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Guilty Pleasures

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Why is Emem the focal point in this discussion? She did not write the script, Nse and I think her sister (same last name is why I assume this) wrote it. Emem produced so Guilty Pleasure should not be compared to Emem's works unless it's with reference to production. Just my two rusty kobos.
 

Beautiful_Soul

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Mamazita, you have to be able to take criticism...If she's comparing this movie with Emem's older work, it's obvious, that she's watched her work. Everyone will not like everything...You simply cannot please everybody, but when a supporter gives their critique, paying attention would not be a bad thing. I was on facebook, and Tchidi Chikere, was very upset about what a couple of bloggers said about his work, and I could tell that it struck a nerve, because he rarely posts...One of the best comments, I read was from someone who told him to keep working with passion, honesty, and respect for your viewers, and those critiques will turn to praises ( the thread was deleted shortly after)....my two rusty cents.

Tchidi was majorly overeacting and getting his knickers in a twist over constructive criticism. He should really go and sit down.
 

Beautiful_Soul

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Dear Oga Sola,

I wish I could do all that fancy quoting that you are doing but I can't. You have spoken well. If the girl is 15 and funded by a sugar daddy or 25 and jobless. She can still watch a film and have a valid opinion. Age and who is funding what has nothing to do with anything.

People in the industry are full of kudoses and hi fives when a review is highly favourable and then start talking about jealousy and hating if it isnt. They should get a grip and take it with a pinch of salt. All a review is is one person's opinion.
 

truforia

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Why is Emem the focal point in this discussion? She did not write the script, Nse and I think her sister (same last name is why I assume this) wrote it. Emem produced so Guilty Pleasure should not be compared to Emem's works unless it's with reference to production. Just my two rusty kobos.
Excerpt from my review of the film..:sign0128:

The story was conceived by Emem Isong, while the screenplay is credited to Uyai Ikpe-Etim and Nse Ikpe-Etim.
 

barbarellanoir

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My dear Barbarellanoir.... we are all human. No one enjoys criticism even you!But we are willing to accept it if it is sincere and not said with obvious beef!Tchidi is one of the hardest working producers in Nollywood, working under dire conditions. He should get upset when one little 17yr whose dad is still paying her bills says his film is a 'snoozefest'! And some of these so-called 'critics' are so petty and downright ridiculous!
If Ramsey speaks well he is a said to be speaking with a 'fake britico-Americano accent! If he speaks normally he is said to be razz! Anyway all dat one na for pocket! Most of you watch the films online for free anyway so how does your criticism affect the price of fish? If you like.. watch, if you like ...dont watch...you cant compete with 150 million nigerians who BUY it and watch it, mediocrity and all! That is not to say one will not improve on their work. To each his own! Osondi Owendi.... :cool:
Mamazita, I don't think you got my point, but it's okay. The beauty of this site is that we can agree to disagree. Just know that there are diehards who pay for movies, and I'm one of them. It was through this site that I discovered the great works of Tchidi Chikere, and I've had my cousin scour naija for his vcd's, some of which are out of production. I'm an artist, who believes in Karma, and I feel that if you passionately pirate someone's product, you shouldn't be surprised if the same is done to you. What I really would like, is if the producers/directors such as Tchidi, and Emem, would let people in the diaspora know which african movie sites they endorse. From Tchidi's post, I could see how much the pirates are hurting his craft, and he even mentioned their sites. I almost wanted to send him an email but he was not in the mood/understandably upset.
 

moviewizard

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My own point is, if you cant handle any form of criticism of your work, its either you blank out and dont read comments or you quit the job. I wonder how you would expect to find only appraisals as appropriate evaluation.
 

gugu

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Mamazita - my response to your comment below:

To each his own.... osondi owendi....different strokes for different folks......sometimes I wish you would walk a mile in some of these producers shoes to see whether film making in Nigeria na yam! Im yet the see the movie you so called critics are yet to produce. Chei!
Giving an opinion does not minimize the hard work of Nigerian producers, directors, and scriptwriters. We are the viewing audience, part of the mix for this industry that we love, support, and want to see grow. We do not have to produce movies in order to be critical, give an opinion, or to praise a movie. We are not all 17 years old either!

I pick up an Emem and Tchidi movie without fail because I am rarely disappointed. That is how much respect I have for both of these artists.

Whether Emem was a producer or the story writer, I did not like the story, and expected more from someone who has done very good work in the past. Full stop.

In summary :

" If there is such a thing as as a critic, it is the audience. When you have that final ingredient - the audience, then you have the critic." - Morgan Freeman, Actor.

" Whenever we watch a theater arts performance, we make judgements about that performance. We talk about the the piece with the person who went with us. Our friends ask us about how we liked the piece the next day. We all engage in the act of making judgements. We offer our own criticism. Thus, each and every audience member becomes a critic of sorts. Everybody who goes to the theater has the right to his own opinion, but he doesn't have the right to have it taken seriously." - Tyrone Guthrie, Director

Enjoying Theatre Arts: Analyzing Theatre, Film and Television. Perry T. Schwartz.
 

Hubscrown

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So I saw the concluding part of this movie 2 days ago. This would had been the best movie of the year, except for this killing points. 1. It was fomularic in nature, and the two lead actors Majid and Nse try their best to make it work. 2. It was juvenille writen in certain places and down play the story. 3. Narration didn't work. 4. Minor xters were underdevelop just left hanging losely in the movie. 5. Weak conclusions for main plot and sub plot. I WILL SO LOVE TO WRITE A CONCLUDING PART FOR THIS MOVIE!!
 

Hubscrown

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Aba, wetin? Mamazita 150 million people do not buy Naija movies. Where did you get that market distribution from?? Nigerians has estimate of 150 millions, but you will need to calculate by head of households. 150mil buying the movies means a family of 10 willl each buy a copy including 2mths old baby. By the time the calculations trickles down, maybe 8 -10millions end up buying the movies and that will be if they got good publicity and loyal market. I can't even vow on Northern market of these movies.
 

sky_flies

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Mamazita, you have to be able to take criticism...If she's comparing this movie with Emem's older work, it's obvious, that she's watched her work. Everyone will not like everything...You simply cannot please everybody, but when a supporter gives their critique, paying attention would not be a bad thing. I was on facebook, and Tchidi Chikere, was very upset about what a couple of bloggers said about his work, and I could tell that it struck a nerve, because he rarely posts...One of the best comments, I read was from someone who told him to keep working with passion, honesty, and respect for your viewers, and those critiques will turn to praises ( the thread was deleted shortly after)....my two rusty cents.
Dear, abeg Tchidi should hold his horses!! Does he know the pains I bare seeing him on screen trying too hard to play a role he normally should never ever be considered for? Does he have the slightest idea how disturbing it was seeing his movies with the infamous pink dot on my TV screen?? Does he also know how insulting and embarrassing it is when he re-writes a Bollywood or Hollywood story adding little Nigeria flavor to it, then, calls up my favorite actors to come and act in it knowing I must see it??? I don't think he does!!!

And he is even lucky I'm not on FB cause I will add him and tell it to his face and I am sure he will remove me from his friends list like Rukky Sanda did to Bostonchica :roll
 

barbarellanoir

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Dear, abeg Tchidi should hold his horses!! Does he know the pains I bare seeing him on screen trying too hard to play a role he normally should never ever be considered for? Does he have the slightest idea how disturbing it was seeing his movies with the infamous pink dot on my TV screen?? Does he also know how insulting and embarrassing it is when he re-writes a Bollywood or Hollywood story adding little Nigeria flavor to it, then, calls up my favorite actors to come and act in it knowing I must see it??? I don't think he does!!!

And he is even lucky I'm not on FB cause I will add him and tell it to his face and I am sure he will remove me from his friends list like Rukky Sanda did to Bostonchica :roll
You...to the corner, for time out:D..........be nice.
 

toammyb

Born to lead and follow
Seriously man! I was watching this again and the way Nse "Elizabeth" switches from English, the language to Pidgin English is mind blowing and so cool!
 

Sola

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The pleasure's all ours

By Chude Jideonwo

Emem Isong is one of an endangered breed of Nollywood producers/directors who manage to be prolific while producing movies that don't insult your intelligence.

Still, this has its drawbacks - a thread of uneven delivery that runs through her work. And uneven is also how "Guilty Pleasures" starts.

The actor that first hits the screen, Omoni Oboli - who always takes time to get into her elements - is tentative at best. It doesn't help that the story wastes time with mindless foreplay (pun intended).

It's the staple thriller about seduction and adultery and being caught. A bored housewife (Nse Ikpe-Etim), most remembered for a brilliant turn in ‘Reloaded', is in a mismatched marriage with a controlling man (Ramsey Nouah) that eventually leads her into the quite willing arms of his brother. But the beauty of this particular journey is in its pronounced contours. The basic story of adultery is tastefully deepened by richness in texture and expression.

The movie heats up once Majid Michael comes into the scene - and the young man is a pleasant surprise. Plastic in several movies where he only managed to coast, based on his - admittedly very good - looks, here he is actually made to act. And there are hints of his trademark overacting, but talent manages to shine through. He handles his role as a free spirited photographer, masking an inner void with tenderness and thought. It turns out all these people really need is a good script and a director with a head on her shoulders.

With Nse, the chemistry is fantastic. The times they are on screen together, the elements - camera work, continuity etc - align. Their kisses are a visual delight, and the reactions shots create frames of pure electricity (Bobby, the guard! She screams in one scene of animal passion, and, with the camera offering intimate shots, they deliver another priceless sequence). This movie handles seduction like a pro.

The characters are three-dimensional and the acting is consistent and measured. Nouah was splendid here (minus the annoying accent that he won't seem to let go of). He also joins Nse and Majid in an impressive character consistency that sets this movie far apart from Nollywood staples. The sharp contrast with the Pidgin English-speaking (she gives the movie some of its best lines) ex-supermodel wife he married as a trophy expertly helps the movie along.

The last scenes of the movie are its finest: the slow unravelling from the point where Nse tells her husband she is in love with another man. From that point, the producers have the viewers where they want. Ramsey goes through a whole range of emotions that Nollywood directors never seem to think Nigerians are capable of. There's violence, love, a silent, desperate plea, anger (look out for the scene after he kisses her) and then saliva.

Nse's tears are absolutely heart wrenching. Her grunts and her tears flow in a very... Nigerian way. Isong deserves credit for this - there's no annoying aping of Hollywood tears or being cartoonish. Every part of this film pulses with originality and depth.

Of course, "Guilty Pleasures" starts with two women, burned by their lovers, sharing stories. However, in truth, the second story is hardly worth telling. It peters out because it didn't really belong in the film; despite fine acting and finely handled suspense - ultimately falling under its own lugubrious weight.

All that storyline has to offer is Mercy Johnson. The (cliché alert!) sultry actress is its only strength. Johnson doesn't get enough credit; her talent is raw and has real power and she is unafraid to push the envelope or to take on an array of challenging roles. Unfortunately, neither the story nor her co-actors bring much to the table. The characterisation is still strong, but many of the actors who are to give them life really shouldn't be acting.

It's generally the thing about Isong's movies. The characters are well fleshed out, but aren't fully carried out. Which would mean one thing: the script is strong (which is no surprise: in a perfect world, Isong would focus on her scriptwriting), but the directing doesn't live up to it. Not everyone is a gem like Nse, able to carry a character effortlessly.

However, with a strong story strung between the spectacular acting of Noauh, Majid and Nse, this is Nollywood at one of its finest hours. At the end of the movie, you feel the pain of every single character you have been introduced to. Which is a lot to say for what is otherwise an everyday story.

Emem Isong has a chest of films that deserve AMAA awards, but in "Guilty Pleasures", she has (almost) Oscar material.

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Emem Isong has a chest of films that deserve AMAA awards, but in "Guilty Pleasures", she has (almost) Oscar material.
I was with him until the bolded. Oscar ke? Guilty pleasures? Ahh, we cannot be deceiving ourselves with that kind of hyperbolic praise o. It wasn't THAT good abeg!
 

Thickmadam

OHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHH!!
one question:
why did, at the end, or at any time during the movie, was ramsey's character not written to even at some point reflect upon why his wife was acting the way she did?
he wasn't made to bear some semblance of burden for the problems. true it should not be an excuse for his wife's behaviour and subsequent dallying, but the writer should have, made him pause and realise that he himself was part of the problem.

interesting movie anyway.
 
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