Ije is the first standard Nigerian made Hollywood film – Anyaene

Status
Not open for further replies.

nike007

Well-Known Member
#41
The girl can say what she wants to say now!!? Haba...na una movie?? If i cured cancer, heck i would say it was the most important medical/scientific achievement ever....why because na me do am....The girl has made a movie which in my opinion is better than most nollywood movies i've seen, Tunde Kelani or not she has done something great...maybe she was not influenced by Jeta amata or Tunde....But who gives a friggin frack...afterall people like to market their products and i think that the context in which she said the movie was a hollywood standard has been mis-interpreted...as she said this while she was reffering to the time in post-production...and as we all know...That is true!!
 

Angela81

Well-Known Member
#42
Oh please!! If there is anyone that rants its you. Your point is clear at least on this one...... Moreso, its your hateful and bashful approach to matters that is naive and inimical. I've seen you dismiss Stephanie's Through The Glass but for Ije you think its worthy of a praise..... Are you real!!! Haba!!! Stephanie also praised heavens into her movie before it was released..... So whats the matter!??
of course I bashed TTG, but since your friend is basing how good her film is purely on how long she took to make it... I had to bring TTG back as it also took time to make. does that make it a hollywood standard? apart from the difference in camera, they both have the self same elements. struggling thespians from LA and Nollywood superstars.

Nigeria has made lots of mediocre films and Ghana is no exception..... Our consolation is the fact that our home made movies sell and appeals due to the originality in storytelling. In recent times Nigeria has even done more standard movies than what you mentioned..... Lets hazard a guess, 30 days, Sitanda.... are not in same standard with Through The Glass, White Waters abi??...... So which is higher? I thought you knew what good lighting and picture really entails of..... Maybe you really do but loose objectivity hence you say Ije had bad lighting....
I criticized white waters lighting. just as I've done Ije. Kevin's work is known in LA. lighting black people is no easy task. Ok, so you do know that better movies were before Ije? I am glad.

Will never disregard the Izu Ojukwu's, Jeta Amata's, Kunle Afolayan's, Mildred Okwo's, Tunde Kelani's..... But with what I saw and going by the story Ije offers (a true Nigerian story with depth).... She (Ije) has thrown a challenge to the faces of the mentioned.....
in truth, she has not thrown any challenge to those mentioned. if those mentioned had the silver spoon she has, they just might blow hollywood out of the water, considering what they have been able to do with little and all the other challenges. how many of them got a free camera from NYFA and 30% kodak student discount on film stock, plus NYFA student discount on telecine? please.



The TK's are dwelling in past glory...... And I'll say that anytime, anyday. So whats wrong in shifting direction to whats in vogue and accepted!?? You say Amazing Grace was distributed by a Hollywood distribution and I ask; why wouldn't it?? Who was the producer???
I am shocked and disappointed you even say something so disrespectful.
 

sky_flies

Well-Known Member
#43
swt. I am not angry. I do not appreciate it when anyone who shoots a movie in LA goes back to Nigeria to deceive people and say they shot a "hollywood movie". it's exploiting the peoples intelligence. People who have had actual hollywood stars in their films, you never hear them say things like this.

Look, it takes a lot for filmmakers back home to raise money to make their films. Even here, those on NR here who want to make movies, some have not due to financing. Its not that they cannot make good movies, the resources and help are not there. So if Mama gives you money to make a film and there is no 37% interest sitting on the money, don't begin to jump up and down and discredit people who actually sweat, strive, and struggle to put their art out there by saying your film is the best when you cannot even get technicalities right.


we just read about Emem Isong and how she survived.

What would the case be like if she were to write a script and run around sourcing for funding and not get enough to make the type of movie she really wants to make?


make noise, sell your movie as aggressively as you can. In fact, with Genny and OmoT, she will break box office that one, no shaking. But, please respect others who were there and in fact made it possible for you to also be there.

ahh. Expensive beads don't shout.
My dear, you are guilty of this deceit you speak of...... Its only a thief that knows a thief.... Having one Hollywood star in your movie doesn't even make it a Hollywood movie..... Abeg, don't go that direction!!

@ highlighted, What are you driving at?? The girls mother funded her movie and whats with that?? She's fortunate that she comes from a home where mama is capable of seeing that her daughters' dream is achieved at any cost..... So??? Is that a problem??? How do you think 50% of the Nollywood movies you watch are funded??? I bet ya its still goes down to ancestral lineage.....
 

Sola

Administrator
Staff member
#45
The TK's are dwelling in past glory...... And I'll say that anytime, anyday. So whats wrong in shifting direction to whats in vogue and accepted!??
Can you elaborate on the above, just so I don't misunderstand you? How is an active filmmaker, tested and proven on celluloid and video at home and abroad, "dwelling in past glory" exactly? You do know he's alive, right?

And how does this movie (have you seen it?) shift "direction to whats in vogue"? What exactly is "in vogue" as referenced here? And as to the shift in direction, what does this movie bring to the table that changes everything? I'd like to know, really...

As for Ije, we need to see the movie before we can address it fairly, so I'm not going to touch it.
 
#46
swt. I am not angry. I do not appreciate it when anyone who shoots a movie in LA goes back to Nigeria to deceive people and say they shot a "hollywood movie". it's exploiting the peoples intelligence. People who have had actual hollywood stars in their films, you never hear them say things like this.

Look, it takes a lot for filmmakers back home to raise money to make their films. Even here, those on NR here who want to make movies, some have not due to financing. Its not that they cannot make good movies, the resources and help are not there. So if Mama gives you money to make a film and there is no 37% interest sitting on the money, don't begin to jump up and down and discredit people who actually sweat, strive, and struggle to put their art out there by saying your film is the best when you cannot even get technicalities right.

we just read about Emem Isong and how she sur Thvived.

What would the case be like if she were to write a script and run around sourcing for funding and not get enough to make the type of movie she really wants to make?

make noise, sell your movie as aggressively as you can. In fact, with Genny and OmoT, she will break box office that one, no shaking. But, please respect others who were there and in fact made it possible for you to also be there.

ahh. Expensive beads don't shout.
How does her description of her movie as being the first well-made movie in Nigeria,disparage her forbears? I don't get your argument.She is promoting her movie.what else is she supposed to say? I don't know why this rubs you the wrong way.For me,it's not significant. This is what all this guys do all the time.It is for the audience to decide. As for insulting the people's intelligence,it is the press who you should be angry with.They play along..They don't ask the right questions.I don't like the tone of this debate.It is unnecessarily heated for my liking.We can still talk about this without all the heat.
 
#47
How does her description of her movie as being the first well-made movie in Nigeria,disparage her forbears? I don't get your argument.She is promoting her movie.what else is she supposed to say? I don't know why this rubs you the wrong way.For me,it's not significant. This is what all this guys do all the time.It is for the audience to decide. As for insulting the people's intelligence,it is the press who you should be angry with.They play along..They don't ask the right questions.I don't like the tone of this debate.It is unnecessarily heated for my liking.We can still talk about this without all the heat.

I'm surprised you guys still don't get it.
Angela hates anything that has to do with Genevieve Nnaji. She will go out of her way to ensure that any project featuring Genevieve gets negative press. The fact that we're even discussing this movie is good for its publicity so I urge her to keep up her hatred. This movie is bound to go places and nothing she does will prevent this movie form being regarded as a great Nollywood movie.
 

nike007

Well-Known Member
#48
This argument has officialy become ridiculous... The girl has a right to tout her movie as the best, how about we wait and see before we crucify her....abeg when has nollywood used hollywood actors? 30 days,not to be rude but i had not heard about that guy, till 30 days and the oyinbos we see are usually Lebanese men that cannot speak english to save their lives.....lets leave this matter and wait jare....Until then She can call her movie the best ever! Afterall avatar claimed to be the best, was it the best, no. Was the movie entertaining? Only in 3d....the story was really crappy and nollywood would have given us more juice in a story.... See i have not brought Genevieve into this argument, because i want to believe that you are looking at this movie from the point of view of someone in the business...but like i said earlier, it has become redundant.....

PS: Microsoft is racist, i wrote nollywood and it gave me that stupid red-line spell check thingy....and the suggestions were...Bollywood and Hollywood!! We are the 2nd best for forks sake!!
 

sky_flies

Well-Known Member
#49
The girl can say what she wants to say now!!? Haba...na una movie?? If i cured cancer, heck i would say it was the most important medical/scientific achievement ever....why because na me do am....The girl has made a movie which in my opinion is better than most nollywood movies i've seen, Tunde Kelani or not she has done something great...maybe she was not influenced by Jeta amata or Tunde....But who gives a friggin frack...afterall people like to market their products and i think that the context in which she said the movie was a hollywood standard has been mis-interpreted...as she said this while she was reffering to the time in post-production...and as we all know...That is true!!
I tire oh!! Lips na she get and no be say she disrespect anyone but haters just gotta hate ya know!?

And must any new director acknowledge Tunde Kelani's?? The TK's didn't start it at all..... They were great filmmakers before them and they will be greater after them.... Simply said!!

Each time arguements about older and younger filmmakers arise, all I see is a cluster of emotional aging men giving kudos to those who did well in their very time.

Nike deep your leg in a bow of water and watch Tunde Kelani's Arugba...... You'll be dumbfounded..... His movies are all about the art, the entertainment part of it has been killed sorta yet people still want to say he is number one......

I rest my case!!!
 

Sola

Administrator
Staff member
#50
And must any new director acknowledge Tunde Kelani's?? The TK's didn't start it at all..... They were great filmmakers before them and they will be greater after them.... Simply said!!

Each time arguements about older and younger filmmakers arise, all I see is a cluster of emotional aging men giving kudos to those who did well in their very time.
The symptoms you exhibit speak of one who has no proper understanding of what he speaks, Sky. TK is no GREAT filmmaker/Director, but he is really GOOD. In cinematography, he is GREAT. As to the great filmmakers before him, name one.

secondly, you may be "arguing" about older and younger filmmakers, while I am just asking you to defend a claim you made as quoted in my previous post. But you obviously can't defend that claim, so you're throwing tantrums as a deflection. You do not need to get insulting in the process, my friend.

Finally, as this thread is obviously heading nowhere, I did not call any movie-maker Number one. Those are your words. Anyone in the know would not label movie-makers like that because it honestly cannot be categorised like that. And there is no age in making films. There's just the work of your hands and the fact that some actually make films while some of us settle for home video. Until we start acknowledging and properly crediting what is good in our midst, we will continue hailing mediocrity. What TK does that folks like you should copy quickly is take time to shoot each scene until he feels it is right, lighting it right, using the right equipment (not just throwing money at it), etc. When many of our "filmmakers" are all aged and dead, to use your age inference, the fluff we mostly make will be instantly forgotten while those made well will stand the test of time. It is well.
 

Amiga

Wonder woman
#51
ok. so the other filmmakers like Kunle and Tunde cut and paste?

by the way my dear girl, would you say the same if per chance you favorite star were not in it?:1087:what is Hollywood standard? style, format, story, package? or because it was shot on 35mm film? or that its a union film? the very word "Hollywood standard" shows a high level of ignorance. English and south African and Senegalese movies are not "standard" then? they meet no "standards" of filmmaking?

do a google search for Tunde Kelani before you raise a movie you have not seen higher than him please. what is exciting about that trailer? the amateur lighting? if it were any other person, you Nike007 would have shot the person down. i can pull up some threads for you. lets be objective please. people were she she came all this raise myself...

YouTube - The Amazing Grace Movie Trailer

in case you have not seen Jeta's amazing grace which is at blockbuster distributed by Vivendi Universal... here's to help you.
You simply had to take it there, its always about her isnt it? There must be some deep seated issue - sort it out.

Oh i know you'll come back with guns blazing, but thats alright :love004:
 

sky_flies

Well-Known Member
#52
The symptoms you exhibit speak of one who has no proper understanding of what he speaks, Sky. TK is no GREAT filmmaker/Director, but he is really GOOD. In cinematography, he is GREAT. As to the great filmmakers before him, name one.

secondly, you may be "arguing" about older and younger filmmakers, while I am just asking you to defend a claim you made as quoted in my previous post. But you obviously can't defend that claim, so you're throwing tantrums as a deflection. You do not need to get insulting in the process, my friend.


Finally, as this thread is obviously heading nowhere, I did not call any movie-maker Number one. Those are your words. Anyone in the know would not label movie-makers like that because it honestly cannot be categorised like that. And there is no age in making films. There's just the work of your hands and the fact that some actually make films while some of us settle for home video. Until we start acknowledging and properly crediting what is good in our midst, we will continue hailing mediocrity. What TK does that folks like you should copy quickly is take time to shoot each scene until he feels it is right, lighting it right, using the right equipment (not just throwing money at it), etc. When many of our "filmmakers" are all aged and dead, to use your age inference, the fluff we mostly make will be instantly forgotten while those made well will stand the test of time. It is well.
I wrote a book to reply you, but on the second thought, its irrelevant......

Moreover, I did not insult you.... Saying that you are aging and emotional, innoquously, wasn't an insult, well to me...... Maybe, you feel I shouldn't be talking to you like that, and if so, let me make a virtue of necessity and apologize. I think you don't deserve to be insulted, NEVER on NR.... IMO (Please don't respond to this).

And I intentional didn't and don't want to get into an arguement with you about TK, not because I have little or nothing to say (whether sensible or senseless.....), but because I just don't feel like knowing he is somewhat your mentor and you, his fan..... Plus having assessed you as someone who hardly considers anothers opinion when yours have been made......

I support "kpa kpa kpa filmmakers" and you support "filmmakers"...... It is well, indeed....

At the end of the day, I wish all with (even) the ability and a audience the best.....
 

Sola

Administrator
Staff member
#53
Its alright, Sky. You obviously still don't get it, but no sweat. TK is not my mentor - he is one of the many mentors of ALL OF US - including you - in African home video movies. You don't have to correct a misrepresentation only if you're associated with someone. For us to grow, we need to always acknowledge those who paved the way, one way or the other. Those friends of yours you called "kpa kpa kpa filmmakers" - it just may surprise you how many of them I also call friend like you do, but I'm not going down that route. Support "quality filmmaking" - not personalities. I know your heart is in the right place though. You only want the best for the industry and in that, we can both agree. Regards.
 
#54
Na wah o. I actually see value in both sides of the argument though. Lets just say that we all hope this movie can continue from where The figurine left off - creating a new standard for Nollywood. How about we all agree on that?
 

elisawwf007

Well-Known Member
#55
This fight here don brighten my day this morning. I woke up with a raging PMS and just reading this elevated my stress. Angela81 is good at pouring gasoline in an already blazing fire. I get the point that she is making sha, including everybody else. Chineze has the right to tute her own horn if she wants to. If she no sell her own movie, who else go sell am for her? She did not throw shades on other producers (she might have been thinking it). Angela please slow your roll. And everybody else, let Angela be. You should all know her MO by now. Actually come to think of it, Angela has hipped praises on this film in a previous thread. The only thing she took offense with concerning this interview is the fact that Chinezie said that because it took 18months to make her movie, it is the only film to have surpassed the Hollywood standard, that i disagree with. But please don't stop your fight, I am truly enjoying myself. I knew this would happen the moment I read this article days ago. I was meaning to post it on naijarules, but I forgot. So carry go with una fight.
 

Amiga

Wonder woman
#56
I'm surprised you guys still don't get it.
Angela hates anything that has to do with Genevieve Nnaji
. She will go out of her way to ensure that any project featuring Genevieve gets negative press. The fact that we're even discussing this movie is good for its publicity so I urge her to keep up her hatred. This movie is bound to go places and nothing she does will prevent this movie form being regarded as a great Nollywood movie.
Meddeen, i clocked her on the first page. Lol, lets drink to the foolishness:food-smil:food-smiley-005:
 

blackpearl

Well-Known Member
#60
Ije hits cinemas

Chineze Anyaene dreamt of becoming one of the best Nigerian directors, not minding her young age. Now, the lady who studied film making in a film academy in the US has come up with a blockbuster titled Ije.

Shot on celluloid in Hollywood, Ije features two of Nigerian best actresses, Omotola Jalade and Genevieve Nnaji, and other Latin American and American stars.

According to Anyaene, "I wanted to make a film of Hollywood standard. So, when I finished my Master's at the New York Film Academy, I decided to embark on this project. I wanted a film that would appeal to everybody, not only Nigerians. We shot the movie for six weeks and did the post production for nine months."

The story is about two Nigerian sisters, one based in Nigeria and the other based in the US. The US-based sister was accused of murder and was put in jail. The Nigeria-based one had to fly all the way to the US to help her sister out of the situation.

Anyaene who has done well over 10 short films said she got tired of doing such and wanted to go for something bigger.

"This film was my thesis in school. I am just a student straight from school with this film. The movie has been screened at the Waner Brothers in the US. We have already entered the movie for eight international film festivals," she said.

Anyaene disclosed that the movie would be premiered in Nigeria later in the year.

The Punch - Nigeria's Most Widely Read Daily Newspaper
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top