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I regret dating Yomi Ogunmola - Doris Simeon-Ademinokan

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  1. chi

    chi I am blessed

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    a statement made without reference to one tribe has been blown out of proportion . If the thread was a chiege alisegwe interview .... and I had made the same statement would all this eye brow be raised '


    Lanre , Bimbo are excellent performers, i doubt if they are totally off the scene . buky wright , yemi sholade are also good . The other names am not very familiar ,.. ... do refresh me with any of their movies

    Are they they the only ones not being used as a matter of fact we also have EMG artist that are not frequent as before .. namely .. laz ekwueme, gloria anozie , uche osutule, rita nzelu .Liz beson etc . Vince , are they not igbos (excluding Liz) have they lost their skills are they not excellent . Why do you pin down every thing to yoruba or , igbo when the major problems lies ahead ... in addition, the industry is a big one and the producers will assemble who ever they wanna work with .

    I don't have to go far , so I wouldn't compare or give names because it's a petty question.

    Thank God for Oga solas post , the Yorubas have been in the scene before the igbos . What stops them from transforming their movies to english

    you are right .. quite true

    tribalism cuts across every industry . In the oil sector Mobil for example you have more naija delta as the work force . In the movie industry the marketers are the major players and because of the locations of their plays naturally they would take more of their people . ...Vince i put it to you that any tribe holding the ace will favor more of their people . ok.. lets not go too far .... thunderbolt-magun had the ratio 2:4 , uche and ngozi nwosu being the only non Yorubas or you name any other Yoruba production . I will google it and give you the ratio.... So my dear it can never be a balance equation.



    The yoruba crews should come together , brainstorm .. work out something rather than blame their misery on the igbo marketer. Olu jacobs said in his interview .. What is wrong with the yoruba marketers ......hausa ..kennywood .. are picking up ... this is not the time to whine
     
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    So much information ... I didn't kwow all this
    @ highlighted ... very funny

    now shame unto the devil....heheheh
     
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    @bolded
    Oga sola ... you no lie at all ... the people .. get wonderful stories . I remember those days in high school I will go visit my friend and they will put on a Yoruba flick for me .I will be so absorbed by the story that I will not want to go home even the fetish ones I saw in theaters... i enjoyed them ..........I just wish they thought about intensifying to a larger audience ...

    .. thanks God it coming from Yemi's mouth ...if na chi talk am na so dey for read another meaning .
     
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    Honourable Mr. Naijarules!

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    First of all, I have to admit I love that interview. Its blunt and honest: no sugar-coating to try to protect the image of one party. We need more Solades in Nigeria.

    This interview is reinforcing the fact that both EMG and YMG sectors share the same issues at the end of the day.

    I'm glad he pointed this out...very well said Sir..

    Oh yes, the babalawo stigma is a huge stigma attached to YMG movies, will it ever go away? I love how he points out that its an existing flaw in the YMG industry...

    This man is a warrior. He is too honest to a fault! Check out the highlighted!! "I don't tell lies..." but its not a secret that poverty is slowly eating up the roots of the YMG industry, help and improvement are needed. Funds, money are needed!! Budgets below N300,000? This is really serious...

    Sola, there lies my point! You get it and I'm thrilled!! Why can't they break their own way and take a chance? Take a risk!! Its worth it!! Are you telling me the entire YMG industry can't put money together and open up a production company that solely deals with Yoruba movies made in English?

    Wow, I see! They're being frugal to their detriment. Sad. Really sad.
    Yes, this is more like it! Honest perspectives!! I need to read Uncle Yemi's interview again!!

    P.S:Sola, your honesty on this topic is appreciated! Some of your members need to take a cue from you. Really.
     
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    Honourable Mr. Naijarules!

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    Throwing blames around will never solve the problems...it wont...they do need to come together, brainstorm...yes..
    Oh yes...
    Reinvention is what every industry does, even we human beings are compelled to at certain stages in life...why is it so hard here?
    I'm glad this thread is gradually approaching the raw truth (harsh reality) some are afraid of. I can happily retire for the night now...
     
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    @Bolded
    I searched the nook and crannies for this movie but didnt see. I saw the promo on tv then but the film was so unavailable.. I was wondering what happened? But i think there may be more to that, the problems are larger than we think. Have you guys thought of this? Now most of those marketers dont know these YMG stars, except the cross overs and some they have had contact with. Just like Kunle Afolayan said in one his interview, some of them dont even know they exist so they expect them to probably lobby for roles which they cant do becos they are stars already. So i dont think DS would go out of her way to lobby for roles which some stars in EMG do anyways...and since we know that these marketers in EMG are always after using mainly the actors they condider as very commercial they dont even think of using new actors not to talk of YMG stars.
     
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    You summarised the nollywood situation quite well,mw.The reason why DS or any other performer in other sectors cannot come into the EMG sector is here,in a nutshell. It has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to speak english.YMG performers who are used to looking for their own materials and producing them are not about to go begging for roles in the EMG sector just because they want to be more popular.And the marketers are not about to risk using "unknown" faces in their homvies.
    Opari!Nothing more to say.Any other talk na just soundbites.
     
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    Exactly and the few that are been used, if you watch the movies, most times the xters they play are yoruba and its more like they just have to use a yoruba actor. Why isnt Funke Akindele or Ireti Osayemi acting EMG since they became stars in YMG movies...the EMG players expect them to hussle the way they used to when they were still there and since their claim to fame in not a movie made in their industry, it makes it hard.
     
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    just like urs has eaten up your whole being.

    and you think you are the only person blessed with a tougue?. how i wish you would just loosen up that tied tougue for a while and see that when it comes to tougues, urs is probably one of the lamest!
     
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    you actually did. there is no use being doggy about wht you said.




    do try and goggle it if u are that interested!

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    some like Liz Benson have got better stuffs doing now. laz is a professor and acting is probably a secondary ambition.

    as for the remaining names on ur list, their connections are probably not strong enough.

    who knows anozie might have been sidelined for instance becos she is married to a non-igbo (meaning, nepotism is one of the criteria the illiterates marketers use too).


    maybe becos they have choosen to be first and foremost yorubas, proud to tell yoruba stories in yoruba. does it disturb u in anyway?



    that is why we are discussing the tribalism in the movie industry as u guys ( u and honourable) try to pretend it does not exist. you like speaking from both sides of the mouth abi?.

    and u just confirmed that fact (read the bolden part) now, that tribalism is the cause of some pple not getting roles in EMG.

    your reference to thunderbolt-magun; what ratio are u talking about? the fact of the matter is the casting was superb with no prejudice. this is becos where the story lines involved pple of other tribes, pple order than yorubas, but from the said tribes were casted.
    unlike EMG, whereby even when yoruba scenes are introduced into a story for instance, it is an igbo person that must act such as if there are no yoruba artists that can fit into those roles.



    they have not cried on ur shoulders, have they?

    i guess they are happy where they are and are enjoying their own game.

    it is we, the film watchers involving ourselves majorly in these debates and not they.
     
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    interestingggggggggggggg
     
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    all of a sudden, solade now is your hero? humans!
    i know you were one of those bashing the guy for this same interview way back then. but he is an hero now becos sola quoted a part of the interview that is lending credence to your prejudiced view point.


    EMG uses 'dibias', projects more occultic culture, and almost all their movies have religious undertone of always spiritualizing everything. tell me then, what is the difference?


    totally fake!!!

    also, don't forget to also read the part he spoke about tribalism in EMG too.
     
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    that thing you said is from yemi's mouth is misconstrued by u, honourable and sola. u quoted him out of context.

    tell me, what he talking about the reason why yoruba actors don't get featured when he said this?

    even if i agree with the context you are trying to present, does it mean all those acting the iboenglish movies are literates?

    sorry dia, as you have illiterates in EMG, so also you have it in YMG. and the fact still remains, if the actual proportion is taken, the YMG still have more educated practitionals than the EMG.
     
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    Another very important factor being overlooked here,is the creative lattitude that YMG actresses like DS and Funke Akindele enjoy in the YMG sector.They can write,produce,and even direct their own movies, if they so wish, and they will always find a marketer to market the flick.There is none of the "marketer versus independent producer" conflict that exist in the EMG sector.If you want to be an independent movie producer in EMG sector,you must be ready to hawk your movie yourself on the street,if you want to recover the money invested.

    If Saheed Balogun had been mainly an EMG actor, he would never have been able to do a movie like Modupe Temi.It was possible in YMG because the marketers give much more room for creativity than their counterparts in the english sector.

    Can you imagine Funke Akindele running after roles in EMG after what she has and still is doing in the YMG sector?I can't.

    Stephanie Okereke had to leave EMG to go do her first movie in the US.She knows what she's doing.She made her movie in a place that allowed her to be as creative as she would love to be.
     
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    Quite true cos am not quite sure the amstel malta box office guys really made so much from sitanda and white waters but cos they are out for branding and not making money,its easier for them to keep waxing stronger. But vince the only thing i would disagree with is the monetary part cos it exists in the YMG too, they dont make so much from the movies too sometimes especially if its funded with their money and not marketers money, the reason why you see Funke and so many others producing is cos the marketers most times give them the money to shoot these movies, though they have their own cut and then freedom of creativity is allowed which am not sure is possible if an EMG marketer gives money to do a movie.
     
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    I dont think Stephanie shot her movie in the US cos she wont be allowed to be creative in nigeria, remember she went to fim school there and am sure most of the contacts she made to do the film she got there or in the process, she could have decided to shoot here with a lesser budget and still be as creative as she wants as long as its her money she is spending.
     
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    What of the marketing side?As an independent filmmaker making a movie in nigeria,she would've had to deal with the marketers sooner or later,and having to deal with them alone can cause creativity problems.That was my point.
    She must be relieved she does not have to deal with them.She can have the flick distributed in the diaspora alone and make her money back before turning to the nigerian market..
     
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    She can still do that if she shoots the movie in naija. So many nigerian movies are being marketed in the diaspora these days, they even get released first before getting here in nigeria. Its not like she wants to take the movie to Hollywood cos its not that easy.
     
  19. chi

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    i didn't even see it from that angle,@highlighted makes a lot of sense and that could be the more reason why yemi blag who just came into the industry and olu jacobs are very favored by the marketers
     
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    Ofcourse she could've made the movie in nigeria,mw.The location for shooting the movie is not what i am talking about,but with whom she will have to deal in the marketing side.If you,as an independent producer,have already made up your mind not to deal with the marketers,you can concentrate on your movie fully,knowing full well that your target audience and marketers are elswhere.
    It helps the creativity juice a lot if you know that your work will have a decent marketing once it is completed.
    If your only avenue to distributing your work are the present marketers,then you will ask yourself what the point is of making a good movie that will neither see the light of day nor be a financial success,and end up either not doing it well or not doing it at all.
     
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