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Need for more polished actors

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We could do with better acting and stage schools so we can churn out better actors. Way too much emotion and drama and superflous gimmicks. We need actors who can speak fluently act properly without shouting so much. Easy on the makeup ladies!!Whoever makes thes actors up needs a makeover themselves.

Is there an Acting Commission or Board in Nigeria? if so, who is responsible for auditioning these bad actors? Acting is about coming into your own, having character and persona which inturn captures the audience. All of these things are lacking with most Nigerian actors. They need to be educated!

:mad:
 

vince

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Originally posted by gorgeous70
We could do with better acting and stage schools so we can churn out better actors. Way too much emotion and drama and superflous gimmicks. We need actors who can speak fluently act properly without shouting so much. Easy on the makeup ladies!!Whoever makes thes actors up needs a makeover themselves.

Is there an Acting Commission or Board in Nigeria? if so, who is responsible for auditioning these bad actors? Acting is about coming into your own, having character and persona which inturn captures the audience. All of these things are lacking with most Nigerian actors. They need to be educated!

:mad:
The industry is growing.The stakeholders know about most of these shortcomings and they will be put right in the future hopefully. More money flowing in will help speed up things in all those areas.:)
 
#3
Thanks Vince

Thanks Vince! but it seems to be taking such a long time for quality talent to come out of Nigeria. I've watched other african talent and can say that it puts us to shame. There's less pretense and more focus on what they are about.

Nigerians are generally drama queens, they should display that in their acting instead of showing us a cheap imitation of what they are about!

We hope for better things to come!:eyes
 

vince

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#4
Better things will come as more learned professionals who know a lot more about how things should be move in.
The graph indicator is pointing northwards,believe me!:D
We gotta have patience,no other country in africa has a movie industry anywhere as huge as ours,so it will take time to organize things,but it is being done.;)
 

vince

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Re: Thanks Vince, but like I said

Originally posted by gorgeous70
we live in hope....Nigerian movies make me laugh though....certainly worth a giggle and a half!

:cool:
Even the ones that are not supposed to be comedies?:D
 
#7
Actor's Getting Training May Bring up Quaility

That's why I think the plan I was talking of earlier would be good. Each production company could sign actors with them. They would have to save some money that would go into further acting training in or out of Africa. This would go for other crew as well, but since this discussion is about acting that would be the focus. It would bring more quality acting to the movies. Also directors would as well have to have training not only in directing, but in directing actors, because if the actor's suck it's really the director's fault.

There are so many acting schools, workshops, seminars, classes etc. out there that I think this idea could help a lot. Plus it would teach actors how to audition and also directors what actors should and shouldn't do at an audition.

Another thing is the casting process is hectic and in a growing industry crazy. You will cast those who can and cannot act, but think about it. After you have cast those who can't act and those who can you know have contacts and now know which actors to get on your next projects who are good. You would still have to cast the same way in each movie, but you learn more of who are the good and bad actors by doing this. The bad actors don't really have to be excluded. All actors would have be required to get training, but maybe the bad ones have to do a lot more or something.

Oh and the actors guilds here have acting seminars, courses they require their actors to have training. Maybe that's something for the Nigerian, Ghanian, etc. Actor's Guilds to do.
 
#8
Indeed

Thanks Amanda,

Very well put I must add . Sensible points and informative too. All these ideas are great put in all honesty is Nigeria ready to spend and invest in that market? They often tend to cut corners, It's debatable as to whether they really want to capture a wider (global) audience or perhaps they prefer to stay put and cater for the small percentage of people who watch their films.

The key here is being open to new ideas and working alongside people who are willing to teach them. Being a proud country hasn't always served us well.

Now Vince,
Did I mention that my laughter had a hint of cynicism and with "I can't believe these people are seriously acting" expression. Have u also noticed that the food never gets eaten on the table and they only show the living room and bedroom...other parts of the house are a bit of a challenge I suppose

:devil
 

vince

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Re: Indeed

Originally posted by gorgeous70
Thanks Amanda,

Very well put I must add . Sensible points and informative too. All these ideas are great put in all honesty is Nigeria ready to spend and invest in that market? They often tend to cut corners, It's debatable as to whether they really want to capture a wider (global) audience or perhaps they prefer to stay put and cater for the small percentage of people who watch their films.

The key here is being open to new ideas and working alongside people who are willing to teach them. Being a proud country hasn't always served us well.

Now Vince,
Did I mention that my laughter had a hint of cynicism and with "I can't believe these people are seriously acting" expression. Have u also noticed that the food never gets eaten on the table and they only show the living room and bedroom...other parts of the house are a bit of a challenge I suppose

:devil
My sista,i don noticed all ya observations many times over sef.Na money dey cause am.You know with what speed this people shoot these videos.They don't have the time (or maybe the creativity)to do detailed works.That is why naija churn out hudreds of video movies per annum.
Detailed movies take time and money.
 

Sola

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You have to understand. Only living rooms and bedrooms have enough space to fit a production crew during shooting. The bathroom, kitchen, etc., in Nigeria, are usually pretty small unless you're shooting in the house of one of the money-miss-roads. And they don't get them that easily.

Time and resources are usually not enough to build these sets from scratch, but when they are most critical to a story, it is built and set up properly.

Believe me, every complaint you have, there is often a reason why it ls like that. But it is good you bring this up because it tells our filmmakers that the audience has become more discerning and they need to sit up and go the extra mile.
 

vince

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#11
STUDIOS!!That is what they need.Somebody should get a hold of an old big warehouse or something and turn it into a studio where these filmmakers can really work without limitations imposed on them by shooting in private homes.
That should be the next step now.
Shooting crews need space to set up the equipments and work.The DP and the camera operator need room to move the camera to get the best shots and angles.
Actually i have an idea which might serve as a temporary alternative to building a big studio.I will open a special thread for it asap!:)
 
#12
very well

Vince,
Why don't they just churn out a few quality films rather than a bunch of headless ones. Surely quality is the key here not quantity...
I also wait in anticipation for this idea of yours....till then :D


Sola,
Very well explained, with thanks. Was not aware of the filming constraints faced by our people. Great job in clarifying this, well done!
:)

Lady-Vexy:confused:
Couldn't understand a word you said. I'm not very good on the broken-English front....main thing is YOU undertstood it1:cool:
 

vince

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#13
@Gorgeous,it takes money,time,talent,dedication and uncompromising desire for quality to produce such movies.There are few people who have all these attributes and they are showing in their movies.There will be more of those as time goes on.
As for my idea,i posted it on scriptwriters' forum.:)
 

kcbabe64

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Originally posted by vince
@Gorgeous,it takes money,time,talent,dedication and uncompromising desire for quality to produce such movies.There are few people who have all these attributes and they are showing in their movies.There will be more of those as time goes on.
As for my idea,i posted it on scriptwriters' forum.:)
i agree wid Gorgeous, if they can leave all dem crap films dey r bringin out n focus on dem good ones, dey will surely produce a good quality movies.
the money used for makin those crap films, they sud use it n make some quality film.
 

vince

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Originally posted by kcbabe64
i agree wid Gorgeous, if they can leave all dem crap films dey r bringin out n focus on dem good ones, dey will surely produce a good quality movies.
the money used for makin those crap films, they sud use it n make some quality film.
We're all essentially saying the same thing.Over 1000 video movies are produced in nigeria annually and these flicks are spread among not so many filmmakers.What that translate into is that these directors make as many as 20-40 movies a yeah!!:eek: I mean,that is crazy!How can one expect quality flicks from such filmmakers.That quality don't go with quantity is a no brainer.I personally would like that number of films produced annually to be cut to about half.
 

Kemmy

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Ist of all, i feel that there are a lot of pple in the acting business who just simply cannot act. Its not their thing. Others who have an inclination whether innate or learned 2 acting simply have 2 learn 2 develop themselves. Pple just dont come perfect in acting,. However, they learn and grow all the time. We have actors and actresses that have reached a stage where u could say, she/ he is a good actress/actor. Eg, Liz benson, Ramsey Nuah, Pat attah, Stella Damasus, Genevieve nnaji, Tony Umez, Hilda Dokubo and numerous others.

One thing i noticed is that a lot of Nigerian actors/actresses dont know how 2 get into the xters they are playing. some of em are so artificial , u could almost cry watching them. PPle need 2 learn that. Develop ur xter and make it u. That way u would be natural and authentic on Tv.

So far some scripts have been good. Not just the same ole same ole that u could always tell what would happen next. Producers can also get more creative in time.

I'm not writing this 2 put down our Movie industry, far from it. This is intended 4 all of those (including my self) who would love 2 do stuff in the movie industry later whether Production, script writing and acting 2 keep in mind while developing.I think we're already doing a GREAT JOB. Hey we're 43, i dont knowif the movies US or other ancient developed countries turned out when they were 43 were as good...;)

keep it up N Movie Industries!:cool: :cool: :cool:
 

vince

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Originally posted by Kemmy
Ist of all, i feel that there are a lot of pple in the acting business who just simply cannot act. Its not their thing. Others who have an inclination whether innate or learned 2 acting simply have 2 learn 2 develop themselves. Pple just dont come perfect in acting,. However, they learn and grow all the time. We have actors and actresses that have reached a stage where u could say, she/ he is a good actress/actor. Eg, Liz benson, Ramsey Nuah, Pat attah, Stella Damasus, Genevieve nnaji, Tony Umez, Hilda Dokubo and numerous others.

One thing i noticed is that a lot of Nigerian actors/actresses dont know how 2 get into the xters they are playing. some of em are so artificial , u could almost cry watching them. PPle need 2 learn that. Develop ur xter and make it u. That way u would be natural and authentic on Tv.

So far some scripts have been good. Not just the same ole same ole that u could always tell what would happen next. Producers can also get more creative in time.

I'm not writing this 2 put down our Movie industry, far from it. This is intended 4 all of those (including my self) who would love 2 do stuff in the movie industry later whether Production, script writing and acting 2 keep in mind while developing.I think we're already doing a GREAT JOB. Hey we're 43, i dont knowif the movies US or other ancient developed countries turned out when they were 43 were as good...;)

keep it up N Movie Industries!:cool: :cool: :cool:
Well said,Kemmy!:) You got my back.
 

khamileon

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Re: very well

Originally posted by gorgeous70
Vince,
Why don't they just churn out a few quality films rather than a bunch of headless ones. Surely quality is the key here not quantity...
I also wait in anticipation for this idea of yours....till then :D


Sola,
Very well explained, with thanks. Was not aware of the filming constraints faced by our people. Great job in clarifying this, well done!
:)


HAPPY VINCE AND SOLA WERE ABLE TO SHARE SOME LIGHT ON UR SUBJECT. I AM WITH THE FILM PEOPLE AS I SPEAK..IF U KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO MAKE A MOVIE..... AGAIN MOST OF THESE PEOPLE (PRODUCERS/DIRECTORS) SEE THIS AS BUSINESS, THEY HAVE TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE SO THEY HAVE TO MANAGE WHATEVER LITTLE THEY HAVE TO PUT A MOVIE OUT, THEN JUMP TO THE NEXT.. CHICO EJIRO WILL KNOCK 4 MOVIES IN ONE MONTH..SINCE I AM HERE (BARELY TWO WEEKS) HE HAS ALREADY DON TWO.. BOTTOMLINE HE HAS TO FEED HIS FAMILY AT ALL COST..BUT WITH MORE INVESTMENTS THINGS CAN GET BETTER BECAUSE I KNOW AND CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE GOT THE TALENTS. ..THE MOVIE INDUSTRY IS ABOUT THE FASTEST GROWING INDUSTRY IN NAIJA, PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE OF MILLIONS..
 

kcbabe64

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khamileon, how u doin, n how naija dey. no forget 2 bring film for me oh. i wanna watch dapo junior 2
how jim iyke, i hear say he be big boy now, my people down dr saw him wid his ride. damn dat guy is enjoyin oh.
abeg wetin be ur mail addy, got something 2 tell ya, but cnt say it here. enjoy sunshine well oh, n no eat all d eba finish.
how zeb, my regards 2 him
hope 2 hear from u soon
 
#20
A light at the end of some tunnel, whichever one!

Kemmy
My sentiments exactly. At least am not the only one who believes that these actors need to improve their acting skills as well as the producers who churn these films out at 20 films a day.

to Everyone else...

Realising this, I understand that one has to feed and support ones family. All I am saying is that sometimes the time taken to produce 500 films per month in such haste could be reduced to 4 quality films which would capture a global audience and inturn make these actors and producers a lot more money, it would also bring on recognition.

The nature of the Nigerian is "let's build Rome in one day", instead of taking the time and effort to get things done properly.

I'm not an avid watcher of Nigerian films but when I get the chance to see these films, I'm hoping to see an improvement or development , rather it ends up being predicatble...an element of surprise would be great....how about an edge!!!

Well like I keep saying, we live in hope, that's all we can do!
 
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