Invasion! Ghanaians eclipse Nollywood stars

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vince

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Takestyle,i know what's wrong with you.You are quick to rush in defense of your fellow igbo marketers brethren,because you think your tribesmen are under attack from yoruba guys.Is it not?
I think you are a filmmaker,right?I pray you make a movie and take it home to these guys,as an independent filmmaker,to distribute for you in the naija market.Then,you will learn whether these guys give a damn whether you are their tribesman or not.You will learn why pompom(Mildred Okwo) who is also igbo,incidentally,has refused to use them as her distributor for 30 Days,hence delaying the release.
You will learn why Amaka Igwe refused to work with them.You will learn why these guys don't give a damn about anybody(including their tribesfolks) but themselves,when it comes to money matter.Then you will learn whether these guys care about the wellbeing of nollywood,or themselves.Then you will come back to NR and tell us whether vince's utterances about these guys were based on tribalistic tendencies,or on correct observations.
I just pray you deal with them with your movie,i really do.
 

peculiar

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Na wa o!:redface

Actually, i have an idea!:o

Let's make a movie from NAIJARULES stables......:musik35:

Let those that can write scripts write
Producers and directors on NR....start thinking!
Let those that can act volunteer
Let those that can sort wardrobe and make-up hands up
Those that will find locations, begin work
Publicity guys get ready
Financial supporters........start saving.....

Let's make this a reality!:fing02:

YES WE CAN!!!:fing33:
 

Abike

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:d
na wa o!:redface

actually, i have an idea!

Let's make a movie from naijarules stables......:musik35:

Let those that can write scripts write
producers and directors on nr....start thinking!
Let those that can act volunteer
let those that can sort wardrobe and make-up hands up
those that will find locations, begin work
publicity guys get ready
financial supporters........start saving.....

Let's make this a reality!:fing02:

yes we can!!!:fing33:
 

takestyle

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Takestyle,i know what's wrong with you.You are quick to rush in defense of your fellow igbo marketers brethren,because you think your tribesmen are under attack from yoruba guys.Is it not?
I think you are a filmmaker,right?I pray you make a movie and take it home to these guys,as an independent filmmaker,to distribute for you in the naija market.Then,you will learn whether these guys give a damn whether you are their tribesman or not.You will learn why pompom(Mildred Okwo) who is also igbo,incidentally,has refused to use them as her distributor for 30 Days,hence delaying the release.
You will learn why Amaka Igwe refused to work with them.You will learn why these guys don't give a damn about anybody(including their tribesfolks) but themselves,when it comes to money matter.Then you will learn whether these guys care about the wellbeing of nollywood,or themselves.Then you will come back to NR and tell us whether vince's utterances about these guys were based on tribalistic tendencies,or on correct observations.
I just pray you deal with them with your movie,i really do.
first of all... i never said anywhere in this post that i was Igbo.

i've not said anything about being a member of ANY tribe.

in fact, i explicitly stated that i am completely uninterested in tribal affairs in Nigeria. it's never been a major defining factor in my life... and it is less so today.

what i DO care about is FACT and REASON. and my issue here is that i have not seen you exhibiting either one of them.

secondly: i NEVER intended to deal with Nollywood marketers on ANY level... it has nothing to do with what tribe they are from; they just don't represent the kind of presentation i have ever wanted for my work... that has never even been an issue for me, so don't worry about that.

third: the bolded statement by you above:

vince said:
You will learn why these guys don't give a damn about anybody(including their tribesfolks) but themselves,when it comes to money matter.
is that not the diametric opposite of your persistent argument that the Igbo marketers' business/casting decisions are fueled entirely by tribal loyalties?

somehow, you've managed to turn around 180 degrees and come to the position that i have been stressing since: the marketers' main concern is MONEY... not tribe.

you've gotten to the point where you are contradicting yourself... that's what happens when you refuse to start your argument from a strong rational base... your emotions will blow you left and right until you are facing the opposite direction to where you started!
 

Honourable

Mr. Naijarules!
Honorable!!! :knuck I no want wahala o! Me dey live my life jeje o! :happy024:

But u just cant be wrong about that Biblical quote, people prefer to live ignorantly because rather they ride on their emotions they allow their emotions ride on them. Ignorance is a disease of illiteracy.... it doesnt matter if u learned or unlearned; illiteracy is a state of the mind, and neither educational capacity nor qualification defines a golden mind *like ur own. The only way to have it is to accept wen u don't have it and work towards having it

I no vex for u at all at all perhaps thanx for putting an end to my prayer for the ignorant. It is well my brother

*Hold ya head well so e no go explode
Hehehe! Bros, nothing do you! :fing05:

You are right though! What is the point of acquiring all the degrees and accolades when at the end of the day, some are still as frigid and inhibited in their thoughts as a caveman? What is the point?

LOL! I told ya! Why waste my time on the unredeemable when I can be praying for the the sick, the old and barren....prayin for promotion, MORE money, good health sef...I tell you sey my holy warra na from Jeru...I no fit waste am anyhowly...hehehe

Yes, it is well!:)

No worry my head no go explode! E fit swell small sha! :D
 

Honourable

Mr. Naijarules!
Oh my goodness! So it has now gotten to this? Wow!

It has now gotten to the point where any NR member who attempts to look at the recent situation in Nollywood from a constructive, realistic standpoint is suspected to be either Igbo, "a filmmaker", a "tribesmen" ..one of the "brethren"...e.t.c

So anyone that supports Nollywood at whatever level is automatically one of the above?

This is even more pathetic than I thought!! This is just plain nasty!!

Takestyle,i know what's wrong with you.You are quick to rush in defense of your fellow igbo marketers brethren,because you think your tribesmen are under attack from yoruba guys.Is it not?
I think you are a filmmaker,right?I pray you make a movie and take it home to these guys,as an independent filmmaker,to distribute for you in the naija market.
Then,you will learn whether these guys give a damn whether you are their tribesman or not.You will learn why pompom(Mildred Okwo) who is also igbo,incidentally,has refused to use them as her distributor for 30 Days,hence delaying the release.
You will learn why Amaka Igwe refused to work with them.You will learn why these guys don't give a damn about anybody(including their tribesfolks) but themselves,when it comes to money matter.Then you will learn whether these guys care about the wellbeing of nollywood,or themselves.Then you will come back to NR and tell us whether vince's utterances about these guys were based on tribalistic tendencies,or on correct observations.
I just pray you deal with them with your movie,i really do.
 

takestyle

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Oh my goodness! So it has now gotten to this? Wow!

It has now gotten to the point where any NR member who attempts to look at the recent situation in Nollywood from a constructive, realistic standpoint is suspected to be either Igbo, "a filmmaker", a "tribesmen" ..one of the "brethren"...e.t.c
vince is right about me being a filmmaker; i'll give him that.

i don't know about the "brethren" part, though...
 

sky_flies

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Chai!You don't even know who you are dealing with here.You think these guys give a rat's ass?You will learn soon enough.Just stay tuned.
Oga Vince, u absolutely right that certain (most) marketers do not give a hoot about Nollywood being for Nigeria therefore they can cast as much as foreign stars they want to thus it gets them a higher pocket not minding if they arent Nigerians. Also remember that these same marketers with love for money also have a quest for power. After they make money they would want to be recognized by Africans and maybe the world as Nigerians but how can they get that recognition which they are already selling out for money? I do not know how many marketers who prefer chicken fee to power but definite about 5% that are more concerned about power than money.

The problem with the marketers using foreign casts is simple- If I must say they know their movies do not have a vision, message and authentication then they look for foreign African faces so the country people seeing their stars would purchase "Nollywood" movies. I am yet to see a top rated Nollywood movie (in terms of story, plot and message) with any non-Nigerian for the purpose of sales. Most of the movies that have seen these non-Nigerian cast painfully are the best and worse of our sub standards. They are all sticked to same partition of Nollywood movie telling with "few" foreign cast that arent better than ours.

Tell me an Ego Boyo needs a Van Vicker's face to sell her wonderfully made movie? Such producers/marketers have visionary movies with stories that sell themselves. Tell me likes of Kingsley Ogoro needs Jackie Appiah's not so good act to sell his movie.... Brother! he certainly doesnt and won't compromise sales for the better talents which our stars tend to give though with higher figure. They are still people who want to make good movies so when seen in the decade would be commended by the newer generation. Those producers and marketers are very much alive and they know who to bank on when they want to make such movies.

Permit me to bring Genevieve, Joke, Ramsey and RMD into this, thats why I respect them amongst all their colleagues, cuz they all built so much power for themselves which makes us tend to over exaggerate their talents and also think they are worth billions but they arent. They simply work hand in hand with their pride and talents. Those marketers are too possessive over what they dont have but think they have. They think they have the right to make and unmake stars..... they forget that they do not; its we the viewers who have that power.

These marketers definitely fail to understand the rules to be respected (and be powerful) which they want to command while they haven't earned respect. The marketers are simply out there making it a public news that the reason they cast Ghanaians or other Africans is for sales. They forget that they are giving authorities to these people over us by such comments. The reasons Nigerians and most Africans get Visas to go USA, UK.... is mostly to school, holiday, invest..... it all goes down to spending money or working and building them, but hardly is the revealed to the world, those with instinct know its true. Rather our marketers take note of that, they are busy placing money before respect, value and showing Nollywood as an industry in seek of more faces that can make profitable sales than real talents. It may take time for them to notice that as they try to make sales in any means necessary there harming themselves and our industry. Hope it doesnt get late

Remember Obama promised USA citizens "WE WILL GET THERE, I PROMISE U WE WILL GET". I promising u all, we will get there, just dont know how long it will take
 

moviewizard

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Vince,
You also forgot that Ghanians are also nollywood's biggest fans, and they love to watch movies with genevieve, ini, omotola and co....so its not just about their stars, i even heard that Ghanians are not that crazy about Van Vicker the way nigerians are, so you need to see this on the balance point of view...i dont think their is any invasion, more like collaboration and nollywood stars would continue getting their roles same with the ghanian stars. So dont think Ghanians are just content with seeing movies with only their stars, they are nollywood'ss biggest fans which is why the whole talk of invasion is even coming out in the first place. Just like they want their stars, they want to see nollywood stars too, they crave for them, its not like movies with nollywood stars are not selling in ghana,the only thing is they pair them alongside ghanian stars,so i dont think our stars need to call for alarm which they arent anyways..
 

takestyle

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moviewizard makes a good point.

at least two Ghanaian posters have confirmed that Ghanaians generally tend to be more into Majid Michael than they are into Van Vicker... so Van Vicker's more frequent presence in the movies seems designed to appeal more to NIGERIANS than to Ghanaians. (ditto Nadia Buari... Ghanaians are more interested in Jackie Appiah.)

so once again, the whole idea that marketers are trying to move their business to Ghana is proven to be a load of bunk!
 

takestyle

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Looks seem to be a huge secret of success in entertainment
of COURSE it is...

seriously, movies are not about "good acting" per se. good acting helps... it can be important, but good looks might be even more so (depending on the kind of movie we're talking about, of course).

obviously, movies are a VISUAL medium... so the audience wants some appealing stuff to LOOK at.
 

sky_flies

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seriously, movies are not about "good acting" per se. good acting helps... it can be important, but good looks might be even more so (depending on the kind of movie we're talking about, of course).
It really is else Rita Dominic ought to be the noise of Nollywood
 

Sisi

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Thickmadam is my girl for real, but i don't agree with what she has said.

Obama is the president elect and it's a wonderful thing... but it didn't happen by magic. and he didn't win just because people decided "let's have a black president in the name of unity."

he won because he was the best candidate, who offered the best argument and the best vision for the future.

and it's not like now that he's won that the world is going to suddenly change and become all rainbows and unicorns.... there is going to be a LOT of struggle, a LOT of fighting to get to where we all HOPE to be.

it's the same thing here... there are certain issues that need to be hashed out, and just sweeping them under the carpet in the name of "unity" is not going to solve anything.

i say we air it out.

i personally shall try to exclude myself from the kind of highly personal mudslinging that seems to be going on between Sisi and Honourable, but where anybody presents anything under the guise of an actual argument... yes, i will step up to vet it (if i feel like it, anyway).


tell the above lie to your clique.

well it is not just between me and shehonourable, but you also.

you are always quick to call me a tribalist just becos i dont share your views. you a tribalist calling another person one! wonders shall never ceize (sp) on nr. am a tribalist, yes i agree. at least am proud to identify with my own tribe unlike you who is a coward.

just becos the issue involved surrounds ur ibo marketers, you are too biased to say the truth. a truth that is obvious to most of the pple (except for a few clowns like you and chi, shehonourable + skyflies). for you to blatantly refuse what is obvious to majority of pple shows your opinions on other issues are not to be taken serious.

you stay here and practice selective believe system. once an article favours you, you are least bothered about its source. but let it be what you don't want to hear, you want to confirm the source first!

another style you use is to determine who is an authority in the movie industry. the other day, becos sola fosudo shared an opinion that portrays ur views, you automatically saw him as an authority. but then, the likes of the kelanis and femi ogendemgbes, the same yemi solade you quoted are no authority, but to you, they must be frustrated to have aired some views. it is a pity anyone can hide behind the internet to rant, otherwise, i would have wanted to compare ur cv vis a vis those of the ogendemgbes and kelanis whom you see as being frustrated.

the yemi solade you used as a reference point the last time you replied to my post, i helped you (knowing you are always confused and too lazy to make research anyway. afterall, only ur laziness and confused state of mind could have made you allege i was the person canvasing for genocide against your tribe!) to copy and paste an interview he gave narrating his experience in the hands of some ibo producers/marketers. all that came from you was a golden silence!

anyway, in the land of the blind, a single eyed person is their king! no wonder chi, skyflies and shehonourable(who is a tout and so proud to flaunt that identity off to the world) have made you king!!!
as for me ts, am too intelligent for your level. continue to sell your half baked knowledge to the subjects in ur kingdom. they sure have been believing you and i predict it would take a whole lot of time of education before their iq could improve.
 

sky_flies

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just becos the issue involved surrounds ur ibo marketers, you are too biased to say the truth. a truth that is obvious to most of the pple (except for a few clowns like you and chi, shehonourable + skyflies). for you to blatantly refuse what is obvious to majority of pple shows your opinions on other issues are not to be taken serious.


anyway, in the land of the blind, a single eyed person is their king! no wonder chi, skyflies and shehonourable(who is a tout and so proud to flaunt that identity off to the world) have made you king!!!
as for me ts, am too intelligent for your level. continue to sell your half baked knowledge to the subjects in ur kingdom. they sure have been believing you and i predict it would take a whole lot of time of education before their iq could improve.
Sisi kini problem se! Wetin I do u? abeg leave my ID alone help: somebody help:!!!

Besides im sure Chi, TS and Honorable dont wont a fight/arguement with u.... is it bad for some1 2 disagree with u? Mistake: Slipped my fingers!!!!!!

Okay! I agree with u o! Iwo! You alone, my beaurriful sister, we are one...... you will be surprised on how much sides Id take wen Ghanaians or other African countries insult Yorrywood. Im sorry if my post hurt ur feel but pls stop castings degrading words.... All the while I read all the posts and quotes btw u, TS, Honorable and Chi, u have been the one directly insulting them while they tease u. To make matters worse u can yarb pesin!!!!!!! Haba my sis :D





All we need is one love u hear?
 
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