others in future?? last time I checked, people wey dey work under table dey do 'hide hide' work, dem no dey do am for video and public and even premiere am mega publicly! You of all persons should proffer a possible solution to this to avoid wahala for this Nollywood that is spreading worldwide now! Me, I dey see future vision, and I say, producers should find a way to get these people permit or some kinda kpali that says no be work dem dey do, but, cultural contribution or something!

And as per ya claim on the money actors are paid, my brother, I have seen even some 'Stars' in the industry collect 2K! because dem no get choice! A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush! All of them wey dey come yankee for extended 'vacation'....you no think say na work dem dey find indirectly? And I dont care how much dem carry enter here, by the time they spend hotel bills and do small show off, their moolahs go reduce, so, any job can do! Simple! Dem dey get bargaining power if producer from here call them for Naija, then, they can make shakara! Or if work too plenty for them for here, then, dem go make shakara! But, they do collect low pay. Quote me any day. And I have solid facts.

My stating that they make movies faster here is NOT a complaint, but a statement to tell Moviewizard more about NU and NN. because people complain about NN as rolling out movies faster, NU is now doing same. And yes, they should, afterall, there is no NEPA/electricity outage here and there are better rquipments and softwares here....

And my use of the term Nollywood-USA(NU) are simply movies made and shot in USA! The IJE you listed was shot in Nigeria and USA.....I am refering to movies that have all locations and everything gbogbotitih here in yankee!! No location, no flashback, no nathing with naija setting or location!
It is New year's day, plenty to do, when I get time I go list out movies that I have seen shot here from all the Africans (North, South, East and West) producers. I promise you.

bottom line is that your reply is a personal attack to me! Moviewizard asked a question, and why didnt you come in and answer him? I answered and you are picking it line by line.
I still stand by what I said because 'I did not hear say'.... I am talking of what I KNOW!

Happy New Year O!


There's a lot of generalisations hurled about in your long post, but let's begin wit this one. I have never seen a marketer in the US pay up to 60k for the rights to market any movie. If they pay you more than 5k, you got lucky. They are as miserly and penny pinching as the ones in Nigeria, and selling to different regions even does not make you close to 60k. The fact is MOST movies made in America NEVER recoup their investments. Take that to the bank. MOST NEVER.

10k budget sha? I think the average budget is about 20k Even equipment alone will cost you so much money, and most just splurge and buy their own. But you're only looking at the mainstream level. There's the "Ije" and "Anchor Baby" and "D'Comeback" or "Crazy Like a Fox" of Nigerian filmmakers abroad. Budgets like those are way beyond 10k. Even common Jim Iyke will not accept anything less than $5k to feature in your movie abroad, and that was about 2yrs ago.

As to doing it merely for business, that's what movie-making is anywhere. The trend, I believe, on the female end of the spectrum, is since they can't get easily into Nollywood from here, they make their own movies to give them some fame and leg room into the industry back home where the heart is really set.

Another generalisation. Maybe the ones you have interacted with... Some of them do aspire to make serious movies. They do know the stakes are higher simply because they reside abroad. You also forget Nollywood abroad is even way younger than Nollywood Nigeria and has no organisation whatsoever. Folks just aspire and perspire randomly. Besides, some of them have won awards Nollywood Nigeria is still aspiring to.
Business as it is done anywhere in the world. Keep cost low, maximise profit. He's not into charity. I have no idea how he can coerce anyone to act in his movie, but one experience does not a trend make.
Same way movies are made everywhere. What's the point?

I really wish I could agree with this your assertion. Modern technology makes it possible for movie turn-around time to be faster, and all that tech is available to folks in the USA. That aside, a movie every two weeks? For where? I dare you to list 20 titles made in the USA in 2010. Do it and I will stone you with an apology! Even if "they are selling" as you claim - only the marketers and pirates are seeing whatever money since they have almost nil invested. Of course the so-called marketers abroad are also the ring leaders of the pirate community of the products they sell, especially where they have to declare returns (think Nigeria too).
How does this matter?
The marketers in Nigeria hawk a movie based on its star power, no more. Star power is often not available to filmmakers in the USA since all the stars are in Nigeria. That makes in impossible for them to get buyers in Nigeria, that's all. No need to wonder anymore.
A legitimate business practice. You can't sell a movie "properly" without star power. You should also be informed that when our stars come abroad, they send out feelers to their connected friends to explore the possibilities of doing quick jobs. Absolutely nothing wrong in two interests meeting.
Amebo. Stop digressing and let them be. Dem disturb ya market?
It happens in "Show business" all over the world. You guys should focus on other issues abeg. In every kind of business, banking, advertising, whatever, weird practices are evolved to explore and exploit by all. There is no good or bad about it. It JUST IS.
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
#15
Its getting interesting. Where in TS in this new year?

But really Oga Sola, i dont think we can say "Ije" or "Anchor baby" is Nollywood USA, or is it? The methods arent the same o, even though they were also shot abroad. I dunno sha, i may need to be schooled.
Exactly! Those can be Nollywood proper as they started the story in Naija and ended in US or vice versa. Nollywood USA movies are the ones that the producers sit in one State, in fact, just one county and shoot from beginning to end! That cannot obviously cost them anything! They don't even bother to rent real venues sometimes, but could plead and beg for short term usage...... they are very tight on budget and many a times, the cast are simply people walking by, NOT even knowing that they are being shot.... I have seen these happen several times. So, with 10K, they can shoot a movie! because friends and family members would always provide 'free/no pay' casts for them..... they may only pay the lead actor and support, dat's all! And the camera man....post production.......how much dem wan pay?
 

Sola

Administrator
Staff member
#16
bottom line is that your reply is a personal attack to me! Moviewizard asked a question, and why didnt you come in and answer him? I answered and you are picking it line by line.
Personal attack? I thought I was balancing out some of your wrong, incomplete or taken out of context information. You said so many things that there was no other way to address them but to break them down - and you have a problem with that? I didn't even address them all o! You could have easily responded to me bit by bit too you know? Grow a thick skin if you're going to debate with people online. A little derision never hurt anyone in a debate. It is your right to stand by whatever you believe, but that still doesn't make it the truth. We're good. I will leave you to enjoy your thundering...
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
#17
Personal attack? I thought I was balancing out some of your wrong, incomplete or taken out of context information. You said so many things that there was no other way to address them but to break them down - and you have a problem with that? I didn't even address them all o! You could have easily responded to me bit by bit too you know? Grow a thick skin if you're going to debate with people online. A little derision never hurt anyone in a debate. It is your right to stand by whatever you believe, but that still doesn't make it the truth. We're good. I will leave you to enjoy your thundering...
Nah, its been boring here lately, am game for thundering or lightning ....

Your line-by-line picking did not sound like someone 'addressing' what I wrote. it sounded very personal and might I say kinda trashing everything I said. And I am not saying what other people 'said', but what I know....and you picked on everything I wrote, sitting and addressing all of them would be too much much for real, especially when I know what I am saying...I don't argue when I am stating facts I know Sir. So, in other words, you are telling me EVERYTHING I said was disagreeable to you? and 'taken out of context and incomplete' to you?
 

wendydoks

Well-Known Member
#18
nollywood USA or whatever they call themselves, seems more like a joke to me. i can never take them seriously.


@ this rate, chet anekwe is becoming a nollywood actor o.
 

samira

Well-Known Member
#19
Coming to think of it all these Nollywood USA movies, I have yet to see Gen in any of them. Is it because she is too 'expensive' to hire? I was going to include Omot too but I just saw her in the movie called 'Mind Games'.
 

moviewizard

Well-Known Member
#20
Coming to think of it all these Nollywood USA movies, I have yet to see Gen in any of them. Is it because she is too 'expensive' to hire? I was going to include Omot too but I just saw her in the movie called 'Mind Games'.

You know, i kind of wondered about it though. Or hasnt Genny taken a USA vacation before? Since words do get out, someone would inform them producers and someone would contact her. Never seen her in any of them movies.
 
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