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I regret dating Yomi Ogunmola - Doris Simeon-Ademinokan

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chi

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She can still do that if she shoots the movie in naija. So many nigerian movies are being marketed in the diaspora these days, they even get released first before getting here in nigeria. Its not like she wants to take the movie to Hollywood cos its not that easy.
..at the end of the day after making some money ... most times they still relinguish it to the marketers .... I remember keeping Faith after it had been kept in the cooler and ego had recovered some money . I read in her interview where she said she gave it to the marketers .... to market
 

vince

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Quite true cos am not quite sure the amstel malta box office guys really made so much from sitanda and white waters but cos they are out for branding and not making money,its easier for them to keep waxing stronger. But vince the only thing i would disagree with is the monetary part cos it exists in the YMG too, they dont make so much from the movies too sometimes especially if its funded with their money and not marketers money, the reason why you see Funke and so many others producing is cos the marketers most times give them the money to shoot these movies, though they have their own cut and then freedom of creativity is allowed which am not sure is possible if an EMG marketer gives money to do a movie.
This is exactly what my main point is,the creativity space they enjoy because of the support the marketers give them,and not about the cash.Money isn't everything in the art of moviemaking.The minute you start thinking too much about money,you start making crappy movies.
Too much money concerns constipate creativity.
 

moviewizard

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..at the end of the day after making some money ... most times they still relinguish it to the marketers .... I remember keeping Faith after it had been kept in the cooler and ego had recovered some money . I read in her interview where she said she gave it to the marketers .... to market


Keeping faith made so much from the premiere alone, Ego just sold it outrightly to OJ productions. So it dont matter how much money she makes from the marketer as far as she is able to make her money from premiers and the us release.
 

moviewizard

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This is exactly what my main point is,the creativity space they enjoy because of the support the marketers give them,and not about the cash.Money isn't everything in the art of moviemaking.The minute you start thinking too much about money,you start making crappy movies.
Too much money concerns constipate creativity.


True but the YMG marketers are just a little better cos they also have their own faults just like them EMG marketers. I just hope the new distribution frame work works out so we get to see people do their stuffs freely.
 
A beautiful post from another member!

Preach it!! Preach!!

Nollywood dey fight "You no be Igbo...Igbo dey rule industry, Igbo no gree make non Igbo make money for film industry!"

Hollywood dey fight "You too black, You no fine, Nobody go come see your movie because you dey too black and you no fine!"

When will it ever stop? Well, I've lived to see an African American man become a serious contender for the White House so maybe, just maybe I will live to see a world without discrimination.
 

Sisi

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A member asks...



Victorious, carefully read Uncle Yemi's interview I pulled up above!! Enjoy!;)
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A: There is no barrier. First and foremost, I am a Yoruba man. When you talk about English, listen to me talk. I speak that language very well, you should not equate somebody like me with some of the prominent actors in the so-called Nigerian (English) movies, which I do not even agree are English movies. They are Igbo-English movies or Niger-Delta English movies. The fusion of Igbo language and English is IgboEnglish because the diction of most of the actors is heavily Igbo. They do not represent the true African setting that I want to be part of. And most of the stories that come out of that place are centred around voodoo. You cannot tell me that Jim Iyke is an English actor, he’s an Igbo boy. RMD is a Warri actor, Omotola Jolade is a Yoruba actor, Sam Loco is a Benin actor, Keppy Ekpeyong is a Calabar/Efik actor. So, where does the English thing come in now?

Q: Have you ever been denied a movie role on account of where you come from?
A: I think it was about 10 years ago when I was shooting a movie called Homeless. A friend of mine, Kola Davies, who was the director, invited me and gave me a major role. But he wanted me to negotiate with the producer who happens to come from the East of the Niger. As soon as the guy saw me, he thought I was of the Igbo extraction and started speaking Igbo to me. I told him I was not Igbo and that killed his interest in me. Though I ended up shooting the movie, Francis Duru was brought in to shoot the lead, which I was supposed to. When I saw the signal, I knew that the rebel in me would not tolerate things like that. I would rather go to where I’m celebrated than where I’m tolerated.
http://www.thenewsng.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2259
ur uncle yemi's interview also contained this part.

hope u tell victorious to read the part too.
 

vince

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If bollywood can do it with the hindu language(that is, get wide audience with their native lingo), so can YMG.Bollywood did it with class and style in their productions, and so can the yoruba producers.

As long as they keep on going in the direction of creativity and higher quality productions,and overhauling the marketing aspect,they are well on their way.

They don't need EMG and the english language to get wider audience.The audience they have already is huge and it can only get larger and larger.

I don't even need to state this, because they know this already, and some of them are working towards achieving it.

As for DS,i don't see her moving away from YMG sector.She can do some english productions every now and then(if she's called to), but she is a "YMGian" to the core, and we love her like that.That is the only sector that freely allows the creative juice to flow unhindered.
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vince

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"Gorgeousness" is subjective, just like everything else. I think she is drop dead gorgeous as well as pretty,see.
And i know there are so many other fans of hers who think she is even more than gorgeous,so...

A lot of people think that Rita Dominic is gorgeous,but i don't.I think she is just pretty,see?

It is all subjective views.As they say,"Gorgeousness" is in the eyes of the beholder.
 

takestyle

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"Gorgeousness" is subjective, just like everything else. I think she is drop dead gorgeous as well as pretty,see.
And i know there are so many other fans of hers who think she is even more than gorgeous,so...

A lot of people think that Rita Dominic is gorgeous,but i don't.I think she is just pretty,see?

It is all subjective views.As they say,"Gorgeousness" is in the eyes of the beholder.
of course it's all subjective... and i don't necessarily think Rita is "goregeous" either, but... well, she does have *something*

there's something about her look that has "star" written all over it... maybe it's more her *style* than her natural looks, but she has that thing that if you saw her on the street and you didn't even know who she was, you would have the sense that she is someone you're supposed to know...

Doris... she just seems like "everyday" pretty to me. like a good-looking housewife.

not that there's anything wrong with that, of course...
 

vince

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You see,subjectivity.My own view of these two actresses is the exact opposite of yours.I see Rita as an everyday houswwife and not a star,and i have seen enough of her homvies to allow me to come to that conclusion.
Rita is sensuous,though.
As for DS, i see her covered in star quality.
Subjectivity.
of course it's all subjective... and i don't necessarily think Rita is "goregeous" either, but... well, she does have *something*

there's something about her look that has "star" written all over it... maybe it's more her *style* than her natural looks, but she has that thing that if you saw her on the street and you didn't even know who she was, you would have the sense that she is someone you're supposed to know...

Doris... she just seems like "everyday" pretty to me. like a good-looking housewife.

not that there's anything wrong with that, of course...
 

takestyle

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Sisi needs to go beyond her emotional responses to critically address the issues on the ground. Whether you like it or not, there may be a "let's keep to our own abeg" issue in the Yoruba Nollywood section. Long before Nollywood, ANTP and NANTAP existed, the former (Association of Nigerian Theatre Practitioners) representing the Yoruba actors, etc., while the latter, (National Association of Nigerian Theatre Arts Practitioners) catered to the English sector. There was nothing NANTAP did not do to get the Yoruba practitioners to embrace NANTAP, the only formally registered thespian body back then. A few folks like Ayo Mogaji, Tunji Sotimirin, Yemi Solade, Kola Oyewo, etc, tried to bridge the divide even then. So the divide has been there long before Nollywood, Sisi. Yoruba actors have kept to themselves unusually much over the years. And they have been seriously unadventurous to boot. Even after the late Muyideen Alade Aromire started shooting on video and releasing straight to tape, it took some other person to take the development to the next level. Yoruba folks tend to play it safe too often, and that is also why few of their movies have transcended what they started out with (less juju now of course).

But Simeon is part of a new generation of Yoruba actors (led by Solade who has been doing this for more than 20yrs). They are educated, and can hold their own in any circle. They still complain of not getting roles in the "English" sector though...See, there is the tight-fisted casting nature of what is currently called "English" Nollywood. To go into that would require another epistle, but it isn't enough to play it safe with your established audience (without trying to gain new ones) by only producing in Yoruba. That is why Kunle Afolayan's recent release, Irapada, remains a beautiful piece of work to me. Instead of waiting for someone to put him in an English movie, he made his own (mostly English) movie. I wonder why he released it himself... Could it be because the regular established Yoruba marketers are unwilling to go out of their comfort zone and market something different? I think the Yoruba movie marketers are just as greedy as the "English" ones. Worse, they're too contented with peanuts, rentals from their video clubs and the self-piracy they embark on with the English ones in the absence of accountability.

No one frustrated TK's marketing efforts. TK has just never been happy with the crooked marketing system in place. There is no way to know how many copies were made or sold using the Idumota or Yoruba marketers' model, so he finishes his product himself in his office and releases in conjunction with a handful of people. If Thunderbolt did not make money, that's no excuse to discontinue along a line of experimentation. Everybody makes a bomb now and then. It failed commercially for other reasons (one of which is the fact that he had already established himself as a Yoruba filmmaker and Thunderbolt was his first attempt to try something else)..
if there were a way to thank a post more than once, i would definitely be thanking this one at least 5 times.

the discussion actually should have ended here, but for some reason, everybody seems to be ignoring Sola's posts as they commit themselves to hysterical rabblerousing...
 

takestyle

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I dont think Stephanie shot her movie in the US cos she wont be allowed to be creative in nigeria, remember she went to fim school there and am sure most of the contacts she made to do the film she got there or in the process, she could have decided to shoot here with a lesser budget and still be as creative as she wants as long as its her money she is spending.
hahahaha! don't believe the hype!

look... Stephanie would not have shot in Nigeria for a lesser budget. it probably cost her much, much less to shoot in LA.

so far, she has remained tight-lipped about how much she spent on the movie, but i am willing to wager that she actually spent very little.

remember: Stephanie is enrolled in film school.

which means that most of her cast and crew would most likely be composed of her fellow students, who work for free.

most of the equipment she used would also be free or very cheap.

her making that movie in the US has nothing to do with "having to leave EMG to be creative"... that movie is the equivalent of a film student's senior project.
 
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