Extremely Challenging Nollywood roles

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takestyle

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@1st highlighted u right, very right!
@2nd highlighted, i really think the money does not even motivate them.
Think of Desperate housewives, Lynette Scavo scrapped all her hair off
when she had cancer or something and there is no doubt that she is going
to be paid handsomely for that.
Felicity Huffman did not actually shave her head, though...
 

sky_flies

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No, smart woman :laugh: Arrrhhhh!!! hope u know I was kiddin ya :1244:


there is no place where it says that the actress MUST be the one to actually perform the sex scene if a movie calls for it. afterall, most of those amercian movies which aren't porn but calls for real sex scenes, you think it is the actual big name actress who is perfomring the act in all cases? why do you think halle berry's supposed performance in that monster movie was such a big deal? i don't think omot erred in not being the one actually performing the sex scene (biko she's a married woman no matter what her profession is and how much she is being paid), body doubles gats to eat too, abi? U are most accurate in this thread and we are almost saying the same thing only that I bluff and mess around at times. Its not a crime to play a sex scene but its indeed a disappointment not to take a challenge. Angelina was nude in Original Sin, Halle Berry did same in Monster Ball, Keri was nude in Last king of scotland, Charlize Theron was nude in Monster..... they all cant be forgotten for the challenge in as much as they are other actresses who choose to use doubles. U remain a star even wen u choose not to take a challenge but u'd also be sure dat people wil be disappointed. Shan George can never be forgotten becuz wat she portrayed in outkast.... thsts wat I call guts. Omot's not playin the nude scene in the prostitute aint makin the movie less a classic dat it is, it only portrays her as not ready for challenges. For peace sakes, I take my comments back..... Omot didnt err.


And, the movie was not just about playing a prostitute, the movie, in my own opinion, was trying to explore why this innocent young woman became a prostitute, the circumstances that led to her going down this path, and how she tried to overcome it, the trials and tribulations she had to endure and face down, and finding love only to have the rug pulled from under her feet. Halle Berry's havin sex in the Monster Ball wasnt wat the movie was about, Angelina Jolie's bill and coo attitude with Banderas wasnt wat the movie was about...... to make it seem real to the viewers (like me dat like sex scenes) u gatta sometimes go extra miles.


please sky, i don't think that there is anything wrong with SDA not scrapping her hair for the movie, if you were married to an actress, would you want your wife to
a) perform actual sex with a man in a role she's playing?
b) cut off her ALL her hair for a role?
c) go naked for a role? Ehm!!!!! Yes! Acting isnt for the scary, its for the venturesome. Yes! If I meet d woman after she had excelled her acting carreer (like Gene, Rita.....) I would allow her 2 scrap her hair if she wants to. Thickmadam, hair no be issue at all at all. She can also go naked in the movie if she wants to but Id be right there maybe Id even do the whole camera jobs. At mention of have sex with another penis??? Hell No!!! Dats hidden pornography- she fit like dat one pass my one later, there is always a quest for more. There is sex after sex after each porn movie. Jah bears me witness on dis..... I for one dont give a f**k about wat people say, lips can lash fo all I care. Id only have my mother cry for some days and she will eventually get tired of carry my palava

please be sincere in your answer. (i don't know how old you are so in your youthful exuberance you might answer yes to these questions but give it serious thought before you answer) My dear, im under 15 but my brains accumulate dat on a 40yrs old wise man.... I grew up in Ngwa village, I don chop human being meat so tey I don wise

as for critical decision, there were ways that nnaji and the director could have played that scene, but taking into account the period the movie was produced, i don't blame them for taking that route. Nnaji erred period, I hear she was paid 3million Naira for the movie... she erred abeg
Pls e don do me
 

sky_flies

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why is Genny guilty? is she the one who is in control of the set and the production?



dude... Natalie Portman? i thought i already told you not to compare Hollywood and Nollywood here. it's apples and udala.Yaya bro u right

@ the bolded: "something remarkable"? i just said that Nollywood is not and has never been about "art"... money talks, bullshit walks. and to be honest, Hollywood is really not that different, despite the fact they try to make you believe otherwise.Hollywood is no longer based on acts. Truforia once said they are now mainly based on affects and not the cast, im with him on that. Go are the pretty days where they had formidable characters... everything is going thru cycle. Now wat they want is pretty faces, latter they would look for talents like Whoopi Goodberg, latter they'd still back to pretty faces.... there is really nothing new. The enteratinment world is in a cycle just like the world

and yes, body doubles are still widely used... all. the. damn. time. you just don't hear about it as much, because they choose not to publicize it... they'd rather the audience go on believing that they really say Jessica Alba naked in The Sleeping Dictionary or Jada Pinkett's breats in Jason's Lyric or what have you. How many guys are exclaiming about the movies u mentioned? Not the crowd bro- Lets face it, once u do the real thing u'll hear frm the real guys

like Thickmadam already said, one of the things that made Halle Berry's sex scene in Monsters Ball such a big deal was the fact that she clearly didn't use a body double, because a lot of actresses do these days. and not even just for nude scenes... they have hand doubles... hair doubles... back doubles... leg doubles... yaya u right
Id Recommend u see Black an Indian movie.... some told me of it and I saw it yesterday, till now my jaws havent been picked up. Thats a movie.... yet Oscar didnt recognize
 

takestyle

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Its not a crime to play a sex scene but its indeed a disappointment not to take a challenge. Angelina was nude in Original Sin, Halle Berry did same in Monster Ball, Keri was nude in Last king of scotland, Charlize Theron was nude in Monster..... they all cant be forgotten for the challenge in as much as they are other actresses who choose to use doubles. U remain a star even wen u choose not to take a challenge but u'd also be sure dat people wil be disappointed.
"challenge"?

my friend, it seems you didn't hear what i told you the first (and second) time: stop comparing Nollywood and Hollywood.

you're talking about Angelina Jolie and Charlize Theron and the "challenge" they rose to, as if they live in the same society as Omotola.

do you realize that if you do a sex scene like Monsters Ball or Original Sin in a Nigerian movie, there is a good chance that the movie's producers, marketer and actors will be arrested?

abeg be real here.

sky_flies said:
Shan George can never be forgotten becuz wat she portrayed in outkast.... thsts wat I call guts.
Shan George is already forgotten.

sky_flies said:
Omot's not playin the nude scene in the prostitute aint makin the movie less a classic dat it is, it only portrays her as not ready for challenges.
please... tell me what you lost from the movie because you didn't actually see Omot's breasts. how was the overall quality of the movie diminished because Omot didn't meet the "challenge"?

(you see why i say that explicit sex scenes are really about pure voyeurism and not about the quality of the movie?)

sky_flies said:
Nnaji erred period, I hear she was paid 3million Naira for the movie... she erred abeg
do you even understand at all how movies are made?
 

Thickmadam

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Only if u knew dat im as peaceful as sleep
Peaceful as sleep until someone mentions ms nnaji’s name abi? Then you wake up :bouncy

Originally Posted by Thickmadam
I don’t think I’ve seen Sleep Walker, but I have seen LTAS and Wind of glory and yes, she did deliver in those movies. HOWEVER. I saw river/broken tears and I’m sorry to say…there was something flat in those movies FOR ME. ok, how about the movie where she was having an illicit affair and her love scene she just looked so dis-interested in what was going on. I mean, babe, if you’re gonna do a love scene, do it right, at least fake interest, wipe the bored look off your face.Tell me wherever u feel Gene's delivery was flat and I will accept if she truely erred (believe me). I re-saw "faithful betrayer" and I see why many said that Gene was in a deep thoughts of how she will do her laundry..... though I interpreted that scene as guilt. Gene was in love with Alex before the accident and after the accident what she had for him was pity. The character Gene played was once happy to have found love, and later perplexed on how to leave the man she once loved. Maybe im right, maybe im wrong but thats my take
LOL! Sky! You’re truly a funny guy. You think you’ll be objective enough to agree with me if she “truly erred?” unfortunately the store didn’t have Faithful betrayal when I went this weekend, but I’ll try again next weekend when I’ll have time to watch movies. And I’ll try for sleepwalker too
Guilt? If I remember that movie correctly (and I accept my memory may be faulty) that scene was NOT calling for guilt! Nnam, wasn’t she planning to leave her husband for this guy? So which kain guilt?


She needs to keep the FIRE going my good sky, not just because she was trying to get accepted. i don't know how else to explain where i'm coming from other than to say that ms nnaji seems to be loosing the passion, again this is my own opinion. you know what i think? i think that she is bored with the same old same old story lines, same directors who don't know what they're doing. i haven't seen 30 days but i heard she was dynamite in that one. perhaps the influx of new hot blooded directors and script writes needs to happen NOW in the nigerian movie industry.Its not a lie that Gene needs to keep the fire burning because they are guys who still buy her movies in as much as there are claims of the depreciation. Moreover I would not think Gene is loosing the passion I feel to who much is giving much is expected and much must be gotten from. Undoubtedly, Genevieve is among the top 5 all time actors of Nollywood, and she is busy doing sub-standard movies with such prestigious rank; but remember Gene have to chop o! Maybe dats why she is indulging in sub standard movies. Again the truth is dat there are 5 standard of 100 movies in Nollywood, how Gene go chop if she no do sub standard? Dat woman no get husband o my only prayer is dat St. Genevieve will be able to pay all the Gene-heavy-dues so she can be extremely roles selective like maybe Joke Silva. I have historically seen 30days and have seen some of the clips, na so so noise everybody wey watch am dey make.... I might see the movie and think otherwise about it. How can some1 await a ready movie for 3yrs. Deosnt make any sense to me


Sorry but I don’t see your G-girl throwing caution to the winds and acting with abandon. She seems too controlled. Thickmadam, Genevieve is 29yrs, she just begun her carrier so dont be too sure about that. Who sisnt controlled? Anyone who isnt controlled either is a prodigal child or doesnt have a family
HUH? I’m completely lost with what you’re trying to say here. She’s an actress, so SOMETIMES she might need to loose that controlled thing for her characters is all I’m sayin. I still maintain that ms nnaji will sink ladylike, while tears roll down her cheeks, to the ground and will not throw herself with abandon to the ground and roll around and scream and cry. That’s what I meant by controlled. I didn’t mean in her personal life (focus sky, focus on our conversation)

How old is Emergency Wedding?About four years old
Thank you, 4 years old. I’m talking about movies I’ve seen in the last year and a half or after her ban, choose one. After the ban, she hasn’t seemed to be too interested.

Ok, let’s not get condescending here, I DO know that there are different ways to interpret roles, but I also know that you gotta have the appropriate reactions to certain roles. I mean, if the natural inclination of a character is to throw herself down and just let it loose, then the actress portraying that character had better do that, and not play it the way SHE would do it in her personal life. That’s all I’m saying.Its highy amusing the way u keep saying Gene should loosen up. U make me even think the Genevieve u speak of doesnt have the last name Nnaji. If Gene is uptight in roles delivery why is it that the mighty in Nollywood ( Liz Benson, Joke Silva, RMD, Ramsey, Rita Dominic..... ) give kudos to her act skills? If she isas uptight as u sound she wouldnt get this far
Again Sky, I am talking recently. Yes, when she started, she had fire running thru her veins. Did you forget that I said she was dynamite when she first started? That the nnaji I see now is not the nnaji I saw in the Sharon stone series, rising sun, keeping faith?
Oya sky let me say it again: it is in her recent movies that I have noticed that her passion for acting seems to be waning.
I’ll try to watch a few this weekend if my oga, master UK will allow me chance, hopefully the store will have the recommended movies.


Um…bros, TO ME, uche’s propensity to shout and yell in all her angry scenes does make her “less a better actress”. You know why? Because she is not growing and she is not researching and if you give me the same reaction to angry scenes in ALL your movies then something is wrong abi? You know why I like mercy Johnson and RMD? They give me different things, I’ve seen mercy fume silently when she was angry, I’ve seen her shout when she was angry, and I’ve seen her cry in different ways in movies.The fuss u give Mercy is beginning to scare the shit out of me. To tell the truth, at times Mercy acts like Genevieve. Mercy reminds me of a younger Gene, besides same Mercy Johnson u scream about has Genevieve Nnaji as her role model and mentor with no international influence. How did Gene inspires such a talent if she isnt one herself? It takes a talent to inspire another, remember?
Sky! C’mon now. I hardly talk about mercy j the way you talk about nnaji! If I made a big fuss as you do, you would wonder if she was paying me.
Exactly, mercy reminds YOU of a younger gene, when gene was still on fire. If she reminded you of an older gene I’d have to wonder what you were watching. Mercy j can have all the role models and mentors she has, I’m just going by what I see right now. If she starts to drop off, I’ll still call it like I see it. i’m not denying that nnaji has talent, she’s got talent otherwise she would not have developed the fan base she has, but I’m just saying that lately, she seems to be B-O-R-E-D.




Those two scenes you mentioned in broken tears were good, but…you know what? For the purposes of this discussion I’ll go and get broken tears again and watch it. so that I can let you know where they fell flat for me.Patiently waiting for u 2 bring it on
Please bear with me, as soon as I get my hands on the movie, I’ll def watch and let you know where they fell flat for me.

I am not a genevievean, nor an omotilian or any actress-ean LOL thats good to know

Perhaps I need to go watch more recent nnaji movies, can you recommend more to me? I’ve got a good rapport with the lady at the store and she’ll help me find them if I give her a list. Caught in the act is a new flick from Gene though I havent seen it cuz its not yet out in Nigeria. Also advice u see My Idol and Sleep Walker her performances where also remarkable esp. in My Idol.
Cool, thanks. I’ll check for sleepwalker and I actually have My Idol but I haven’t watched it.

Thickmadam u are a good sportswoman, and im pleased to know we still have good female thinkers Thanks sky, but look around the site, there are many "good thinking females" here, we’ve always been here.
 

Thickmadam

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Thickmadam - psssst! U dey dia? Na tatafo I wan do ooooo!
Ehen make I gist u one gist - My idol na rubbish film o. Ehen. If you wan use dat one judge Genny, una go disappoint plenty plenty.madr:
See the reviews here
http://www.naijarules.com/vb/review...l-1-2-starring-genevieve-nnaji-yemi-blaq.html



Alright folks, carry on. You all are very entertaining. :fing02:
Hey! funmo, thanks for the tatafo, well noted. how about sleeper's walk or wetin dem call that one? make i exchange my idol for that one?
 

samira

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Hey! funmo, thanks for the tatafo, well noted. how about sleeper's walk or wetin dem call that one? make i exchange my idol for that one?
TM, u and Funmo just reminded me of the fact that I actually have the movie called 'My idol' at home...i got it from NY back in begining of September...i completely forgot to watch it....let me go and watch am tonight...:460:
 
Hey! funmo, thanks for the tatafo, well noted. how about sleeper's walk or wetin dem call that one? make i exchange my idol for that one?
Sleepwalker is better. Its not in the league of LTAS or Keeping faith, but its better. The story is very good, but the supporting cast sucks, and there is a part 3 and or 4 yet to come out. I think Genny was good in it sha, but the role reqd coldness, not fiery passion, so I dunno if it will meet any of your concerns. I mean its a role that perfectly fits the new Genny - detached, snobbish, disdainful. But yes, I would recommend it over my idol by far!!

Reviews here: http://www.naijarules.com/vb/reviews-nigerian-movies/26877-brave-soul-sleep-walker.html
 

samira

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i agree with your friend, actually.

the promise of explicit love scenes used to be sufficient motive for me to watch certain movies, but as i grow older i find that i have become increasingly indifferent to--and to some degree, even irritated and embarrassed--sex scenes in movies.

the truth is: they are almost always unnecessary and their inclusion is driven by the need to appeal to the audience's voyeurism.

and i remain an unrepentant voyeur and an aficionado of all kinds of erotica, but i somehow, i feel like i don't need to see that in "regular" movies, especially since it's almost always clumsily executed. when i want to see cinematic sex, i can just watch pornography.
@ highlighted....especially black American movies....some of the love scenes is just too much...quite embrassasing especially if you are watching it with someone....like a date or something.
 

Thickmadam

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Sleepwalker is better. Its not in the league of LTAS or Keeping faith, but its better. The story is very good, but the supporting cast sucks, and there is a part 3 and or 4 yet to come out. I think Genny was good in it sha, but the role reqd coldness, not fiery passion, so I dunno if it will meet any of your concerns. I mean its a role that perfectly fits the new Genny - detached, snobbish, disdainful. But yes, I would recommend it over my idol by far!!

Reviews here: http://www.naijarules.com/vb/reviews-nigerian-movies/26877-brave-soul-sleep-walker.html
why are we still whispering?
the story sounds great, different from the norm, and for that alone, i will watch it.
i see that benedict johnson is in a character in the movie, that is reason enough not to watch it, but the story line sounds intriguing so i'll watch it.

oh no, i don't mind if it requires coldness, as long as she delievers the coldness then i'm fine. i was just wishing that she would loose that cold persona when her characters are demanding to fly out and raise cane/kaine(??) i mean, if her character obviously calls for her to be cold then she shouldn't be falling on the ground out of control (to use my new favourite expression)

my aunt has seen caught in the act (if that is the one where she played dual roles) and she said when she was supposed to play the razz character she was in character, and that she did a good job, i'm still waiting for that one to get to me.

but because you recommend it, i'll give sleepwalker a watch
 

takestyle

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@ highlighted....especially black American movies....some of the love scenes is just too much...quite embrassasing especially if you are watching it with someone....like a date or something.
really? like which ones?

to be honest, i often think most black American movies don't have enough nudity!

like, i'll be watching some crappy straight-to-DVD movie and i'll see it's rated R and has a sort of sexy premise, so it's like "cool... maybe i'll at least see some titties to make it worthwhile..." but then the sex scenes all end up being pretty tame and the R rating for crude language!

black actresses tend not to do sexy scenes as much as their white counterparts, and that's another reason why Halle Berry received so much attention (and why some other black actresses--such as Angela Basett--registered disgust). quiet as it's kept, black woman in general tend to be (relatively) sexually conservative.
 
why are we still whispering?
the story sounds great, different from the norm, and for that alone, i will watch it.
i see that benedict johnson is in a character in the movie, that is reason enough not to watch it, but the story line sounds intriguing so i'll watch it.

oh no, i don't mind if it requires coldness, as long as she delievers the coldness then i'm fine. i was just wishing that she would loose that cold persona when her characters are demanding to fly out and raise cane/kaine(??) i mean, if her character obviously calls for her to be cold then she shouldn't be falling on the ground out of control (to use my new favourite expression)

my aunt has seen caught in the act (if that is the one where she played dual roles) and she said when she was supposed to play the razz character she was in character, and that she did a good job, i'm still waiting for that one to get to me.

but because you recommend it, i'll give sleepwalker a watch

Okay, we can stop whispering now. :bouncy
Just a warning - even though you read the reviews - its like most naija movies, the first 20 minutes or so are a trial and tribulation. It however gets betta, so no vex remove am after the first 10 minutes o. grinning:

I actually have caught in the act at home, but I have stopped watching movies with no conclusion. Once the conclusion comes out, I will watch the whole thing. I hear it was good sha.
 
really? like which ones?

to be honest, i often think most black American movies don't have enough nudity!

like, i'll be watching some crappy straight-to-DVD movie and i'll see it's rated R and has a sort of sexy premise, so it's like "cool... maybe i'll at least see some titties to make it worthwhile..." but then the sex scenes all end up being pretty tame and the R rating for crude language!

black actresses tend not to do sexy scenes as much as their white counterparts, and that's another reason why Halle Berry received so much attention (and why some other black actresses--such as Angela Basett--registered disgust). quiet as it's kept, black woman in general tend to be (relatively) sexually conservative.
TS, u is one baaaaaad boi!!:eek:
U watch movies for the (how to say this?) "delicate feminine parts"?

:knuck That is for u!!:smilies23
 

samira

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really? like which ones?

to be honest, i often think most black American movies don't have enough nudity!

like, i'll be watching some crappy straight-to-DVD movie and i'll see it's rated R and has a sort of sexy premise, so it's like "cool... maybe i'll at least see some titties to make it worthwhile..." but then the sex scenes all end up being pretty tame and the R rating for crude language!

black actresses tend not to do sexy scenes as much as their white counterparts, and that's another reason why Halle Berry received so much attention (and why some other black actresses--such as Angela Basett--registered disgust). quiet as it's kept, black woman in general tend to be (relatively) sexually conservative.
I love me some 'Soul Food' the movie but the love scene in the bathroom with Nia long and the guy who acted as her hubby in the movie....unnecessary! I cannot remember the names of the movies, i have in mind, but same kind of cheesy kinda love scenes. For some reason, I did not find anything wrong with Halle Berry in that movie....i actually applauded her for being able to pull it through...I think, the movie was so touching to me and i was able to relate to it and so the naked scene with the white dude did not bother me....that white dude, I do not care for either, but I also felt him in that movie....Monster's ball.
 
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