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Is Nollywood losing Tunde Kelani (TK)?

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Oyinkan

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kolinzo said:
Check this out. I have nothing against other culture. EMG is mainly dominated b the easteners and I have tons of their movies here in my place. Questions for you, do you think if they touch other ethnicities they can make more money, attracts more customers? Do you think if they touch other ethnicities they can educate pple outside naija? If charity begins at home why call it Naija movie why not Ibo movie? Don't get me wrong, I ain't saying these because of my tribe- if that's what you'r thinking- my tribe can't be put aside whether nollywood is the biggest thing in the world or not. Other small ethnicities need to be brought into light so pple can know that there is more to Naija. After all these ibo this yoruba that, my guess is that big corperate companies will take over in the future. Where would that leave the EMG? Go back and start doing Ibo movies or ban the big companies? You know there'd be a balancing in who gets scripts!
i strongly agree wif u on dat
 

bluestocking

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kolinzo said:
What are you saying don't you live in Lagos? Did you read the thread that some Ibo marketers sell Yoruba movies? Nobody asked them not to sell movies- whatever movies they choose to sell. But how many Yoruba, hausa, egbira, efiks( spelling) etc actors,script writers, directors do you see in the EMG? It's called the EMG not IMG!! This is not the issue of who is controling the large market, it is the issue of how it's being done. Believe me you, I appreciate EMG but it sometimes get to a stage I wonder if Naija could offer more than what is being presented to us!
But wasnt there a time they said that there was a mafia, a delta and edo mafia of directors? Those are not Igbos are they?
To be honest with you, i'm a major critic of the nigerian movie industry as a whole, be it EMG o or YMG, if you ask me honestly, i daresay it's a load of crap. You hardly can find any real good quality movie and it's getting worse by the day. There's hardly any professionalism and it's a kind of an all-comers affair. Until the sector is sanitized it cant move forward. But if we want to criticize let's not say, it's the marketers that causing the wahala, cos if the truth be told they are not the only ones. They dont write the scripts do they? they dont act and they are not all the directors too, it's a general problem that needs to be adressed.
Look like i've said it's time for us as nigerians to move away from all these ethnic crap, cos only then can we move ahead as a nation. The idea that once people dont accept you or the way you the do things is simply because they're being tribalistic will not take us anywhere.
 

Sola

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#47
bluestocking said:
But wasnt there a time they said that there was a mafia, a delta and edo mafia of directors? Those are not Igbos are they?
It was never a Mafia like we have now. The boys just happend to be the first out the door in terms of directing Nollywood movies, that's all. Fred Amata (who simply followed his folks, quickly followed by his brothers), zeb Ejiro whose brother Chico followed, Opa Williams who stopped producing movies about the same time as Amaka Igwe out of frustration, later Kingsley Ogoro, a few guys in the music business who scored for the movies (think Sammie Okposo, etc) etc. They were hired to direct, period. It was never a conscious ostracisation like we currently have.

Nollywood has to be shaken up from the roots to get a sense of direction. It takes money and someone with foresight to commandeer the marketing because right now, no one has control...although there is the illusion of control as a result of coercion. But it is just like Nigeria as a nation...same small minded problems. I don't sweat over it. The shaking will happen. Its just a matter of time.
 
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kolinzo said:
Check this out. I have nothing against other culture. EMG is mainly dominated b the easteners and I have tons of their movies here in my place. Questions for you, do you think if they touch other ethnicities they can make more money, attracts more customers? Do you think if they touch other ethnicities they can educate pple outside naija? If charity begins at home why call it Naija movie why not Ibo movie? Don't get me wrong, I ain't saying these because of my tribe- if that's what you'r thinking- my tribe can't be put aside whether nollywood is the biggest thing in the world or not. Other small ethnicities need to be brought into light so pple can know that there is more to Naija. After all these ibo this yoruba that, my guess is that big corperate companies will take over in the future. Where would that leave the EMG? Go back and start doing Ibo movies or ban the big companies? You know there'd be a balancing in who gets scripts!


How many times have the Yorubas showed other cultures and ethnicities in their movies? The Yoruba movies are made solely for Yoruba people, that's why they don't speak any other language expect Yoruba. The only reason people are complaining about the Ibos not showing other cultures in their movies is because they have the bigger international market. Let the Yoruba marketers produce their own movies in English and promote their culture all they want.
 
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pompom

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Both Yorubas and Igbos do this and it spills into the history of the two cultures from long time Imo River. Nobody should be placing any blame solely on the Igbo marketer. It is bigger than Nollywood in some ways and you can see it in the politics of Nigeria. A lot of these marketers good or bad still remember vividly how they were treated after the civil war. That is a can of worms I really don't feel like going into right now.

The bottomline is that both cultures (hate the word tribes) need to start learning to work together for the betterment of Nigeria. A first step was taken in politics this December when a huge meeting was convened by the politicians of Southern Nigeria. It was a historical occasion that I never knew would happen in my lifetime. We need such a meeting for Nollywood if the powers that be can put their egos aside and work together.

Enuf said
 

Sola

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#51
The Yoruba element is historical. They started with the Alarinjo live theatre shows. Then, women were not allowed to do things like acting, so the likes of Ogunde used his wives (and he married many) in his plays. Families grew and supported the family business.

Now, this same Yoruba theatre folks started making films, so they just came with the mentality that has saved them money and resources and helped them attain sucess in their fields for years. At the beginning, it was not a "parapo" thing. It was just out of necessity. You had to speak Yoruba to act Yoruba plays. And they only acted the plays in Yoruba areas anyhow.

This spilled into the Home Video business with the Yorubas. I don't know how they do it now, but that is the histroy of the Yoruba element.

The Igbo element is tad different, though also historical. Nollywood started as a cross-ethnic thing. Everyone was welcome. But the marketer became king and the marketer just happens to be Igbo. Now, these same marketers (who used to sell electronics mainly) also have a history of bringing their brothers and extended family members as apprentices into their trade in their shops. So, understandably, these attitude also flowed into Nollywood. At first it was movie selling and funding. Then when some of the pseudo producers amongst the crowd back then started making the job look easy while taking money from the marketsr without delivering the movies, the marketers also decided to step up and become a producer, actor, director, bringing the whole family along.

And so the ethnic issues in Nollywood both have legitimate histrories, but to resolve them, we have to start supporting quality, no matter were it comes from, not encouraging mediocrity in the name of the young shall grow. While they are growing, everyone is getting a bad name. Use those who havr grown now...today. It has to be a conscious effort to break with the histroy.
 

Sola

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thegothic_dude said:
Yeah, but what happens when they do take over?
Why does it matter anymore? When you're stupid enough to lose control of what is yours, why should it matter what the outsiders do? Whatever happens, it will be a hard lesson. Please spare me.

By the way, you need to disable the two extra User IDs you have. You're supposed to have only one here. I will not mention your name, but you and I know who you are.
 

The Maverick

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But back to the point of the thread. Sola I don't think it's wise for outsiders to come and take over, but unfortantely, it's bound to happen and like you said it's only a matter of time.

Nonetheless, I strongly believe that we can arrange and organize ourselves and harness the immerse resources and payoff of the industry.
 
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Hubscrown said:
Talking of Multi-Personalities.smokin:

Could this be Zimmy or Meddeen.


Dude, if you really know me, then you'd know I'm not someone who hides his indentity because of mere opinions. Whatever I don't approve off, I don't support it. Why should I use multiple user IDs just because I want to express my opinion? I don't fear anyone when I want to give my opinion and I will never allow intimidation to stop me from expressing my views.help:
 
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