Mr and Mrs.

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Kala Lou

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I'm actually glad they didn't do the 'phone thingy'... we use phones far too much in our films and not always very well. Showing the kids could easily have dragged it out even more. I think they kept the 'full' movie nice and contained and in a reasonable amount of time.
So having a story about 2 sets of parents that are going through marital problems where the kids do not play a factor of any kind in the matter, in any shape or form?? You don't see that as a major hole in the plot? come on now...
 

Kala Lou

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I do understand where you guys are coming from. Have we ever seen a 'perfect & flawless' film? - Probably not. Also there are various things that influence us ALL.
If you look at the dates of my posts you will see that I watched this the very day after seeing the absymal 'Somewhere In Africa' which, incidentally you gave a 7/10. Obviously watching 'Mr & Mrs' right off the back of such an awful film will influence me into thinking 'Mr & Mrs' as the best thing since sliced bread - and I'm going to stick by that because that's exactly how it made me 'feel'.
First impressions count and that was my first impression - totally loved it. You guys are completely right to say it didn't do it for you and I respect your reasons.
I never said the movie was bad because it wasn't perfect, infact I praised the acting in the movie...but I still see more plot holes in this movie than in Somewhere in Africa. So the woman changed her husbands' and mom inlaws demeanor from bad to good just because she played a prank on him..come on..

Somewhere in Africa, 7/10 was being generous because I was grading on a curve(for Nolly/gholly), but TO ME that movie was still more entertaining than Mr. & Mrs. Somewhere in Africa was more of an ambitious project than Mr. & Mrs., with all the location changes and what not.
 

Village-Boi

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#43
So having a story about 2 sets of parents that are going through marital problems where the kids do not play a factor of any kind in the matter, in any shape or form?? You don't see that as a major hole in the plot? come on now...
They DID play a factor - we knew of the conversations they had and how aware they were of the situation.

I never said the movie was bad because it wasn't perfect, infact I praised the acting in the movie...but I still see more plot holes in this movie than in Somewhere in Africa. So the woman changed her husbands' and mom inlaws demeanor from bad to good just because she played a prank on him..come on..

Somewhere in Africa, 7/10 was being generous because I was grading on a curve(for Nolly/gholly), but TO ME that movie was still more entertaining than Mr. & Mrs. Somewhere in Africa was more of an ambitious project than Mr. & Mrs., with all the location changes and what not.
We are allowed to differ, nothing wrong in that. Plot holes? Somewhere in Africa had NO plot - apart from I-am-now-in-charge-and-kill-people-for-the-fun-of-it. Ambitious? As I said before they bit off far more than they could chew by being 'stupidly' ambitious. That film totally sucked.
Is your argument 'The more locations you have, the better the film'? You really don't believe that. You say you graded it on a Nolly/Golly 'influence'? Fair enough. I graded 'Mr & Mrs' on a just-seen 'SIA' influence and in my opinion it was light-years better.
Seriously? ? ? The 'plot holes' in 'SIA' were so huge there wasn't anything left. Having said that, I too praised some of the acting in 'SIA'.
 

Kala Lou

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They DID play a factor - we knew of the conversations they had and how aware they were of the situation.



We are allowed to differ, nothing wrong in that. Plot holes? Somewhere in Africa had NO plot - apart from I-am-now-in-charge-and-kill-people-for-the-fun-of-it. Ambitious? As I said before they bit off far more than they could chew by being 'stupidly' ambitious. That film totally sucked.
Is your argument 'The more locations you have, the better the film'? You really don't believe that. You say you graded it on a Nolly/Golly 'influence'? Fair enough. I graded 'Mr & Mrs' on a just-seen 'SIA' influence and in my opinion it was light-years better.
Seriously? ? ? The 'plot holes' in 'SIA' were so huge there wasn't anything left. Having said that, I too praised some of the acting in 'SIA'.
You're right I don't believe that, but what i believe is that if you're shooting a flick with about 6 principal actors and about four main sets that should allow you the time and leeway to produce a tighter script than what they came up with, like you said we are allowed to differ, I know you didn't like SIA but to say it had no plot??? But for me if I was forced to sit through either of those 2 movies again it will be Somewhere in Africa.
 

samira

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#45
By Jibril Sado

A good thing, it is said, cannot possibly remain hidden or in obscurity forever. In the case of Nollywood actress Nse Ikpe-Etim, this could hardly be truer. Her thespian star continues to grow in such a way that one can no longer ignore her acting prowess or discuss her honestly as a side dish in Nollywood. Mr. & Mrs., one of her more recent movies certainly makes a good case for her in this regard.

Mr. & Mrs. is a romantic drama featuring Nse as Mrs. Kenneth Abah and Benjamin Joseph as her irreverent husband. The movie tells the story of a much-maltreated young woman who decides to repair her lopsided marital relationship with her domineering, class-obsessed husband by seizing a lifeline inadvertently thrown her way by the husband and his overbearing mother. Susan, a drycleaner’s daughter (well, to the Abahs he is a washman but Susan insists he be called drycleaner) meets and falls in love with Kenneth, the son of a politician and they eventually get married. As Ken’s father’s political fortunes improve, Ken convinces Susan to become a fulltime housewife since, courtesy his getting more oil blocks, Ken now makes “enough money to take care of a community”.

Things, however, turn sour as Ken begins to treat Susan with disdain. He even cheats on her blatantly and torments her verbally, reminding her of her “wretched” background. Once, following a quarrel, he tells her she can leave the marriage if she feels uncomfortable with the state of affairs. His mother (played by Barbara Soky) also encourages him to divorce the “ingrate”. Emotionally-drained, Susan consults a counsellor, Mrs. Brown, a psychologist-cum-lawyer. Subsequently, what Ken initially planned as a mere threat to make Susan meeker and more sober quickly grows beyond his control. To the surprise of mother and son, Susan insists she also wants out of the marriage, this coming at a time when Ken’s father is vying for governorship. So, while Ken’s mother wants a divorce, she also craves assurance that no resultant scandal would affect her husband’s chances at the polls. She thus proposes a compromise in which, although the couple would be officially divorced, they must remain in Ken’s house and pretend to still be married until after the election. Susan gleefully accedes, but Ken, taken aback by her enthusiastic accord, hesitates until his mum and Mrs. Brown cajole him. Under the arrangement, Mrs. Brown grants the couple confidential divorce and they are to live in separate wings of the same house with not the slightest obligation to each other.

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I get it now....will rewatch it...was a bit confused by the sudden events in the movie
 

tunmi

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#46
I agree with the different rooms we see. The director did a great job with that.

For a moment there, we see two women (Susan and Monica) not being rivals and that's a first for me in films, whether Naija or otherwise. Only for a moment sha

I did not like the way the counselor was set up. I applaud the film for having a marriage counselor but her office was eh. The large table between her and her clients creates a wedge between her and her clients. I see her as a boss not as one who actually listens to people and help them solve her problems. That table in her office really bugged me. She was more like a lawyer than a counselor/therapist.

The film lacked transitions. The scenes were too jarring with not enough space (editing wise) to insert a transition.

Kudos to Ikechukwu Onyeka. The directing and production were really good but the script needed work. The dialogue did not flow well at all. It was as of the actors were missing lines. The words and the conversations were too abrupt and awkward. It wasn't coherent.

Nse and Joseph Benjamin did really well in this film. I especially love whomever styled Nse. I want that Ankara dress she had one, the one with pockets.

Favorite part:
MAGGIE: "Oga, it's rice and stew o. [She takes the food away] Oga you go hungry o"

Memorable:
Charles telling his wife that he was being a good husband because of the maid (he was snagging the maid)

Susan (Nse) telling her friend that "a woman who cannot maintain/keep her home has failed". Is that all a woman is in Naija?

???
When did Susan become an embodiment of wisdom?
What happened to Kenneth's and Charles's affairs??
 

Kala Lou

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#47
I agree with the different rooms we see. The director did a great job with that.

For a moment there, we see two women (Susan and Monica) not being rivals and that's a first for me in films, whether Naija or otherwise. Only for a moment sha

I did not like the way the counselor was set up. I applaud the film for having a marriage counselor but her office was eh. The large table between her and her clients creates a wedge between her and her clients. I see her as a boss not as one who actually listens to people and help them solve her problems. That table in her office really bugged me. She was more like a lawyer than a counselor/therapist.

The film lacked transitions. The scenes were too jarring with not enough space (editing wise) to insert a transition.

Kudos to Ikechukwu Onyeka. The directing and production were really good but the script needed work. The dialogue did not flow well at all. It was as of the actors were missing lines. The words and the conversations were too abrupt and awkward. It wasn't coherent.

Nse and Joseph Benjamin did really well in this film. I especially love whomever styled Nse. I want that Ankara dress she had one, the one with pockets.

Favorite part:
MAGGIE: "Oga, it's rice and stew o. [She takes the food away] Oga you go hungry o"

Memorable:
Charles telling his wife that he was being a good husband because of the maid (he was snagging the maid)

Susan (Nse) telling her friend that "a woman who cannot maintain/keep her home has failed". Is that all a woman is in Naija?

???
When did Susan become an embodiment of wisdom?
What happened to Kenneth's and Charles's affairs??
That's what tripped me out...I would have thought all you beaurriful women of NR would be offended by the message the movie is sending. Since all Nolly flicks are keen on giving a message, this one gives one at the end too. Nse's character tells her friend that all men will mess up and their(wives) job is to clean up the mess and move on?? The message at the end leads me to believe a man must have written this script. Make I go check the credits.
 

tunmi

Active Member
#48
That's what tripped me out...I would have thought all you beaurriful women of NR would be offended by the message the movie is sending. Since all Nolly flicks are keen on giving a message, this one gives one at the end too. Nse's character tells her friend that all men will mess up and their(wives) job is to clean up the mess and move on?? The message at the end leads me to believe a man must have written this script. Make I go check the credits.
MY POINT EXACTLY!! The camera work was well done but the content of the film really bothered me in the middle and towards the end. I do not like that message that these films give out because when I lived in Naija, (Mushin-so I am an ajepako) I never met such a woman. The women I knew were small business owners or housewives (but strong nonetheless), govt workers, etc. Sure they were not rich but I'll be damned if those women were push-overs. I just don't know if this is what I can expect in a Naija marriage because it's scary that I would be relegated to cleaning some guy's mess.
 

toammyb

Born to lead and follow
#52
From the little I saw, Jim did do a fab job, but the movie as a whole was not for me. I watched for about 45 mins and ffwd mostly :(
Really? I loved that movie. I thought the writing was great and Jim did a good job.
I only saw this movie on the weekend. The famous Joseph Benjamin was nice, a tiny weeny bit rough on the edges but considering he's only been around a few years, I have one message for Ramsey Nouah - as much as I love you and your evolution over the years, move over, there's a new kid on the block, join RMD in the political business cuz ya time don pass.

Movie got me LOL a few times, impressive diction not just from Nse who always delivers but from even the mother-in-law and psychologist who was an improvement from Tonto Dikeh in that movie with John Dumelo.

The housemaid from mother-in-law has the perfect facial expressions at each time, and the bit where the hubby saw his wife's "thing".

As a woman, I didn't have any problems with the movie because it caters to the group of men who are still so backward and retarded enough to think a woman is meant to be in the kitchen 24/7. That is not to say it's the norm in Nigeria. I think it seeks for people to strike a balance in their marriages, with men making sure they're not making a mistake of cooping up their wives in the house and women making sure they focus so much on their careers that their home suffers for it. Balance for me was the message.
 

tunmi

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#53
As a woman, I didn't have any problems with the movie because it caters to the group of men who are still so backward and retarded enough to think a woman is meant to be in the kitchen 24/7. That is not to say it's the norm in Nigeria. I think it seeks for people to strike a balance in their marriages, with men making sure they're not making a mistake of cooping up their wives in the house and women making sure they focus so much on their careers that their home suffers for it. Balance for me was the message.
But the movie did not make that point. In the end, we have the couples who seem to have forgotten everything they've gone through, smiling and laughing like it was some fun activity. It does not teach the men anything. Joseph Benjamin's character brought his ale (mistress) into his house, and I'm assuming into his bed. He was shown fondling the woman in the presence of his wife. I like that he did apologize and realize his wrong. That part I could live with (even though there was no therapy or counseling for both of them, which they needed).

Her friend was the one that bugged me the most. That part was not resolved, at all. At the end, it was almost as if the woman was apologizing. She was meek and her husband was consoling her or something and that was just weird. The movie doesn't even seek to strike a balance, it could have done that if it did not include the friend's issue as a subplot, but it did and it didn't even develop that well. The Doll House, Hedda Gabler and The Awakening had balance (scary balance, but balance nonetheless). This film did not quite get it.

Nse and Joseph Benjamin's plot had some balance (it could have been better), but the other couple---tch.

But seriously though, for the married people on here, how do you or would you deal with these situations, of a cheating spouse or any sort of infidelity?
 

toammyb

Born to lead and follow
#54
But the movie did not make that point. In the end, we have the couples who seem to have forgotten everything they've gone through, smiling and laughing like it was some fun activity. It does not teach the men anything. Joseph Benjamin's character brought his ale (mistress) into his house, and I'm assuming into his bed. He was shown fondling the woman in the presence of his wife. I like that he did apologize and realize his wrong. That part I could live with (even though there was no therapy or counseling for both of them, which they needed).

Her friend was the one that bugged me the most. That part was not resolved, at all. At the end, it was almost as if the woman was apologizing. She was meek and her husband was consoling her or something and that was just weird. The movie doesn't even seek to strike a balance, it could have done that if it did not include the friend's issue as a subplot, but it did and it didn't even develop that well. The Doll House, Hedda Gabler and The Awakening had balance (scary balance, but balance nonetheless). This film did not quite get it.

Nse and Joseph Benjamin's plot had some balance (it could have been better), but the other couple---tch.

But seriously though, for the married people on here, how do you or would you deal with these situations, of a cheating spouse or any sort of infidelity?

To be honest with you, that friend was a little bit silly for me, it was like they were excusing the hubby's infidelity. The man was not sorry for cheating...that's the only thing I had an issue with. Nse's story I thought was very well developed. I feel like they were asking viewers look to Nse's family for the solution to her friend's marital issues i.e. She was able to take a big job and still hold her own in the kitchen and bedroom and deal with (for want of a better word) her mother inlaw etc...

As for your question, I don't know how I would react unless I'm in that situation (God forbid)...and I think most people will agree...
 
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