Ije is the first standard Nigerian made Hollywood film – Anyaene

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forget normal nollywood. lets talk about ground breaking nollywood like Kunle, Tade and Kelani. not forgetting the Amatas. I am not fighting, I do this all the time, when Imasuen spoke about Ebuwa, I said the same thing I am saying now.
if I remember, we all were on the same page.

you can have all the time in the world, it won't guarantee a good movie. 10,000 BC, Gigli...

you can have minimal time (woman thou art loosed, shot in 12 days) and still make a good film.

don't qualify standard by time. to say oh, because it took me 2 years to make a film, it is Hollywood film. come on now.
We (the consumers) can see the difference just by watching a few minutes of the trailer. This movie is unique and different from the movies of the directors you've just mentioned. The trailer stands on its own and all that remains is for us to watch the full length movie and the rest will be history.

This movie will give Nollywood the international respect and attention the industry had been requesting for such a long time.
 

Angela81

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I dare you to name 1 movie by Leila that is better than Ije. I'm talking about the script, lighting, sound, and all other aspects. Sohuld you name such a movie, the entire NR will watch both mvoies and then make their recommendations. I'm waiting.



And my point remains: the right to promote one's movie in a desirable way does not inherently belong to those producers or directors you're talking about. They neither have a monopoly of ideas, nor do they determine what others should say about their own movies.

And learn to use capital letters after every full-stop. You should know this by now.
lol. go to bed my dear. i am not leila's defender, I am not disparaging Ije, I am passing a comment on the filmmakers comment.

but since you choose to carry this grudge against this poor woman, let me defend her and pray for the blood of Jesus upon her life and her endeavors. we know what you people can do.

oh, for your information, Canoe Magazine covered Leila's film I sing of a well in December. declared the best film to come out of Ghana in recent times. just thought I'd throw that in. Ije is a different genre, the other is also different. tows the line of the Kelani's and the Jeta Amata's.

really, ije's lighting? ok. have you ever seen 35mm properly lit and how it looks like?

buy me a new computer please. my shift and caps lock don't work. hbeat:
 

Angela81

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We (the consumers) can see the difference just by watching a few minutes of the trailer. This movie is unique and different from the movies of the directors you've just mentioned. The trailer stands on its own and all that remains is for us to watch the full length movie and the rest will be history.

This movie will give Nollywood the international respect and attention the industry had been requesting for such a long time.
different and unique does not mean better.

lets end this ok. you and I know you are not putting up an objective argument.
 
#24
lol. go to bed my dear. i am not leila's defender, I am not disparaging Ije, I am passing a comment on the filmmakers comment. :
Don't worry, I will go to bed at my own time.

but since you choose to carry this grudge against this poor woman, let me defend her and pray for the blood of Jesus upon her life and her endeavors. we know what you people can do.
Firstly, you're contradicting yourself after claiming above that you are "not Leila's defender."
Secondly, Leila is nobody for me to envy or do anything to her. Who is she? What has she achieved that I will find it desirable to bring harm upon her?

oh, for your information, Canoe Magazine covered Leila's film I sing of a well in December. declared the best film to come out of Ghana in recent times. just thought I'd throw that in. Ije is a different genre, the other is also different. tows the line of the Kelani's and the Jeta Amata's.
If you really believe this so called "I Sing Of A Well" is better than "Ije" then by all means say so. This will enable NR members to watch both movies and make their decisions as to which one is better, unique and worth watching.

really, ije's lighting? ok. have you ever seen 35mm properly lit and how it looks like?
Irrelevant! I am not a movie producer, director or even an actor. I am a movie fanatic and an average consumer.

buy me a new computer please. my shift and caps lock don't work
. hbeat

For someone who once bragged about "working in Hollywood", I expected you to at least afford a minor PC.
Besides, I'd rather donate that money to the victims of Haiti as they need it more. Wouldn't you agree?;)
 
#25
different and unique does not mean better.

lets end this ok. you and I know you are not putting up an objective argument.
"Better" is a subjective term with regard to this discussion. There are no universal criteria or yardstick as to a "better movie."

It depends on the taste of the consumer. For example: I love "Gladiator" by Ridley Scott and genuinely believe it is one of the greatest movies of all time. However, there are other movie fans who find it distasteful.
 

Angela81

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#26
"Better" is a subjective term with regard to this discussion. There are no universal criteria or yardstick as to a "better movie."

It depends on the taste of the consumer. For example: I love "Gladiator" by Ridley Scott and genuinely believe it is one of the greatest movies of all time. However, there are other movie fans who find it distasteful.
You have me laughing. you are so full of hate and it makes you lack objectivity. Meddeen, so you know that it depends on the consumer what better is? you do?

When did I even say that Ije is better than I sing of a well or vice versa? Is gladiator better than shawshank redemption? it's a totally subjective opinion.

You are the proverbial fox who gave his tail out to be pulled.:teu26:

suddenly it has to turn into a discussion about something completely irrelevant.
 

alize

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#28
Nike007, my lilttle sister dem no get anything else to fight about ooo, so they have to expand the topic and time.


Some of what i read here makes sense, while others just need to read what others write and respond inteligently.

So called hollywood standard of movie does not equate to blockbuster film ooooo.

Waterworld by kevin costner was a hollywood big budget movie, after the much hype, what happens to it, it sinked. Kevin costner never recovered from that loss.

So back to the topic , if this chic wants to toot her horn, good for her. She is trying to market her yet to release film. That strategy works for those in the industry. No publicity is bad publicity.

Abeg, nike007, i am going to see fela on broadway jare. This is my second time watching it. Very energizing, is like fela was alive on stage.
 

sky_flies

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What I'm yet to understand is why Angela81 mentions Amazing Grace....... What does she know about it?? She can tell me about I sing of a well BUT I'll tell her about Amazing Grace...... Outside Africa the reviews centered on poor visual effects, lame screenplay & directing, poor acting, poor story development...... And Angela81 mentions Amazing Grace!? To heck with Angela81!!!

The only reason I supported Amazing Grace is because it was entirely different from what we saw back then..... Its far behind Ije in everything

Watch Steven Speilberg's Amistad, Roots..... or even the original Amazing Grace.... You'll understand how distasteful Jeta's Amazing Grace was....

White waters?? I sent that movie to my cousin outside Nigeria and she promised to send it right back to me :roll :roll.....

Stephanie's Through the glass is a chick film..... Chick films like Ugly betty despite having A-list Hollywood actors never compete with Ije finish na Through the glass?? Which cigar Madam Koffi de smoke so???

I sing of my well had a fatal casting error with their lead cast, hence the movie don fail. O ti ku.... Stopped mourning, the hope for your movie is dead and gone.... Alright??

Talk The Figurine, talk Ije...... Then we might just talk.....

Angela81, abeg leave Chineze to hype herself..... Leila is the self hype queen herself oh!!....... BTW, Ije will break your heart.... She will put on a sick bay cause her success will sicken you.... Keep hating and saving up for the hard times.....
 
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of course, she must ride the publicity horse wildly, that will help sell the movie. no she did not compare, neither did i say she did. BUT to say her movie is the first "standard" film to come out of Nigeria will rub people wrong like it rubs me wrong cos people have done it all before.
The story's headline doesn't jive with what she actually said in the interview.The reporters may have titled the story that way(attributing the quote to her) but i can't locate it in the story.May be, they were paraphrasing.
 

Sola

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The story's headline doesn't jive with what she actually said in the interview.The reporters may have titled the story that way(attributing the quote to her) but i can't locate it in the story.May be, they were paraphrasing.
Yap, they do that a lot, and that's all some folks read...
 

nike007

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#32
Nike007, my lilttle sister dem no get anything else to fight about ooo, so they have to expand the topic and time.


Some of what i read here makes sense, while others just need to read what others write and respond inteligently.

So called hollywood standard of movie does not equate to blockbuster film ooooo.

Waterworld by kevin costner was a hollywood big budget movie, after the much hype, what happens to it, it sinked. Kevin costner never recovered from that loss.

So back to the topic , if this chic wants to toot her horn, good for her. She is trying to market her yet to release film. That strategy works for those in the industry. No publicity is bad publicity.

Abeg, nike007, i am going to see fela on broadway jare. This is my second time watching it. Very energizing, is like fela was alive on stage.
Nne u r enjoying oo...hmm...me i just dey here dey enjoy my last days with mumsie...cos i no say she go run leave me for here ....i just dey make sure sey she cook enough soup for me oooo...till like june...lmao......Enjoy the felabrations!!
 

Angela81

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Yap, they do that a lot, and that's all some folks read...

You spent 18 months doing this movie. Can you tell us what you were doing all those while that it took so long?


The first part was the pre-production, which we shot for like two months in Jos. Back to Los Angeles, we produced for like six weeks with Omotola and Genevieve. Then, the post-production took us nine months, which I think is one of the things we lack in Nollywood. Film making is not all about cutting and pasting. There’s a lot in post-production and that’s where the film comes out. That is if you want to maintain the Hollywood standard.

This is the first Nigerian film to pass the Hollywood standard and that is why it took us 18 months.

was she misquoted?

the entire paragraph is so ignorant.

you don't shoot during pre-production. its called principal photography.
post production took nine months because you shot film and its your first and you needed a lot of patience to get it right. That's highly commendable.
maintain the Hollywood standard? what the heck? what on earth does that mean?
 

Angela81

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#35
What I'm yet to understand is why Angela81 mentions Amazing Grace....... What does she know about it?? She can tell me about I sing of a well BUT I'll tell her about Amazing Grace...... Outside Africa the reviews centered on poor visual effects, lame screenplay & directing, poor acting, poor story development...... And Angela81 mentions Amazing Grace!? To heck with Angela81!!!

The only reason I supported Amazing Grace is because it was entirely different from what we saw back then..... Its far behind Ije in everything

Watch Steven Speilberg's Amistad, Roots..... or even the original Amazing Grace.... You'll understand how distasteful Jeta's Amazing Grace was....

White waters?? I sent that movie to my cousin outside Nigeria and she promised to send it right back to me :roll :roll.....

Stephanie's Through the glass is a chick film..... Chick films like Ugly betty despite having A-list Hollywood actors never compete with Ije finish na Through the glass?? Which cigar Madam Koffi de smoke so???

I sing of my well had a fatal casting error with their lead cast, hence the movie don fail. O ti ku.... Stopped mourning, the hope for your movie is dead and gone.... Alright??

Talk The Figurine, talk Ije...... Then we might just talk.....

Angela81, abeg leave Chineze to hype herself..... Leila is the self hype queen herself oh!!....... BTW, Ije will break your heart.... She will put on a sick bay cause her success will sicken you.... Keep hating and saving up for the hard times.....

Sky, rant and rave all you want. I have made my point. she has no right to say Ije is the first well made movie from Nigeria. I am just glad she did not add Ghana to it because at least Ghana can boast of actual Hollywood productions.

Well, maybe its Nigeria that has made only mediocre films since their independence and its a graduate thesis film directed by two girls that will FINALLY teach them how its done. as pathetic as that sounds, that just may be the truth. so lets agree on that.:musik35:

go ahead, change your story and disregard other peoples work that YOU have praised before. whether the movies flopped or were distasteful they are on shelves at blockbuster. Distributed by actual Hollywood distributors. We pray for more and may Ije be one, its good for Africa, just don't keep lying from here to there.

don't worry sky, I'll have my family make the surface on my coffin flat so you can dance on it when I die from being sick at the young girls success.

you are a laugh. Ije and Ugly Betty? ok I guess its fan talk. you are bi-polar too it seems.
 

alize

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Nike007 my on-point little sister, how many pot of soups mumsie wan cook that will last till june. Three pots last me for two weeks ooo.



Btw skyflies, which A lister starred in stephanie okereke's film. I did not see brad pitts and others, am just curious.
 
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was she misquoted?

the entire paragraph is so ignorant.

you don't shoot during pre-production. its called principal photography.
post production took nine months because you shot film and its your first and you needed a lot of patience to get it right. That's highly commendable.
maintain the Hollywood standard? what the heck? what on earth does that mean?
Ok..you have made your point.But why are you so angry? You can still critique her without sounding so angry.
 

Sola

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#38
she has no right to say Ije is the first well made movie from Nigeria...
That even ignores the legion of celluloid movies shot before the emergence of Nollywood. And most of TK's movies are world class anyday, which explains why he gets invited to all kinds of film festivals, even though they are shot on video. Also explains why Afolayan is getting invited too. It isn't JUST what you shoot on or how long it takes...

But she's trying to hawk a film, so filmmakers will do anything to sell a movie sha...
 

Angela81

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#39
Ok..you have made your point.But why are you so angry? You can still critique her without sounding so angry.
swt. I am not angry. I do not appreciate it when anyone who shoots a movie in LA goes back to Nigeria to deceive people and say they shot a "hollywood movie". it's exploiting the peoples intelligence. People who have had actual hollywood stars in their films, you never hear them say things like this.

Look, it takes a lot for filmmakers back home to raise money to make their films. Even here, those on NR here who want to make movies, some have not due to financing. Its not that they cannot make good movies, the resources and help are not there. So if Mama gives you money to make a film and there is no 37% interest sitting on the money, don't begin to jump up and down and discredit people who actually sweat, strive, and struggle to put their art out there by saying your film is the best when you cannot even get technicalities right.

we just read about Emem Isong and how she survived.

What would the case be like if she were to write a script and run around sourcing for funding and not get enough to make the type of movie she really wants to make?

make noise, sell your movie as aggressively as you can. In fact, with Genny and OmoT, she will break box office that one, no shaking. But, please respect others who were there and in fact made it possible for you to also be there.

ahh. Expensive beads don't shout.
 

sky_flies

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#40
Sky, rant and rave all you want. I have made my point. she has no right to say Ije is the first well made movie from Nigeria. I am just glad she did not add Ghana to it because at least Ghana can boast of actual Hollywood productions.

Well, maybe its Nigeria that has made only mediocre films since their independence and its a graduate thesis film directed by two girls that will FINALLY teach them how its done. as pathetic as that sounds, that just may be the truth. so lets agree on that.:musik35:

go ahead, change your story and disregard other peoples work that YOU have praised before. whether the movies flopped or were distasteful they are on shelves at blockbuster. Distributed by actual Hollywood distributors. We pray for more and may Ije be one, its good for Africa, just don't keep lying from here to there.

don't worry sky, I'll have my family make the surface on my coffin flat so you can dance on it when I die from being sick at the young girls success.

you are a laugh. Ije and Ugly Betty? ok I guess its fan talk. you are bi-polar too it seems.
Oh please!! If there is anyone that rants its you. Your point is clear at least on this one...... Moreso, its your hateful and bashful approach to matters that is naive and inimical. I've seen you dismiss Stephanie's Through The Glass but for Ije you think its worthy of a praise..... Are you real!!! Haba!!! Stephanie also praised heavens into her movie before it was released..... So whats the matter!??

Nigeria has made lots of mediocre films and Ghana is no exception..... Our consolation is the fact that our home made movies sell and appeals due to the originality in storytelling. In recent times Nigeria has even done more standard movies than what you mentioned..... Lets hazard a guess, 30 days, Sitanda.... are not in same standard with Through The Glass, White Waters abi??...... So which is higher? I thought you knew what good lighting and picture really entails of..... Maybe you really do but loose objectivity hence you say Ije had bad lighting....

Will never disregard the Izu Ojukwu's, Jeta Amata's, Kunle Afolayan's, Mildred Okwo's, Tunde Kelani's..... But with what I saw and going by the story Ije offers (a true Nigerian story with depth).... She (Ije) has thrown a challenge to the faces of the mentioned..... We all know the mentioned names dared to be different even when Nollywood welcomed mediocrity BUT a younger generation seem to have raised the stakes by enriching our story in an internationally appealing way. Yes!! They (the Kelani's) laid the foundation, they are still present and relevant..... BUT bitter as it sounds its not them that will move Nollywood forward..... New hands like the Chineze's and many more far better than her will emerge..... I bet you.....

The TK's are dwelling in past glory...... And I'll say that anytime, anyday. So whats wrong in shifting direction to whats in vogue and accepted!?? You say Amazing Grace was distributed by a Hollywood distribution and I ask; why wouldn't it?? Who was the producer???

And tell me Angela81, what exactly is good about Ugly Betty other than a handsome film budget et.c!?? Good actors right? Good scripting right? Good pictures right?..... Okay!! Ugly Betty fits in the U.S.A market..... so does my A sting in the tale and Letters to a stranger fit into the African market..... Shekina!!
 
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