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Drama as Emeka Ike emerges New AGN President

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Obariba

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That matter is no more than politricks. Not even worth the debate. Arinze already addressed it elsewhere here on NR. If someone who trained at the University of Ife (I believe I'm right) under the great Chuck Mike (one year Certificate in Dramatic Arts, CDA) is not an Actor's Guild member, even after serving on executives and boards at lower levels, it is an engineer who should be a member? Its a non-issue. Let the best man triumph for the glory of the Guild abeg...
It means he is not a CURRENT card carrying member ...meaning he is not current with his dues and failed to follow the appropriate protocol that keeps him a member of the guild. Based on that he does not qualify this year ...maybe next time he could return to stand for election when his membership is in good standing and up to date. It is absolutely wrong to even defend such a situation - if he is irresponsible enough to think he can bypass a basic membership requirment how can he become an efficient president ???
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#62
thank you!
mr arinze runs circles around He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named-I with his hands tied behind his back and one eye closed in ANY role.

i hate to break it to ike but he (ike) is not really a good actor, but mr arinze IS a good actor and has proved his mettle with his various roles.

i am truly and thorougly disgusted with this whole AGN issue, and mr arinze should remove himself post-haste from this and let them run the show, then when they have destroyed it, he and other like minded individuals can now build it back up.

disgusting. :056:
Ike is an Actor thats what count being a "good" actor is not the criteria to stand for leadership election to the guild - Im very disappointed with Arinze to be honest ...he should have followed the right protocol.Maybe if took a couple more college courses he would know better .
 

Field Marshal

ABSOLUTE SUPREME RULER
#63
Emeka Ike had described Segun Arinze as a ‘joker’, adding that, “Segun is not AGN president and he cannot be one. Constitutionally, he is not eligible to be a president because I learnt he is not a degree holder and not even a card carrying member.

“You can ask him to present his certificate the same way I’m ready to present mine any time.
He added that with the support of AGN members in the country, all hands have been on deck to conduct a free and fair elections.

Elected alongside Ike were Mr. Femi Durojiaye, (National Secretary), Mohammed Odoko, (vice-president, North Central), Sanni Mohammed(vice-president, North east)Yusuf Bako Mohammed, (vice-president, South-South), Nkiru Sylvanus(vice-presidet, South-East) and Victor Edogun(vice-president, South-West).

Others were, Benita Nzeribe(PRO), Ngozi Onoka(D.G.S), Azi Oliver Akalugu(Finance Secretary), St. Maradona N. Johnson(Treasurer) and Amniu Abdaulla Tafia, who clinched the position of Assistant secretary.

Vanguard
:happy024: Witi dat her small girl sleepy pesin crying look, she go dey cry during meetings bicos sey she no laiki de ting wey dem dey tok?sweat:
 

sidney

Well-Known Member
#64
Ike is an Actor thats what count being a "good" actor is not the criteria to stand for leadership election to the guild - Im very disappointed with Arinze to be honest ...he should have followed the right protocol.Maybe if took a couple more college courses he would know better .
hahahahaha!! Haba Obariba!!! :laugh: E no good oh! :roll
 

sidney

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#65
It means he is not a CURRENT card carrying member ...meaning he is not current with his dues and failed to follow the appropriate protocol that keeps him a member of the guild. Based on that he does not qualify this year ...maybe next time he could return to stand for election when his membership is in good standing and up to date. It is absolutely wrong to even defend such a situation - if he is irresponsible enough to think he can bypass a basic membership requirment how can he become an efficient president ???
You know these are very good points. You can't run for president of any reputable organization without being a fully accredited member.
 

chi

Well-Known Member
#66
it means he is not a current card carrying member ...meaning he is not current with his dues and failed to follow the appropriate protocol that keeps him a member of the guild. Based on that he does not qualify this year ...maybe next time he could return to stand for election when his membership is in good standing and up to date. It is absolutely wrong to even defend such a situation - if he is irresponsible enough to think he can bypass a basic membership requirment how can he become an efficient president ???
true
 

Thickmadam

OHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHH!!
#67
Ike is an Actor thats what count being a "good" actor is not the criteria to stand for leadership election to the guild - Im very disappointed with Arinze to be honest ...he should have followed the right protocol.Maybe if took a couple more college courses he would know better .
forgive me, i have not been actively following this AGN president war, so i wasn't aware that arinze wasn't a member. i didn't even think that any person would run for post in an organization he is not a member of. i just assumed, by virtue of the fact that he ran for the post, that he was a member of the AGN.
that's like me going to run for president of the engineering club...i'm an accountant for pete's sake!

thank you for the correction.
 

nike007

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#68
Oh so it is not as if....if u r an actor then u be automatic member??....nna nawa oooo...owukwa organization for naija ka anyi na fu??
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#69
About Actors guild and the purpose it serves to "paid" members !!

ACTORS GUILD OF NIGERIA - CORPORATE PROFILE

The actors guild of Nigeria was given birth to, as Nigeria Actors Guild, with the coming on stream of the Motion Picture Industry in Nigeria, between late 19992 and early 1993. Then, the Motion Picture Industry in Nigeria was just having her teeth cut primarily as an occupational ambit for the love of drama and at a substance level. Prior to the shoot of Living in Bondage that has been erroneously given the credit for midwifing Nollywood. (The Motion Picture Industry in Nigeria) because of the emerging but nascent distribution outlet backed up by a vociferous print media in the South-West geopolitical zone of our country (precisely Enugu & Aba), including Television Soaps, before the shoot of Living in Bondage.



However, five men Prince Ifeanyi Dike, Emmanuel Ogugua, Okey MacAnthony Onyegbule, Sunny McDon W, Mrurphy Stephens) made history by having their names written in gold through the registration of the Nigerian Actors Guild with the Corporate Affairs Commission in Abuja. As a Professional Association, with them as pioneer members of the Board of trustees.



With the above trail blazing feat came the emergence of other professional Associations that ultimately precipitated this phenomenon called Nollywood.



From inception and spanning through 2004, there had been several administrations that steered the ship of our Association, both at the national and States Chapter levels, respectively.



Over the year this flagship (initially christened Nigerian Actors Guild in 1994) but later registered in 1998 as the actors Guild of Nigeria, has members elected to the administrative saddle starting with the under listed interim Pioneer National Executive




However, the 3-months industry recess that kick-started in January, 2002 became the catalyst that provided the platform for the resurgence of some apparent comatose Associations in the Movie Industry like the Directors Guild of Nigeria (D.G.N) and Association of Movie Producers (A.M.P) while having to give birth to other professional

Associations such as Creative Designers Guild of Nigeria (C.D.G.N), Nigerian Society of Editors (N.S.E), Nigerian Society of Cinematographers (N.S.C), Screen Writers Guild of Nigeria (S.W.G.N) with the C.M.P.P.N. (Conference of Motion Pictures Practitioners of Nigeria) as a professional umbrella body, housing the respective Guilds and Associations that constitute the phenomenon referred to, as NOLLYWOOD. Please note that C.M.P.P.N referred to above, is now moribund.



At the epicenter of all the activities, as a hub was an experiment at proffering an article industry’s central working committee, that had some of the finest actors as members notably, Ejike Asiegbu, Kanayo O. Kanayo, Hilda Doubo Mrakpo. Mention must be made of the trio namely Ignis Ekwe, Acho Ugenyi and Tarry West who reengineered a constitution with the production of the first ever “Actors Hand Book” that clearly spelt out other things, an all encompassing welfare package, for Actors (Male/Female) in the Motion Pictures Industry, in Nigeria.



In 2002, the first ever keenly contested Actors Guild of Nigeria (A.G.N) election at State Chapter level held in Lagos State and piloted by Messrs Steve Eboh (AGNEC Chairman), Acho Ugenyi (AGNEC Sectary) and Tarry West (Member).



The Lagos State Chapter election saw the emergence of Remy Ohajianya (Chairman), Obot Otuk (Vice Chairman), Lugard Onoyemu (State Chapter Secretary), Emeka Rollas Ejezie (Public Relation Officer), Kanayo Mokwe (Financial Secretary), Jude Ezenwa (Late) (Treasurer), Andy Chukwu (Director) of Guild Services, Chidi Ihuoma (Chief Whip) with the Most Rev. (Dr.) Daddy Hezekiah (the founder and General Superintendent of Living Christ Mission) as her pioneer Grand Patron, with the Lagos State Chapter’s corporate office situated at the National Council for Arts & Culture complex, National Theatre, Iganmu.



The above feat witnessed the emergence of additional 16 (Sixteen Chapters) State Chapters of the Actors Guild of Nigeria namely: Enugu State Chapter, Anambra State Chapter, Imo State Chapter, Abia State Chapter, Ebonyi State Chapter, Rivers State Chapter, Cross River State Chapter, Akwa Ibom State Chapter, Bayelsa State Chapter, Delta State Chapter, Edo State Chapter, Kano State Chapter, Kaduna State Chapter, Niger State Chapter, Abuja State Chapter, Nassarawa State Chapter, with all the above chapters situated in their State Capitals in conformity with constitutional provisions.



Prior to the review of the Guild’s Constitution that scaled through the stages of reading and final adoption on 27th of June, 2007 by the Congress (an amalgam of the national Executive Council and all the States Chapter Chairman or their Secretaries), the life span of every administration at both the National and State Chapter levels had been a two-year single term. But now it is a four-year single term.



In the same year 2002, elections to the various posts at the national Level, anchored by Veteran Actor Samloco Efe, Acho Ugenyi, Diewait Ikpechuku, precipitated the coming on stream of an ebullient Actor, Zack Orji’s (National President) administration.



The year, 2005 ushered in, elections in all the State Chapters of the Guild with some officers retaining their positions, while others lost to the injection of new blood at the polls.



Finally, the current Ejike Asiegbu led – National Executive Council came on stream through the ballot box in Abuja, on the 23rd of April, 2005 while her investiture took place on the 7th of June, 2005 at the Nicon-Noga Hilton Hotel (Congress Hall), Abuja with the crème de la crème of society, diplomats, politicians, civil liberty organizations and the established Actors inclusive, in attendance connoting the trappings of pomp and pageantry. It is instructive to state here that the president, Acho Ugenyi-National Secretary, Steve Eboh – Zonal Vice President South-South, Francis Maikerfi – Zonal Vice President North-West, France Aeranan – Zonal Vice President North-Central , Stanley Mba – Assistant National Secretary, Kate Henshaw – Nuttall – National Public Realtions Officer, Cyril Ibe – Financial Secretary, Oriakhi Lamptay – Assistant Financial Secretary, Oby Kate Okafor – National Treasurer, Ekwunife Oranyelu Roy-Director of Guild Services, Elizabeth Ofuani – Chief Whip, Oku Ita (HP) Ex-Officio, Ojudayi Theresa –Exco-Officio, Nnamdi Godwin Ex-Officio.



The purposeful and visionary leadership of Ejike Asiegbu (National President) has brought in it’s wake, the fanning out of the Guild, covering twenty-two State as against the seventeen State Chapters, on assumption of office with the institution of satellite chapters in Anambra State, Enugu State, Delta State and Bonny in Rivers State, with others on the drawing board. This administration at the National level introduced a baking culture underscored by probity, transparency and accountability (Guild’s registration forms, Election forms and copies of the Guild’s Constitution are all domiciled and obtained from the Guild’s official bankers).


WELFARE:

A trail blazing welfare scheme anchored on a group insurance scheme (with a brokerage firm, Silver Street Insurance Brokers as the Consortium leader over the participation of notable insurance companies) was put in place covering all classes of Insurance namely: (a) ill-health (b) Accident occasioning temporary disability and permanent disability (c) death.



CAPABILITY BUILDING:

(a) Seminars/Workshops are on stream with a view to getting members better quipped professionally, engender cross pollination of artistic/theatrical ideas, and further entrench the tenets of mission statement professionalism.

(b) The institution of capacity building innovations through the participation of members of the Guild in Film Festivals onshore and offshore have instigated the growth and sustenance of artistic preserve.



BRANDING:

The Guild at the National level has embarked on a conscientious drive towards employing the use of members as brand models for adverts/branding regarding corporate products on radio, television, calendars, billboards and runways.



Prospects abound for the quotation of the Actors Gild of Nigeria at the Stock Exchange, by the current national Executive.


MEMBERSHIP INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES:

Discussions have also been established with Brokerage Firms for the engineering of investment propensity that will witness members of the Guild both at National and Sate level purchase stock and shares.



HOUSING:

Discussions have been instituted with estate developers, with a view to erecting various categories of houses for members of the Guild on an owner occupier basis.



The Guild’s new letter, National websites (OpenDNS) incorporating all the members of Actors Guild of Nigeria on shore and offshore, Guild’s National Body in several collaborative initiatives with corporate organization, the allocation of land in Abuja to the National Executive for the construction of an all embracing ultra-modern Corporate National headquarters of the Guild, all have been achieved by the present Ejike Asiegbu - led national Executive.



CONFLICT RESOLUTION:

A Memorandun of Understanding was signed on February 1, 2007 between the Board of Trustees represented by Prince Ifeanyi Dike (Chairman Board of Trustees), Emmanuel Ogugua (Vice Chairman Board of Trustees), Okey McAnthony (Bakassi) Onyegbule (Member Board of Trustees) and the National Executive of the Actors Guild of Nigeria represented by Ejike Asiegbu (National President), Acho Ugenyi (National Secretary), Chuma Onwudiwe (Special Adviser/Special Duties to the National President), and which ushered in peace and stability in the Guild, while the case was withdrawn from the Chief Magistrate Court Igbosere on the 30th of may 2007.



The peace meeting which precipitated the stated memorandum of Understanding was jointly engineered by Chief Joseph Odobeatu (Chairman/CEO O’JEZ Restaurant) and Chief Abogo (Managing Director/CEO Downtown Salon Bode Thomas, Surulere) and witnessed by their Layers-Barr. Aham Njoku for the National Executive of the Actors Guild of Nigeria, Barr. Y.D.U. Hambali for the Board of Trustees of the Actors Guild of Nigeria, Zack orjii, the immediate past president of the Actors Guild of Nigeria and Chief Joseph Odobeatu, Chairman/CEO O’JEZ Restaurant.



The clauses were as follows:

The meeting affirmed that all authority over all issues of discipline with news AGN is domiciled with the National and States Executive.

There is to be an expansion of the present Board of Trustees along geopolitical and demographic lines. This is order to make it a truly and nationally representative Board.

It was affirmed that the Board of Trustees is purely an advisory position and members of the Board should act only within that capacity at all times.

There is to be greater communication between the National Executive or via emergency meetings as the case may be.

The National Executive was mandated to immediately review the constitution for adoption.

It was also agreed that an incumbent President is an automatic member of the Board of Trustees for the duration of his tenure.

This agreement does not in anyway affect cases of members or officers already disciplined by the National Executive or about to be discipline. The National Executive was advised to review any case that deserves revisiting.

This Memorandum of Understanding is to be signed by all the parties at the meeting and countersigned by their layers.

This Memorandum of Understanding is to be read out to the public at a joint press conference.

No member of AGN is allowed to deal directly with the Board of Trustees except through the National Executive.

The National Executive of AGN is to take immediate steps to discontinue all legal proceedings against the Board of Trustees at the Lagos State Chief Magistrate Court so as to achieve real and lasting peace.



The above resolutions are building on all parties.



NATIONAL EXECUTIVE END OF TENURE PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL:

A communiqué was signed dated 27th June, 2007 in which reflected the under listed achievements in regard to the joint meeting of the National Executive council and the States chapter Chairman or their Secretaries or their representatives hereinafter referred to as the congress, which sat this day the 27th of June, 2007 at the Conference Hall of Royal Palace Hotel, Agbani road, Garriki Enugu, Enugu State.



The National President addresses the House on the state of the Guild and the challenges ahead. Thereafter, he invited the Chairman to address the House on the problems and prospects attendant to their various states of jurisdiction or chapters.

In attendance for the meeting, were the chairmen of the 22 State Chapters of the Guild or their Secretaries or their representatives.

The chairman extensively briefed the House on the problems and prospects of the respective States of jurisdiction or Chapters.

The new Actors Guild of Nigeria 2007 Constitution, was read to the House by Chuma Onwudiwe, the Secretary of the Constitution Review Committee, and was deliberated upon and adopted after minor amendments were made.

The House was informed of the recent decision of the National Executive to review the cases of the indicted officers and members who were expelled. Consequently, their expulsion has been reduced to two years suspension, with effect from 1st of July, 2007.

The House or Congress passed a vote of implicit confidence in the National Executive and gave it one year from the date of adoption of the new 2007 Constitution within which to conduct the States Chapter Elections, National Election, stabilize the Guild and continue the good work of repositioning and reforms.

The State Chapter elections have been slated for commencement, with effect from the end of August, 2007 after compliance with the provisions of the constitution and the Electoral guidelines.

The memorandum of Understanding which finally brought to an end the recent crisis in the Guild was read to the House and applauded.

The State Chapter Chairman sought for clarifications on several issues and the clarifications were given by the National President.

The State Chapter were advised to stimulate and reposition themselves to become investment friendly, write scripts for productions that will reflect their diverse cultural heritage, in conjunction with the aspirants of Government.

The Congress congratulated the National President and National Executive for their perseverance and commitment in the face of distractions. The House particularly commended the National Executive for the mature but firm manner with which they guided the Guild during the last crisis. The House noted the progress that has been made on so many fronts since then, and urged the national Executive not to rest on their oars.

The members of the house or congress took turns to to praise the efforts of the national Executive and assured them of their firm and unflinching support at all times.

The curtains were drawn on the meeting finally at 9:15 pm with a motion for adjournment moved by Cyril Ibe and seconded by Oku Ita while closing prayers were said by Alhaji (Barrister) Abdu Jidda and Nkese Ama Ignis, respectively.



The above communiqué was signed by Ejike Asiegbu (National President) and Acho Ugenyi (National Secretary)



On the 13th of December, 2008 comes another election, delegates from 26 States of the nation will emerge to decide who will be the next president of Actors Guild of Nigeria


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(example of fee structure for membership of a Screen actors guild USA)

[edit] Initiation fee and membership dues
Members joining the Los Angeles, New York, or Miami SAG locals are assessed an initial fee to join the Guild of $2,277. At the time of initiation, the first minimum semi-annual membership dues payment of $58 must also be paid, bringing the total amount due upon initiation into the Guild to $2,335.[6] All other SAG locals still assess initiation fees at the previous rate. Members from other locals who work in Los Angeles, New York, or Miami after joining are charged the difference between the fee they paid their local and the higher rate in those markets.

Membership dues are calculated and are due semi-annually, and are based upon the member's earnings from SAG productions. The minimum annual dues amount is $116, with an additional 1.85% of the performer's income up to $200K. Income from $200K to $500K is assessed at 0.5%, and income from $500K to $1M is assessed at 0.25%. For the calculation of dues, there is a total earnings cap at $1M. Therefore, the maximum dues payable in any one calendar year by any single member is limited to $6,566.

SAG members who become delinquent in their dues without formally requesting a leave of absence from the Guild are assessed late penalties, and risk being ejected from the Guild and can be forced to pay the initiation fee again to regain their membership.

[edit] Global Rule One
The SAG Constitution and Bylaws state that, "No member shall work as a performer or make an agreement to work as a performer for any producer who has not executed a basic minimum agreement with the Guild which is in full force and effect."[7] Every SAG performer agrees to abide by this, and all the other SAG rules, as a condition of membership into the Guild. This means that no SAG members may perform in non-union projects that are within SAG's jurisdiction, once they become members of the Guild. Since 2002, the Guild has pursued a policy of world-wide enforcement of Rule One, and renamed it Global Rule One.

However, many actors, particularly those who do voices for anime dubs, have worked for non-union productions under pseudonyms. For example, David Cross did voices for the non-union cartoon Aqua Teen Hunger Force, under the pseudonym "Sir Willups Brightslymoore." He acknowledged that work in an interview with Suicidegirls.com.[8] Such violations of Global Rule One have generally gone ignored by the Guild.

Details about Guilds ...its like a Union ...members have obligations ...and cant reap its benefits unless they meet their yearly obligations ..talkless of stand for elections.


Shame on them their website doesnt even work... (www.actorguildofnigerianational.com)
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#70
hahahahaha!! Haba Obariba!!! :laugh: E no good oh! :roll
:cow: whether we like it or not we come from a society that respects degrees...and I dont see anything wrong with that - he can come back in four year(with a degree and up to date membership card) just in time to receive the mantle from Emeka Ike whose tenure ends in 4 yrs .


You know these are very good points. You can't run for president of any reputable organization without being a fully accredited member.
Its like a union... to benefit or participate u garra pay up ...and follow the rules as listed inthe constitution ...no magu magu !!!.

forgive me, i have not been actively following this AGN president war, so i wasn't aware that arinze wasn't a member. i didn't even think that any person would run for post in an organization he is not a member of i just assumed, by virtue of the fact that he ran for the post, that he was a member of the AGN.
that's like me going to run for president of the engineering club...i'm an accountant for pete's sake!

thank you for the correction.
He might have been a due paying registered member in the past but it appeares at the present moment he does not have a valid membership card at least as of the time of the election and did not meet the college degree requirment.


Oh so it is not as if....if u r an actor then u be automatic member??....nna nawa oooo...owukwa organization for naija ka anyi na fu??
There is no automatic member oooh u garra obtain the handbook ..get ur card and keep it current ....to benefit from the many programs that they implement that protect and advocate for its member actors :)
 
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dododudu

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#71
...perhaps all graduates from nigerian universities were in cults,bribed lecturers or slept their ways through...isn't it?...

sometimes i wonder why we are so abusive!...if you don't agree with the stipulation of a graduate in AGN constitution,fine...but why indicate that it can only produce a flawed graduate?...that definitely is flawed logic itself...are those doctors and nurses who come to the U.S and get readily absorbed into the system not from the same universities?....
Are you talking to ME?!

You want us to really get into the yawa of degrees and ways some got it? IF you worked hard and got your degree(s) by merit, you will NOT be bragging in the market place about it!! because you would value it better and see it as just a part of life and WILL NOT rub it into the face of others that were NOT opportune to get same kind of educational benefit!! There are people in Nigeria (in fact, the world over) who really crave for education and DO NOT get it because NO ONE can pay for them!!
So, anyone who was lucky enough to have family cater to their educational expenses should not open their big eyes and big mouths to taunt others who dont have it now! There may have been so many reasons why they dont!

You think if Nigeria was liek USA where people start working at 18 to cater for their needs and NOT have to keep asking parents for 'school fees' even in adulthood, a lot of people would never have gone to school! WE SHOULD all hail our parents who paid tuition all the way through Universities for us!
dammit!
 

bigmomma

Well-Known Member
#73
thank you!
mr arinze runs circles around He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named-I with his hands tied behind his back and one eye closed in ANY role.

i hate to break it to ike but he (ike) is not really a good actor, but mr arinze IS a good actor and has proved his mettle with his various roles.

i am truly and thorougly disgusted with this whole AGN issue, and mr arinze should remove himself post-haste from this and let them run the show, then when they have destroyed it, he and other like minded individuals can now build it back up.

disgusting. :056:
when i read this on onlinenigeria i was like who in the world died and made emeka ike daddy to errbody with his no talent acting self? yes i said it, he no sabi act after he will be rolling his eyes as if he is a tomato seller at iyanapaja. (insert long hiss)
 

luciano

Well-Known Member
#74
Are you talking to ME?!

You want us to really get into the yawa of degrees and ways some got it? IF you worked hard and got your degree(s) by merit, you will NOT be bragging in the market place about it!! because you would value it better and see it as just a part of life and WILL NOT rub it into the face of others that were NOT opportune to get same kind of educational benefit!! There are people in Nigeria (in fact, the world over) who really crave for education and DO NOT get it because NO ONE can pay for them!!
So, anyone who was lucky enough to have family cater to their educational expenses should not open their big eyes and big mouths to taunt others who dont have it now! There may have been so many reasons why they dont!

You think if Nigeria was liek USA where people start working at 18 to cater for their needs and NOT have to keep asking parents for 'school fees' even in adulthood, a lot of people would never have gone to school! WE SHOULD all hail our parents who paid tuition all the way through Universities for us!
dammit!
...of course you know i was talking to you!...

...you know what?...there is nothing to challenge in what you have just said because nothing there proves that Nigerian graduates cannot be respected
...and situations where some so called graduates present taiwo street certificates or can't write the Queen's English or can rap in pidgin only prove nothing either...
..despite all the mud there are very good products from the Nigerian educational set-up to disprove that they are all cult members,bribing layabouts and whores...earlier this year when a set of undergraduates from unibadan beat all other students from Africa in a ZAIN organised quiz competition i expected much better comments from here than i got...but i should not have been surprised,i suppose, at the almost deafening silence...
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#75
...of course you know i was talking to you!...

...you know what?...there is nothing to challenge in what you have just said because nothing there proves that Nigerian graduates cannot be respected
...and situations where some so called graduates present taiwo street certificates or can't write the Queen's English or can rap in pidgin only prove nothing either...
..despite all the mud there are very good products from the Nigerian educational set-up to disprove that they are all cult members,bribing layabouts and whores...earlier this year when a set of undergraduates from unibadan beat all other students from Africa in a ZAIN organised quiz competition i expected much better comments from here than i got...but i should not have been surprised,i suppose, at the almost deafening silence...

u should know folks here are not very good at giving pats on the back ...I understand why the constitution would prefer an incumbent president to have a degree ...cos in ur year one u are most likely going to take courses that would aide ur leadership in the guild esp when it comes to securing certain benefits for the actors ..the position is not tied to the strength of ur acting ability but rather to leadership and organising ...and a college degree truly makes a difference in that context !
 

luciano

Well-Known Member
#76
:cow: whether we like it or not we come from a society that respects degrees...and I dont see anything wrong with that - he can come back in four year(with a degree and up to date membership card) just in time to receive the mantle from Emeka Ike whose tenure ends in 4 yrs .




Its like a union... to benefit or participate u garra pay up ...and follow the rules as listed inthe constitution ...no magu magu !!!.





He might have been a due paying registered member in the past but it appeares at the present moment he does not have a valid membership card at least as of the time of the election and did not meet the college degree requirment.




There is no automatic member oooh u garra obtain the handbook ..get ur card and keep it current ....to benefit from the many programs that they implement that protect and advocate for its member actors :)

...100% correct!...if emeka challenges segun for not being a graduate as required by AGN constitution what has he done wrong?...is this not a union activity?...whether he shouts it or not...whether he says it angrily or not...whether he even looks like someone talking down to segun what exactly is his fault?...may be if segun had been around they would both have been using broken bottles or chairs as is done in many places all over the world!...
 

sidney

Well-Known Member
#77
...of course you know i was talking to you!...

...you know what?...there is nothing to challenge in what you have just said because nothing there proves that Nigerian graduates cannot be respected
...and situations where some so called graduates present taiwo street certificates or can't write the Queen's English or can rap in pidgin only prove nothing either...
..despite all the mud there are very good products from the Nigerian educational set-up to disprove that they are all cult members,bribing layabouts and whores...earlier this year when a set of undergraduates from unibadan beat all other students from Africa in a ZAIN organised quiz competition i expected much better comments from here than i got...but i should not have been surprised,i suppose, at the almost deafening silence...
u should know folks here are not very good at giving pats on the back ...I understand why the constitution would prefer an incumbent president to have a degree ...cos in ur year one u are most likely going to take courses that would aide ur leadership in the guild esp when it comes to securing certain benefits for the actors ..the position is not tied to the strength of ur acting ability but rather to leadership and organising ...and a college degree truly makes a difference in that context !

The two of you are making excellent points...

I guess the issue about the statement is the way the lack of a degree (from anywhere) can be hurled as an insult. It almost is laughable to me. Oprah, Tiger Woods, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison (CEO of Oracle) all don't have degrees. And specifically acting, especially here in the US, there is a very small percentage that have degrees of any kind. And it does not preclude you from being the president of SAG or EQUITY or the head of the directors guild or any other reputable union or organization. Statements like that, seem to be uniquely Nigerian, maybe even African in nature.

Now if the articles of the AGN constitution states that the president needs to be a college grad, and the Emeka Ike statement was made in specific reference to that article, then I understand and it makes total sense.
 

sidney

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...100% correct!...if emeka challenges segun for not being a graduate as required by AGN constitution what has he done wrong?...is this not a union activity?...whether he shouts it or not...whether he says it angrily or not...whether he even looks like someone talking down to segun what exactly is his fault?...may be if segun had been around they would both have been using broken bottles or chairs as is done in many places all over the world!...
Right! I totally agree!! I guess some people, including myself, weren't sure that was why the comment was made. If that was the reason then it makes total sense!
 

luciano

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why do u folks get carried away by image ,skills etc ...he is wrong not to register as a member but come forth to be president ..that is garbage ....NIGERIANS LEARN TO FOLLOW THE RULES ...so our country can move forward !!!
...emeka was not even the first person to announce or tell the world that segun was not a graduate and was therefore not qualified...many in the KOK camp did many months ago...Bricks also reported many moons ago about the emphatic statement made byt KOK on this...if some people here want to hang emeka abeg let them look for another rope...if i were a member and the constitution did not even specify it i could still have used it to challenge segun no matter what those who do not believe in the utility of a degree or degreeS think...at least you must be able to tell me that you know how and why a theatre arts department is not in the faculty of social sciences...

...the idea that graduateship is being emphasised for leadership in Naija is VERY FALSE!...in fact the situation is the opposite...how many politicians at LGA,STATE. and FEDERAL levels are graduates?...i don't know about Ghana or other African countries but the naija constitution prescribes only school certificate...so all issues being raised about people without degrees have no basis at all...in fact they are confirmations of support for the rot here...largely caused because many good graduates are being relegated to the background...emeka happens to be one of them and he should hold firmly to the provisions of the AGN constitution...whether he decides to look like a fine boy or a masquerade does not matter...DIS NA UNION WAHALA...no be so?...
 

luciano

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The two of you are making excellent points...

I guess the issue about the statement is the way the lack of a degree (from anywhere) can be hurled as an insult. It almost is laughable to me. Oprah, Tiger Woods, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison (CEO of Oracle) all don't have degrees. And specifically acting, especially here in the US, there is a very small percentage that have degrees of any kind. And it does not preclude you from being the president of SAG or EQUITY or the head of the directors guild or any other reputable union or organization. Statements like that, seem to be uniquely Nigerian, maybe even African in nature.

Now if the articles of the AGN constitution states that the president needs to be a college grad, and the Emeka Ike statement was made in specific reference to that article, then I understand and it makes total sense.
...my dear man,please see my highlighted...was oshiomole a graduate before he became NLC leader in Nigeria?...you people are just making false assumptions and therefore arriving at wrong conclusions...in my last post i stated that for public posts here only school cert is required by the constitution except of course where specialist qualifications are required for professional jobs like for legal or medical posts...my view is that this requirement in our constitution has discounted rather than enhanced degrees in Nigeria...again there is something you seem to forget about those without degrees in the US compared with those in Naija...this is the degree of AWARENESS OR EXPOSURE on each side that can be applied to leadership demands...my thoughts are that AGN specified a degree holder based on likely EXPOSURE and not because of fondness for the toilet paper!...
 
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