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Does King Kong Perpetuate Stereotypes?

Discussion in 'INTERNATIONAL MOVIES, TV & CELEBRITIES' started by blackbutterfly, Dec 28, 2005.

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  1. Obariba

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    See that is your point of view she proudly declared she is African ...what is wrong with that ...Im African and I dont sew my own clothes ....here we go again it all comes back to Mental Slavery and persecution complex !!!
    You guys need to let go of the pain of the past and embrace all kinds of people ...the bitterness of AFAMS turns people of every other race off !
     
  2. TVwriter23

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    Then again you weren't there it wasn't pride which I do respect, but the way she made it sound was as if we don't do anything etc. It's easy to judge words on a messageboard, but when you are there it's a whole different thing.

    It's as crazy as black Americans who say that there can be no such thing as a racist black person.
     
  4. samira

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    because an African woman hit you over the head, you still have this headache and cannot get rid of it. Of course, your world has come to an end and there is no way you can move on from this headache. See my point, you cannot allow others to get to you this way...to me, it appears that the white's that u are quick to say have issues are not the ones with one but it is actually you. if you cannot let this petty thing go, then I wonder how you deal with REAL serious issues.
     
  5. Obariba

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    TVWriter I applaude you for contributing your opinions but I hope some of the things said will open your mind ........ It is true that AFAMS generations ago suffered from slavery...So did Jews during Hitlers time -holocaust...Jewish folk have tons of family businesses....majority are Doctors and lawyers...How did they rise above their past...anti-semitism still exist but still thay excel !
     
  6. Obariba

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    African americans are really annoying , i go to a pure black school and the way this people behave is just too abnormal, they are always blaming the white people for anything they do not have. with these people there is no different between those who have been to school and those not in school. They are are always saying we are from the hood and do so many stupid things ,they do not want to do anything to improve their lives, what most of them want is getting quick money by selling drugs, you will not believe how many people in college sells drug. they are so many things these people have at their disposal to help them improve their lives.THEY SHOULD STOP ACCUSING THE WHITE PEOPLE
     
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    I think a couple of you were unfaily hard on TVW. I see all that you post here, but beyond that are things many of us cannot truly grasp. Some of these things are generational. You're talking about a people totally displaced, unable to identify with "Africa" and incapable of being accepted in and fitting in here, a place they call home, yet get rejected daily. A writer once said "Home is where they will always let you in". Where is home for the African American? Many of us stand strong and proud today because we have a root, a home, and if push gets to shove, we can tell the white man to keep his country and find our way back where someone will accept us. There is no way we can even begin to comprehend this depth of displacement.

    Secondly, many African American women are breaking the chains to find their voice. They are getting educated, running companies, getting high up in the corporate corridors. While few men are benefitting from these growing opportunities, the women are beginning to transcend a collective dark history to find that light and we need to celebrate them.

    Let us be less judgemental because it matters little how long you have been here. Until you share that dark history, you can't truly understand the psychological roadblocks the AFAMs see. We may recommend they break away from this chains, but they are already as the women reveal and in time things will fall into place. After all, true emancipation only began in the 60s. If it were that easy, how do we explain our independence since 1960 as a nation and we're simply digging deeper a grave for the union called Nigeria?
     
  9. Obariba

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    Im more concerned with the way AFAMS treat Africans. I think its so unecessary to be so unkind to people that dont come from your country !!

    I guess reading EBONY magazine made me have high expectations of AFAMs but what a big disappointment it was for me to see they are uneducated and so disrespectful !!!
     
  10. Obariba

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    This is the letter !!



    Ithought this was the most appropriate time for ALL OF US to re-read, remember and NEVER FORGET, the speech given by Willie Lynch a slave owner who over 300 years ago devised a plan to help keep Black people divided...
    Gentlemen:

    I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our lord, one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First , I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the of the colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me in my modest plantation in the West Indies where I have experimented with some of the newest and still the oldest method for control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious KING JAMES, whose BIBLE we CHERISH, I saw enough to know that our problem is not unique. While Rome used cords or wood as crosses for standing human bodies along the old highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasion.

    I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back. You are losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed, Gentleman,...You know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them.

    In my bag, I have a fool proof method for controlling your slaves. I guarantee everyone of you that if installed it will control the slaves for at least three hundred years. My method is simple, any member of your family or any OVERSEER can use it.

    I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves, and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use FEAR, DISTRUST, and ENVY for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies, and it will work throughout the SOUTH. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On the top of my list is "AGE" but it is only there because it starts with an "A"; The second is"COLOR" or shade; there is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZE OF PLANTATION, ATTITUDE of owner, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, east or west, north, south, have fine or coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action- but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST, AND ENVY IS STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION.

    The black slave, after receiving this indoctrination, shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands.

    Don't forget you must pitch the old black VS. the young black males, and the young black male against the old black male. You must use the dark skinned slaves VS. the light skin slaves. You must use the female VS the male, and the male VS, the female. You must always have your servants and OVERSEERS distrust all blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us.

    Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control, use them. Never miss an opportunity. My plan is guaranteed, and the good thing about this plan is that if used intensely for one year the slave will remain perpetually distrustful.


    -WILLIAM LYNCH-1772
    The letter above is one of the major problems of the African-American race today. And with this knowledge we as a race can and will over come. So with this letter still in your mind I ask that you enlighten someone else and send this letter to as many brothers and sisters. We as a race must start somewhere in learning our problems what better place than the document that started the destruction of our MOST POWERFUL RACE!!!
     
  11. Obariba

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    Did this letter work ???
     
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    That's true, but there are ignorants in every society. Same way some AFAMs do "one kine" - some others obviously more enlightened treat us with respect and even some semblance fo admiration and envy. If we focus too much on the problem ones at the detriment of those who are eager always to meet us, ask genuine questions, etc., we will end up creating a bigger chasm than the one that already exists between us. But I cannot speak for anyone, since our experiences will differ to some extent. I speak only for myself.
     
  13. Obariba

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    I do agree that there are a few that are really nice (mostly come from the south) but the ones that are bad are really,really bad ! But anyway I moved away from the areas that have the uptight AFAMS and now live in a state and city were they are pretty decent maybe because the ones here integrate more with a lot of carribeans.
     
  14. samira

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    Right! We were not generalizing but referring to those who carry along with them to the movies an exercise book and a pen to write a thesis about king kong race issues. Even some South African blacks who watched the movie as well did not write about it. Apparantly, some know when to move on!
     
  15. Obariba

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    I hope I never see the day that when I view a movie - rather than enjoy it ...turn it into a race issue !!! Africans are not perfect but we are certainly not petty !!! Its scary that some AFAM parent will indoctrinate their family on how movies like King Kong are racist....Black American kids dont stand a chance in this country ! They are taught to be paranoid about everything including a movie !
     
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    Boy, this thread really shows how close minded some of you Nigerians are. If you don't understand something, ASK, don't just go judging people right off the bat. It's amazing how you ask AFAMs to come to your country, but yet, you've done nothing to improve it. How many non AFAMS come to your country and continue to rape her because of the colonial mentality that white is might or white is right. Poeople if you want others to understand your culture and have genuine interest in, you must be willing to do the same. All this name calling is really making 'Nigerians look bad. For those none Nigerians on this forum, please note that just like in every race, Nigerians also have some of the 'ignoramuses' in them as well.
     
  17. Obariba

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    White is might and white is right whether we accept it or not slavery or no slavery ! Name calling or not ! A movie is what it is a movie.....there is what is called freedom of speech and artistic expression. Nigerians dont need to call names to look bad.Nigerians already look bad (419 image) but guess what......... at least we aint blaming the WHITE man !!!
     
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    OB, this thread has gone way past the movie, it has become an attack of the AFAM's to the point where names like 'akata' is used in a few posts. It's not rocket science to stick to the point of a thread especially one that has become as voliatile as this one. Even the thread starter has dissapeared!!
     
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    Point very well taken! You hit the nail on the head, all these finger pointing and genralization are a result of pure ignorance (before anyone gets upset at that term, please look it up to see what it means), that Nigerians quickly blame AFAM's. Yet they don't see the part they play in throwing the racism B.S. right around. Generalization of 'black' are what started all this mess to begin with. In other words, ignorance is bliss.
     
  20. Obariba

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    When the King Kong movie is tagged RACIST that is ignorance !
    What was worse the Holocoust or Slavery ? Bunch of excuses ! The white homosapian has the same body structure as the Black homosapian so why must the black complain ?

    ...and how has the white man caused Nigeria to be the way it is ? This country USA is the way it is because of the white man....slaves could have returned to Liberia when they had the chance...some did and others loved "Masa Mo" so much they had to stay and complain and blame...blame...blame !!!!
     
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