Narrow Path by Tunde Kelani

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TheForce

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so is my father an academic even though my mum was not, but a graduate thou. i lived also in university quarters for the most part of my life from unijos to osua. you are not better than me in that area likewise and cannot floor me on that basis!
Ok!.........Now I get it. I should have guessed it though..... Huhm!

Teacher pikin jam teacher pikin....No sorry.

Professor pikin jam professor pikin,........ wetin go happen?

A never ending debate.
 

TheForce

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For the record though, "bell bottom trousers" and "bogida shoes" were the general fashion trend of the 70's, they just displaced the "pencil tight trousers" and stiletto shoes that were the norm in the 60's.... The 80's gave birth to "Crazy horse" and "bugle boy baggy trousers" carved out of stone wash and acid wash jeans. ... . And by the 90's hip hop trends took over the male fashion world.

But on a more serious note... I don't see how a little shift in fashion-time, can generate more hits and defense from these duo, and with so much desperation at that.
 

Sisi

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For the record though, "bell bottom trousers" and "bogida shoes" were the general fashion trend of the 70's, they just displaced the "pencil tight trousers" and stiletto shoes that were the norm in the 60's.... The 80's gave birth to "Crazy horse" and "bugle boy baggy trousers" carved out of stone wash and acid wash jeans. ... . And by the 90's hip hop trends took over the male fashion world.
But on a more serious note... I don't see how a little shift in fashion-time, can generate more hits and defense from these duo, and with so much desperation at that.
and from this, have you paused for once to think that perhaps not everyone disposed of every fashion that represented the 60s? or what proof have you that some of those styles were not of the 60s or earlier years that still managed to penetrate those of the 70s?

have you also not thot that perhaps some pple (designers) were daring enough to sow the same trousers styles they would their traditional wears i.e. the 'sokoto' style?
 
and from this, have you paused for once to think that perhaps not everyone disposed of every fashion that represented the 60s? or what proof have you that some of those styles were not of the 60s or earlier years that still managed to penetrate those of the 70s?

have you also thot that perhaps some pple (designers) were daring enough to sow the same trousers styles they would their traditional wears i.e. the 'sokoto' style?
Sisi, abeg give it up. Takestyle is right in this matter you know - not every costume in this movie was authentic to the period. Those guys were not, and there were a few other scenes that I can recall as well. The costuming in this movie was best for the traditional attire, that one, no one can fault (at least not that I can recall). I admire your tenacity in this discussion, but e don do abeg, jo, biko:love004::bouncy
 

takestyle

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and from this, have you paused for once to think that perhaps not everyone disposed of every fashion that represented the 60s? or what proof have you that some of those styles were not of the 60s or earlier years that still managed to penetrate those of the 70s?

have you also thot that perhaps some pple (designers) were daring enough to sow the same trousers styles they would their traditional wears i.e. the 'sokoto' style?
Sisi, Bugle Boy jeans didn't exist in the 1960s... or the 70s.

I already gave you the link that stated that stonewash jeans were not invented until 1982 and acid wash until 1986. And yet you can see a guy wearing it in a movie meant to be set in the 1970s.

I have to say, Sisi... I am slightly disappointed by you here. I usually like you even when we disagree, because you fight hard to defend your point and I respect that in any human being.

But when I see someone arguing for the sake of arguing... not even making any point except to say that someone is wrong... and not making any attempt to PROVE it with evidence... I really lose respect for that person.

Fashion is not a mystery... especially when we're talking about just30 and 40 years ago, not what they wore in the time of Jesus. It's very easy to find out what existed in any given year and what didn't.

If you want to claim that stone wash jeans existed in the 1960s and 70s, all you have to do is just show the picture of it and stop wasting everyone's time with this "how do you know it didn't exist?" business.

(I know I said I was done here--and I am--but I just had to interject with that.)
 

Sisi

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Sisi, Bugle Boy jeans didn't exist in the 1960s... or the 70s.

I already gave you the link that stated that stonewash jeans were not invented until 1982 and acid wash until 1986. And yet you can see a guy wearing it in a movie meant to be set in the 1970s.
i remember you once said in one of your posts - 'that why must we look up to the whites at all times to decide things for us'? now let me ask you back that same question, so does it make it true becos you read it in your dug up website that it was invested by a white in a particular year/season? tell me, how are u sure it was not invented first by an african and becos we are bad at keeping records, the idea was stolen by a white?

I have to say, Sisi... I am slightly disappointed by you here. I usually like you even when we disagree, because you fight hard to defend your point and I respect that in any human being.
stop the pretense ts, you have never liked me or was it not you that said you would spit in my face if you were ever opportuned to see me one on one?

But when I see someone arguing for the sake of arguing... not even making any point except to say that someone is wrong... and not making any attempt to PROVE it with evidence... I really lose respect for that person.
so it seems to you. unfortunately for you, i have told you times without number that am not easily convinced/influenced. you really need to prove to a great extent before i buy any of your takes. and moreover, becos of the few impressions you have painted your person to be with me, i see your views regarding a particular set of pple very prejudiced and that even makes it hard for you to easily convert me.

Fashion is not a mystery... especially when we're talking about just30 and 40 years ago, not what they wore in the time of Jesus. It's very easy to find out what existed in any given year and what didn't. If you want to claim that stone wash jeans existed in the 1960s and 70s, all you have to do is just show the picture of it and stop wasting everyone's time with this "how do you know it didn't exist?" business.

(I know I said I was done here--and I am--but I just had to interject with that.)
you can start by giving a chronicle of them all here.
 

Sisi

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Sisi, abeg give it up. Takestyle is right in this matter you know - not every costume in this movie was authentic to the period. Those guys were not, and there were a few other scenes that I can recall as well. The costuming in this movie was best for the traditional attire, that one, no one can fault (at least not that I can recall). I admire your tenacity in this discussion, but e don do abeg, jo, biko:love004::bouncy
thanks to you jare funmo. i did not want to give in easily to him becos how often does he come here to nail tchikere or any other mainsteam nolly producer he idolizes here despite all the junk most of them churn out often and tag movies?

moreover, is there any one perfect on earth? he should divert that criticism energy in him into nailing the others like tchidi into even coming up to the level of tk and not him looking for the minutest fault to negate all the man's (tk) achievements. whether he likes it or not, his movies are not at par with those others he tries to compare him to.
 

takestyle

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i remember you once said in one of your posts - 'that why must we look up to the whites at all times to decide things for us'? now let me ask you back that same question, so does it make it true becos you read it in your dug up website that it was invested by a white in a particular year/season? tell me, how are sure it was not one invested first by an african and becos we are bad at keeping records, the idea was stolen by a white?
*sigh* I curse myself for even responding, but here I go...

Sisi... I told you: I don't want to play speculation here. Let's talk about things we actually KNOW.

For instance, I happen to KNOW that there were NO jeans manufacturers whatsoever in Nigeria in 1970s--let alone anybody inventing acid wash--so yes, we got all our jeans from "the whites." And "the whites" had not invented acid wash yet.

if you know something different... We're on the Internet; it should be easy for you to just Google and find *some* information that proves acid wash was invented in Nigeria in 1974 before Guess? or anybody else thought of it.

(And by the way, I know when acid wash was invented not because I dug it up on some website... I know because I WAS THERE and I remember when it came into fashion and everybody started snatching the Mercedes symbol off Benzes to sell and buy stone wash)

Sisi said:
stop the pretense ts, you have never liked me or was it not you that said you would spit in my face if you are ever opportuned to see me one on one?
Ah-ah, Sisi! When was the last time I said that, though?

When was the last time I said ANY unkind word to you at all?

In fact, if you look back a few pages, I was even talking about dedicating an appreciation post to you... (but that's not really my style.)

But yes... You are making me lose respect for you here.


Sisi said:
so it seems to you. unfortunately for you, i have told you times without number that am not easily convinced/influenced. you really need to prove to a great extent before i buy any of your takes. and moreover, becos of the few impressions you have painted your person to be with me, i see your views regarding a particular set of pple very prejudiced and that even makes it hard for you to easily convert me.
Which particular set of people am I prejudiced against? People wearing baggy jeans in the 1970s? :1087:

See... This is the problem. What I liked about you before was the fact that you are not easily influenced. I like people who are skeptical... who question the information presented to them and don't accept things people say without adequate proof supporting it.

The problem is when someone shows you the proof and you STILL refuse to accept it just because you don't LIKE the truth that has been shown to you. That's just insane.

Sisi said:
you can start by giving a chronicle of them all here.
A chronicle of what? Of fashion?

LOL

Sisi... Stop being stubborn just to be stubborn. It's getting childish now...
 

takestyle

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thanks to you jare funmo. i did not want to give in easily to him becos how often does he come here to nail tchikere or any other mainsteam nolly producer he idolizes here despite all the junk most of them churn out often and tag movies?

moreover, is there any one perfect on earth? he should divert that criticism energy in him into nailing the others like tchidi into even coming up to the level of tk and not him looking for the minutest fault to negate all the man's (tk) achievements. whether he likes it or not, his movies are not at par with those others he tries to compare him to.
Oh... So THAT is what it is all about?

You KNOW that you are wrong, but you decided to keep arguing just because I praised Tchidi Chikere?

:roll
 

Sisi

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Oh... So THAT is what it is all about?

You KNOW that you are wrong, but you decided to keep arguing just because I praised Tchidi Chikere?

:roll
and why not ts? you were just looking for a way of reducing the man's ratings with pple too by saying he is like any nolly movie producer, weren't you ?
 

takestyle

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and why not ts? you were just looking for a way of reducing the man's ratings with pple too by saying he is like any nolly movie producer, weren't you ?
I didn't say he was like any Nolly producer... I said that his work has its own problems and that I don't think it is right to call him a "genius."
 

takestyle

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but he is, in the nigerian context anyway.
And here is where we disagree.

He is good.... In a lot of things he is better than any other filmmaker in Nigeria.

But to me a genius is a genius... I don't believe in saying "he is a genius by Nigerian standards."

Either he is a genius--and can stand as a genius anywhere in the world--or he is not.

Why is it so important that he be a "genius" anyway?
 

Sisi

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And here is where we disagree.

He is good.... In a lot of things he is better than any other filmmaker in Nigeria.

But to me a genius is a genius... I don't believe in saying "he is a genius by Nigerian standards."

Either he is a genius--and can stand as a genius anywhere in the world--or he is not.

Why is it so important that he be a "genius" anyway?
because:

  • he is my favourite naija producer.
  • i choose my friends based on my own free will and not allow others to choose them for me.
  • his movies always strike a cord in me that i don't often experience watching the other producers' movies.
 

takestyle

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because:

  • he is my favourite naija producer.
  • i choose my friends based on my own free will and not allow others to choose them for me.
  • his movies always strike a cord in me that i don't often experience watching the others producers' movies.
Fine... There's nothing wrong with that. If you like it, you like it... and there's no need to apologize for that.

But to try to argue what you were arguing before... It only weakens your point.
 

Sisi

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Fine... There's nothing wrong with that. If you like it, you like it... and there's no need to apologize for that.
But to try to argue what you were arguing before... It only weakens your point.
now you understand what i mean.

he is just one of the pple i call a genius e.g. i love beautiful nubia's music and musical lyrics and as such i left a message on his site and called him a 'genius'. i love likewise orlando owoh's voice and musical style ( a lot had to do with the early exposure to his works, (thanks to my father)) and i see him also as a genius etc. the truth is, anyone that can strike that particular cord in me and dares to be unique and successful at it, automatically have me regard them very highly and is more or less a genius to me.
 

blackpearl

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Okay i thought that this thread is about the movie NARROW PATH.
I wanted to have some ideas about the movie before i go and get it. This is just annoying, honestly....
If this thread is about TK's work, abeg we should split it cause it has nothing got to do with the reason why funmo opened the thread.

just my own 2 cents.
 

peculiar

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EDIT: Actually, I cannot leave it like that. You are telling me with a straight face that you think a movie like "Widow's men" or "Sister's love" is better than OLEKU? Please o, we gotta give honor where honor is due.
As I have said, I have not seen Oleku but I look forward to doing so.

I liked Widow's Men though... Like I said, I generally tend to feel not that enthusiastic about rural-set movies, but I think Widow's Men was good. I definitely prefer it to, say, The Narrow Path..
This is extremely interesting......I just remembered that it was Mr TS' constant mention of W.M as one of the flicks he liked, that prompted me to watch it. And stumbling on this post again is making me want to laugh so hard!

W.M is better than The N.P? :eek: Ah! I get it now....And so I can conclusively say this: it is all a matter of TASTE! Finito!
 
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