Desmond Elliot vs Genevieve NNaji

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Angela81

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LOL! You are fascinating! Keep editing your post to insult me! HAHA! You are exposing yourself even more trust me.

But its not really that serious, its not even serious at all. All I know is GOD is my witness that I don't go hating you with hidden IDs, you've got to retrace your steps and stop accuse me nor Genny wrongly. SHE HAS MOVED ON! Spell that backword SHE HAS MOVED ON! And as for you, I pray your heart is touch and peace and love and forgiveness and letting go dwells in there. Just let Genny be, take a day off hating her and others... you know?

Have a good life.
yes o. I edited the post. 1 because I keep getting logged out before I finish. Thank God for copy. and 2 because your level of hatred fascinates me!! I was tempted to post a links about you and some comments you made about this same Leila Djansi and I asked you why you keep putting her name in quotes but I held back and wrote something else. a link to her fanpage on facebook where you openly dissed the cover of the Ties That Bind poster but decided against that also, plus another link to imdb where you were fighting everybody about Genevieve Nnaji and Chiwetel Ejiofor. I have never liked you on NR. NEVER. you are so bent on belittling.

where in this post did I hate on Genevieve nnaji? by saying she should not work with Desmond? or by saying Kimberly is more bankable than her? where is the hate? you obviously have some hidden something for Leila Djansi stemming from that Leila/Genny saga. Genny has moved on abi? so has Ms. Djansi. why would someone who is making million dollar movies, winning awards left and right be holding a torch about something or someone that will not put food on her table or benefit her in any way? it is you and me that are still holding on to it because they are stars and we are not.

you are so jealous!! its pathetic you think Leila Djansi has no supporters or people to defend her
its pathetic you think Genevieve is better than her
its pathetic you hate her without even knowing her because of Genevieve Nnaji!

the question is why?
 

takestyle

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#83
TS. thank you. I know exactly what you guys are trying to say. if all things were equal, Genny is a bigger star than Kimberly. true. Genny knows Kimberly, Kimberly does not know Genny.
And so? I'm sure Kimberly probably does not Shah Rukh Khan, but Khan still has WAY more fans than Kimberly and is a much bigger star.

Angela81 said:
BUT, all things are NOT equal. I doubt the highlighted is true when we count viewers in the whole world. Who are the people you are referring to? Nigerians? In Ghana, Genny does not pull crowd anymore I'm told. Its Jackie. The edge Kimberly or Vivica have over Genny is diverse exposure, a wider market and audience. lets be real. Apart from West Africans and a percentage of east Africans, how many people know Genny? can some random American recognize her? or her work?. when you say kimberly to most white people they say who? then you say the woman who played the wife in John Q. then they go ohhhh. can the same be said for Genny in this part of the world? But take Kimberly to Nigeria. once you say diary of a mad black woman, they know.
I think you're really reaching. Believe me, as Kimberly Elise's #1 fan, I often bring her name up amongst people here *in America*... And the response I most frequently get is "WHO?" Either that, or they just shrug "Oh... her."

People know her because she has been in movies with big stars like Denzel Washington and Oprah Winfrey, but that's not that same thing as saying she has FANS.

Genny has FANS, man... It's not just a matter of her being a supporting player in movies with bigger stars. SHE is the star herself.

And yeah, I realize that Hollywood may not know who Genevieve Nnaji is and her fans might just be lowly Africans, but don't sleep on the fact that Africa is one of the most heavily populated regions in the world and Genny's popularity traverses several African countries.

I'm not talking about who has more worldwide box office power... We talked about *number of fans* and Genevieve Nnaji wins that one, I think. Easily.

I'm going to have to disregard your citation of Tasha Smith, though... You have to be joking there. Most people don't even know her name let alone being a "fan" of hers! Again, she's another person who is fortunate enough to be a supporting actor in movies with bigger stars but she is not a star herself.
 

Angela81

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And so? I'm sure Kimberly probably does not Shah Rukh Khan, but Khan still has WAY more fans than Kimberly and is a much bigger star.



I think you're really reaching. Believe me, as Kimberly Elise's #1 fan, I often bring her name up amongst people here *in America*... And the response I most frequently get is "WHO?" Either that, or they just shrug "Oh... her."

People know her because she has been in movies with big stars like Denzel Washington and Oprah Winfrey, but that's not that same thing as saying she has FANS.

Genny has FANS, man... It's not just a matter of her being a supporting player in movies with bigger stars. SHE is the star herself.

And yeah, I realize that Hollywood may not know who Genevieve Nnaji is and her fans might just be lowly Africans, but don't sleep on the fact that Africa is one of the most heavily populated regions in the world and Genny's popularity traverses several African countries.

I'm not talking about who has more worldwide box office power... We talked about *number of fans* and Genevieve Nnaji wins that one, I think. Easily.

I'm going to have to disregard your citation of Tasha Smith, though... You have to be joking there. Most people don't even know her name let alone being a "fan" of hers! Again, she's another person who is fortunate enough to be a supporting actor in movies with bigger stars but she is not a star herself.

ok, I may have to give you that. I am talking box office so if its number of fans, since I have no way of knowing, I'll say lets agree on that. Africans may be more populous than I'm thinking. As far as the business is concerned, Box office numbers is what matters and that why I also said Tasha Smith. Like Angelas Basset by herself is no longer a box office success but her fans are numerous!

thanks, now I know who Shah Rukh Khan is.
 

takestyle

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ok, I may have to give you that. I am talking box office so if its number of fans, since I have no way of knowing, I'll say lets agree on that. Africans may be more populous than I'm thinking. As far as the business is concerned, Box office numbers is what matters and that why I also said Tasha Smith. Like Angelas Basset by herself is no longer a box office success but her fans are numerous!
Okay, if you want to redefine it as box office success, that's another thing... You started off saying "number of fans" and that raised a red flag for me.

But even then... I don't know about the box office clout of Kimberly Elise and *especially* Tasha Smith. Like I said, they're great in supporting roles but neither one of them can open a movie on their own. But if there were a way to accurate tally the amount of money Ms. Nnaji generates *as a star* I think you could probably make the case that she beats Kim and Tasha in that category too.
 

dkelechi

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yes o. I edited the post. 1 because I keep getting logged out before I finish. Thank God for copy. and 2 because your level of hatred fascinates me!! I was tempted to post a links about you and some comments you made about this same Leila Djansi and I asked you why you keep putting her name in quotes but I held back and wrote something else. a link to her fanpage on facebook where you openly dissed the cover of the Ties That Bind poster but decided against that also, plus another link to imdb where you were fighting everybody about Genevieve Nnaji and Chiwetel Ejiofor. I have never liked you on NR. NEVER. you are so bent on belittling.

where in this post did I hate on Genevieve nnaji? by saying she should not work with Desmond? or by saying Kimberly is more bankable than her? where is the hate? you obviously have some hidden something for Leila Djansi stemming from that Leila/Genny saga. Genny has moved on abi? so has Ms. Djansi. why would someone who is making million dollar movies, winning awards left and right be holding a torch about something or someone that will not put food on her table or benefit her in any way? it is you and me that are still holding on to it because they are stars and we are not.

you are so jealous!! its pathetic you think Leila Djansi has no supporters or people to defend her
its pathetic you think Genevieve is better than her
its pathetic you hate her without even knowing her because of Genevieve Nnaji!

the question is why?
Shame no de my face, I will do the link you wanted to post for you.

The link you speak of where I hated you is seen here http://nigeriafilms.com/news/12852/9/star-actress-genevieve-nnaji-set-to-act-alongside-.html . Anyone with patience for my rants, kindly click the above link and scroll to: "My Dear Genevieve Ama Ghana | 7/26/2011 10:24:30 PM" by this woman here called Angela81 but Ama Ghana in another website and then my response her "AMA GHANA McCoy | 7/27/2011 10:42:22 PM". Does anything I said there not warrant the response? Moreover, there are other ID's you used there to bash Genny! What for? Something that happen 2008? Really?

The James Bond rumour even came as a shock to Genny and as it increased the lady was just expecting the best from it, then, you patiently wait to hear its false and when you do, mocking her becomes your pleasure and thought I'd not to speak against that? You think Genny needs to give you a call to get to Hollywood right? Because people are not speaking doesn't mean they're dumb, you know. Why won't you avoid threads with Genny entirely? You don't care for her stop acting like you do!!! Why are you asking her to give you a call? Are you high on your own supply or what?

Where did you hear Genny say she is working with or on either stuffs you mentioned there on Nigeriafilms? You know her PR I bet... Did that gist come from them? You see you are doing more damage to yourself? And so what that am kele440 on imdb.com and that I posted on Genny's IMDb page and also constantly contribute to Chiwetel's IMDb page? I am his fan, I THINK HE IS A GREAT ACTOR, big deal? What's your problem? Why are you stalking me now? Don't you have younger ones?

Abeg just undo and free me! Free Genevieve Nnaji, Chineze Anyaene, Tonto Dike, Emem Isong... Free them! I mean stop bashing these people they hurt too. If Genny offended you what did the rest do to you eh? I don't hate you abeg, go and rest! Everybody is not bitter. Am better off doing other things than prolonging these written battle with you. Go and shot your LA-Ghana abi Nigerian film and let people live their lives.
 

Angela81

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Okay, if you want to redefine it as box office success, that's another thing... You started off saying "number of fans" and that raised a red flag for me.

But even then... I don't know about the box office clout of Kimberly Elise and *especially* Tasha Smith. Like I said, they're great in supporting roles but neither one of them can open a movie on their own. But if there were a way to accurate tally the amount of money Ms. Nnaji generates *as a star* I think you could probably make the case that she beats Kim and Tasha in that category too.
really? in this present market? who was in the help? is Genny not "bigger" than each person in there? I am ready to bet anything, that Geneieve Nnaji is NOT a box office hit. DVD yes. box office no. box office with a lot of hype, yes. and that is hardly on her own. Kimberly opening box office is very very very easy with the right elements.
 

Angela81

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Shame no de my face, I will do the link you wanted to post for you.

The link you speak of where I hated Genny is seen here http://nigeriafilms.com/news/12852/9/star-actress-genevieve-nnaji-set-to-act-alongside-.html . Anyone with patience for my rants, kindly read scroll to: "My Dear Genevieve Ama Ghana | 7/26/2011 10:24:30 PM" by this woman here call Angela81 but Ama Ghana in another website and then my response her "AMA GHANA McCoy | 7/27/2011 10:42:22 PM". Does anything I said there not warrant the response? Moreover, there are other ID's you used there to bash Genny! What for? Something that happen 2008? Really?

The James Bond rumour even came as a shock to Genny and as it increase the lady was just expecting the best from it, then, you patiently wait to her is false and when you do, mocking her with it becomes your pleasure and thought I'd not to speak against that? You think Genny needs to give you a call to get to Hollywood right? Because people are not speaking doesn't mean they're dumb, you know. Why won't you avoid threads with Genny entirely? You don't care for her stop acting like you do!!! Why are you asking her to give you a call? Are you high on your own supply or what?

Where did you hear Genny say she is working with or on either stuffs you mentioned there? You know her PR I net... Did that gist come from them? You see you are doing more damage to yourself? And so what that am kele440 on imdb.com and that I posted on Genny's page there and constantly contribute to Chiwetel's there in? I am his fan, I THINK HE IS A GREAT ACTOR, big deal? What's your problem? Why are you stalking me now? Don't you have younger ones?

Abeg just undo and free me! Free Genevieve Nnaji, Chineze Anyaene, Tonto Dike, Emem Isong... Free them! I mean stop bashing these people they hurt too. If Genny offended you what did the rest do to you eh? I do hate you abeg, go and rest! Everybody is not bitter. Am better off doing other things than prolonging these written battle with you. Go and shot your LA-Ghana abi Nigerian film and let people live their lives.
whao! I guess your demons have taken you to a whole new level. what has Leila done to you kele Mckoy?

i think you should prove that Mem MaryAngela Salquist I'm Leila Djansi. phone number? email? photo? ip aaddress? please, prove it or LEAVE THE POOR WOMAN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LEAVE HER ALONE
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takestyle

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really? in this present market? who was in the help? is Genny not "bigger" than each person in there? I am ready to bet anything, that Geneieve Nnaji is NOT a box office hit. DVD yes. box office no. box office with a lot of hype, yes. and that is hardly on her own. Kimberly opening box office is very very very easy with the right elements.
You're moving the goalpost, girl... Who is talking about The Help? Were Kimberly Elise and Tasha Smith in that?

And I totally disagree with you on it being easy for Kim Elise to open a movie. As much as I would love to see such a thing happen, it's a reeeeeeaaaaaal long shot. Even Diary of a Mad Black Woman took off based on the cult audience Tyler Perry had already built on the chitlin circuit, not on the star power of the leading lady.
 

Angela81

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You're moving the goalpost, girl... Who is talking about The Help? Were Kimberly Elise and Tasha Smith in that?

And I totally disagree with you on it being easy for Kim Elise to open a movie. As much as I would love to see such a thing happen, it's a reeeeeeaaaaaal long shot. Even Diary of a Mad Black Woman took off based on the cult audience Tyler Perry had already built on the chitlin circuit, not on the star power of the leading lady.
I mean is Genny not also bigger than each person in the help? (I know its based on a book and its doing well stemmed from the controversy) but I have not really bought that theory yet. Based on Omoni Oboli's recent feat, (which again was hype) and what happened to Tango with me, I don't think Genny by herself is a box office hit. she has a lot of fans, but not all of them translate into ticket sales with publicity she is. Ije did better than Mirror Boy so will we say its because of Genny AND Omotola? I doubt any Nollywood star is a box office hit without the necessary backing. DVD but not box office.

and we don't have to agree on this because this debate in general is even held here during casting sessions. I think all filmmakers have this debate when the business is put on the table.
 

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yes o. I edited the post. 1 because I keep getting logged out before I finish.
You have to instruct most websites to keep you logged in. Most sane websites time you out in 15mins (if it is not Facebook or Google) unless you check the option to remain logged in (which still does not stop you from clicking logout when you're done). The 15mins timeout measure is there to protect your account, just in case you access the site on a strange PC and you leave without formally disengaging. The system assumes after 15mins of inactivity that you're gone. Just check the box and you will be fine like everybody else. When you're done, hit logout and the cookie is gone.
 

samira

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I was wondering when Take was going to join the interesting debate going on on this thread.....take, as usual, you are the best. Angie is bringing it down maan! u go girl..... and I am enjoying the thread. :)
 

kolinzo

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The only person writing based on emotion here is you. Everything you wrote there is as inappropriate as it gets as you're belittling Genny. It seems as if you don't know what is really going on in Hollywood. Kimberly Elise will never sell movies in Yankee -please take this to the bank! Black movies are not being patronized therefore they too do a lot of DVDs as an alternative to showcase their talents. So this illusion that starring alongside Kimberly would have given her exposure is inaccurate as Genny already has fans among Africans in diaspora -including African American. Which exposure are we talking about here anyway the white people? In a country where everything starts and ends with them? I laugh!

And to say black America is bigger than Ghana and Nigeria put together? What planet are you living on?! We are Africans and we don't need to come to the United States for recognition before we can validate our authenticity. Where is your pride?

Please tell us if 20% of Americans know who Amitab Bachan is. In fact let me reduce it to 2%! What about the India girl who won Ms Universe (or was it miss world)? I don't even know her name much less what she looks like. Yet these people could care less what is going on in Hollywood. Genny is a queen in her homeland (Africa) so for her to come here to become a servant is unfathomable! Please wake up and smell the coffee, shine your eyes, and put on pride and embrace the industry we are building. Hollywood does not give a damn about AFRICAN AMERICAN ACTORS and you are talking about Genny. Genny has already introduced Nollywood to the world. If Hollywood wants her they know where to find her not the other way around.

Back to the subject!

your statement is not only factually wrong but also very sentimental which is an emotion we need to get rid of if we are ever going to go anywhere.
like it or not, Hollywood IS the ultimate industry. recognition from there seals ones career.

Kimberly has been acting before Genny could spell, America, or black America is bigger than ghana and nigeria put together. British Blacks die for Kimberly, she has way more fans than any african superstar. yes, it has not been documented by her having a fanpage with members because from all indications, she is very very private. heck even Omotola has more fans than Genny on facebook. Take a Kimberly movie and Genvieve movie to a studio or netflix and lets see which one will be picked. yeah Genny has lots of fans, how many of those spend real money on a DVD? whats the quality or buying power of those fans? if your following can't translate into numbers, sorry, you are just a flash in the pan. Genny can NEVER return the same amount of money Kimberly Can return. heck Genny can't even compete with Tasha Smith in the box office.

you can continue to applaud mediocrity. thank God not everyone is satisfied with eating crumbs off the table!! as if you won't be proud to see an ad on mainstream TV of an african movie being promoted like The Help. or an african film or a film with main african cast being a number 1 box office or doing something like slumdog or even city of God, or a repeat of Tsosti by a nigerian filmaker. are you not proud of movies like Viva Riva? first Grader? a screaming man? Africa United which is being sold by PATHE? come on man. shine your eye!!

all these excuses are a pure sign of cowardice. stop settling and go for the gusto!
 

Angela81

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The only person writing based on emotion here is you. Everything you wrote there is as inappropriate as it gets as you're belittling Genny. It seems as if you don't know what is really going on in Hollywood. Kimberly Elise will never sell movies in Yankee -please take this to the bank! Black movies are not being patronized therefore they too do a lot of DVDs as an alternative to showcase their talents. So this illusion that starring alongside Kimberly would have given her exposure is inaccurate as Genny already has fans among Africans in diaspora -including African American. Which exposure are we talking about here anyway the white people? In a country where everything starts and ends with them? I laugh!

And to say black America is bigger than Ghana and Nigeria put together? What planet are you living on?! We are Africans and we don't need to come to the United States for recognition before we can validate our authenticity. Where is your pride?

Please tell us if 20% of Americans know who Amitab Bachan is. In fact let me reduce it to 2%! What about the India girl who won Ms Universe (or was it miss world)? I don't even know her name much less what she looks like. Yet these people could care less what is going on in Hollywood. Genny is a queen in her homeland (Africa) so for her to come here to become a servant is unfathomable! Please wake up and smell the coffee, shine your eyes, and put on pride and embrace the industry we are building. Hollywood does not give a damn about AFRICAN AMERICAN ACTORS and you are talking about Genny. Genny has already introduced Nollywood to the world. If Hollywood wants her they know where to find her not the other way around.

Back to the subject!
thank you. lets wait and see. abi?
 

kolinzo

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TS. thank you. I know exactly what you guys are trying to say. if all things were equal, Genny is a bigger star than Kimberly. true. Genny knows Kimberly, Kimberly does not know Genny.

BUT, all things are NOT equal. I doubt the highlighted is true when we count viewers in the whole world. Who are the people you are referring to? Nigerians? In Ghana, Genny does not pull crowd anymore I'm told. Its Jackie. The edge Kimberly or Vivica have over Genny is diverse exposure, a wider market and audience. lets be real. Apart from West Africans and a percentage of east Africans, how many people know Genny? can some random American recognize her? or her work?. when you say kimberly to most white people they say who? then you say the woman who played the wife in John Q. then they go ohhhh. can the same be said for Genny in this part of the world? But take Kimberly to Nigeria. once you say diary of a mad black woman, they know.
the stage is not equal so we should not and cannot compere. and, my post was never one intended to compare. I dont know how we got hia!

But I really doubt, that Genny has more world market than Kimberly. Like I said, even Tasha Smith has more world market because they have done work that is worldwide. You can take your film to anyone with Kimberly but Genny will only take you to Africans.

on the other hand, you may not know but good films are being made and guess who they are being made with? Jackie Appiah, Omoni, Lydia Forson et al.
Herein lies your motive all along. It's a well known fact that Genny has been taking a break (of which I find stupid) but during her break she's managed to act in Ije, a well acclaimed movie that broke box office record in Nigeria. How about that for a good movie? Anyway, you seem to be yabbing Nollywood with your sentimental Hollywood opinions, but that is expected, especially when it involves Genny. Nollywood will get there. In fact, it is already the movie haven of Africa with Genny being the queen. We love our crumbs -noted on your reply to my first post. Whether you pound yam on a leaf or cook stew in groundnut crumb, the person that will be full will be full.
 

blackbutterfly

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oh...I can attest that Angela is not Djansi. But could she possibly be on djansi's payroll? hhmmmmnnn..........
Oh, just like one can assume that YOU ARE on Genevieve's? Because it would be sad if you were doing all of these voltron work without getting paid for it, that would be indeed very sad :lol
 

samira

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a quick question: how is Desmond as a director? I don't think I've seen any of the movies he's directed.
I have seen a couple of his movies and I will suggest to him, to remain an actor for now and get better on it before attempting to direct. I do not know why all these actors start directing left right and center without any other experience other than acting. Is it a desperation move for more money or what?
 

elisawwf007

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Elisa, the 'Our World' movie, is it the one that Stephanie and uche's characters were retards or something like that? Cause I started to watch it (have the movie at home) but could not stand Uche also being a retard....her acting was just terrible and unbelievable. However, it appears to have a good storyline but Uche's part just ruined it for me.
Yes. Uche's acting was not up to par with Stephanie's. Stephanie did her thing. Anyways, this thread has lightened/brightened my day. Only Genny can generate this much interest. She is truly and superstar.
 
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