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Nollywood Marketers blast Genevieve nnaji

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Dsampler

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So, make genny return back down to division 3, abi? Even if there is no money there at the moment, it is still an evolution. A step forward. Things may not take shape as quickly as you might want, but proper financial rewards will come when the dusts have properly settled, because it is the next level up. No point moving back down again. Idumota!Iweka road have done their rounds and their time has passed because they refused to evolve with time.Cinema is the future, no matter what.
Thnak you ooooo, Vince.!!! Thank you, thank you, and thank you again for these ya great, great insights about Genny vs The Marketers.

I wonder why Sola no gree put Thank you option for this Thread sef.

Oga Sola!!!!!!!!!!!! Wey you ooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! abeg come put Thank you option for this thread make I thank Vince again.
 

rudeboy

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So, make genny return back down to division 3, abi? Even if there is no money there at the moment, it is still an evolution. A step forward. Things may not take shape as quickly as you might want, but proper financial rewards will come when the dusts have properly settled, because it is the next level up. No point moving back down again. Idumota!Iweka road have done their rounds and their time has passed because they refused to evolve with time.Cinema is the future, no matter what.
Pls read my post well, I am not talking about Genny and where she should return. I just found out that the whole cinema thing in that country is exactly opposite what it should be. Nor what optimists think. Ok, you and dsampler, carry go, abeg.
 

kolinzo

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Pls read my post well, I am not talking about Genny and where she should return. I just found out that the whole cinema thing in that country is exactly opposite what it should be. Nor what optimists think. Ok, you and dsampler, carry go, abeg.
I get what you are saying, but then are you telling us that movies that were said to make millions of Naira didn't actually make it? I mean like that Ije, Figurine etc? The reason I'm asking this is because often time we've read on this board and other sources that Idumota marketers barely sell 50,000 copies on a good day, therefore if Ije could make fourty something million naira before going on VCD is that better than Idumota?
 

kolinzo

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Genny time don pass -na me talk am!lol. For real though, Genny should appear in movies o. Tonto, Mercy, Nse, Yvonne Okoro, Yvonne Nelson etc are not slowing down. I mean these girls are pretty and can act their butts off. I find myself falling out of love with Genny because she hasn't done anything worth remembering in Nollywood since lordknowswhen. She should come back and show us she still got it!

Genny time don pass? ha!ha! ha hahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....You make me laugh no be small. So, you wan Genny to go back to those days of do movie for me today, come get ya money tomorrow?....like dem do Ashley Nnwosu wey be say, the day the man died, dem still owe am money from here to Jericho?

Ha!ha!hahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't stop laughing o. Thanks to you. You must be a comedian in your spare time, because you funny no be small.
............ROTFLMAOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:roll:roll:roll:roll:roll
 

Dsampler

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Genny time don pass -na me talk am!lol. For real though, Genny should appear in movies o. Tonto, Mercy, Nse, Yvonne Okoro, Yvonne Nelson etc are not slowing down. I mean these girls are pretty and can act their butts off. I find myself falling out of love with Genny because she hasn't done anything worth remembering in Nollywood since lordknowswhen. She should come back and show us she still got it!
This must be your way of saying you missed Genny too,...like the rest of us. Be patient, kolinzo. Big surprises dey come.
 

vince

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Thank you o, kolinzo. 21st century and these guys are still messing about with VCDs plus their 7 day kpakpakpa nonsense. Is that what Genny supposed to come back to?And their now primitive style operation is supposed to be the defacto standard for financial success? Why don't the Idumota/Alaba/Iweka boys join the cinema revolution to help make it a smoother and faster transition? Just a thought.
20 odd years in the home videomaking business and they are still in the same spot. No advancement, no evolution to higher levels, nothing.
I get what you are saying, but then are you telling us that movies that were said to make millions of Naira didn't actually make it? I mean like that Ije, Figurine etc? The reason I'm asking this is because often time we've read on this board and other sources that Idumota marketers barely sell 50,000 copies on a good day, therefore if Ije could make fourty something million naira before going on VCD is that better than Idumota?
 

vince

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Well, this thread is about Genny and so is your post, so i naturally made the link. The cinema thing may not be financially as rewarding yet, but it will as time goes on. God forbid nollywood should be reverting back to the primitive straight-to-VCDs days again.
Pls read my post well, I am not talking about Genny and where she should return. I just found out that the whole cinema thing in that country is exactly opposite what it should be. Nor what optimists think. Ok, you and dsampler, carry go, abeg.
 

vince

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Yes, her time don pass for appearing in small screen home video trash and rightly so. I personally would rather not see Genny and the other nollywood big stars wasting their time working at such lowly levels just so that they can be seen again. I and the vast majority of nollywood audience have seen more than enough of that to last us all a lifetime. It is time for a big step up in the game by everybody.
Genny time don pass -na me talk am!lol. For real though, Genny should appear in movies o. Tonto, Mercy, Nse, Yvonne Okoro, Yvonne Nelson etc are not slowing down. I mean these girls are pretty and can act their butts off. I find myself falling out of love with Genny because she hasn't done anything worth remembering in Nollywood since lordknowswhen. She should come back and show us she still got it!
 

rudeboy

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I get what you are saying, but then are you telling us that movies that were said to make millions of Naira didn't actually make it? I mean like that Ije, Figurine etc? The reason I'm asking this is because often time we've read on this board and other sources that Idumota marketers barely sell 50,000 copies on a good day, therefore if Ije could make fourty something million naira before going on VCD is that better than Idumota?
I don't know about the millions of Naira but I just realised the producer could be gravely disappointed after heavy subtractions here and there.
 

rudeboy

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Well, this thread is about Genny and so is your post, so i naturally made the link. The cinema thing may not be financially as rewarding yet, but it will as time goes on. God forbid nollywood should be reverting back to the primitive straight-to-VCDs days again.
Nobody is wishing nollywood revert to the primitive straight-to-VCDs days again. Sometimes we are too sentimental to face the reality. You are living in your comfort zone in Europe and I doubt if you have any idea why nollywood films are made in the first place. The marketers are traders who need to make money, that's all. Vince, you do not understand the kind of unnecessary hunger in that country. What everyone is looking for is where and how to feed themselves. Unlike here in the west where you may have access to grants or other forms of funding. You spent that much making the big film, publicity and so on. When the money comes you find out you have made a big glamourous statement apart from anything in your wallet. The traders study this and continue in their "stone age" productions where they now distribute straight to "oil". The consumers are there ready to pay between 200 and 400 Naira for parts 1, 2, 3 and 4. They made the film with less than 3 million Naira as compared to those who spent upto 30 million. They spend 200,000 to print posters while the other pays at least 3 million for publicity. By the end of the day, the trader is happy with his 500,000 profit while the other just made a big name. Don't get me wrong, I am not happy with this situation but that does not mean it is not the reality happening right now.
 

Dsampler

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Nobody is wishing nollywood revert to the primitive straight-to-VCDs days again. Sometimes we are too sentimental to face the reality. You are living in your comfort zone in Europe and I doubt if you have any idea why nollywood films are made in the first place. The marketers are traders who need to make money, that's all. Vince, you do not understand the kind of unnecessary hunger in that country. What everyone is looking for is where and how to feed themselves. Unlike here in the west where you may have access to grants or other forms of funding. You spent that much making the big film, publicity and so on. When the money comes you find out you have made a big glamourous statement apart from anything in your wallet. The traders study this and continue in their "stone age" productions where they now distribute straight to "oil". The consumers are there ready to pay between 200 and 400 Naira for parts 1, 2, 3 and 4. They made the film with less than 3 million Naira as compared to those who spent upto 30 million. They spend 200,000 to print posters while the other pays at least 3 million for publicity. By the end of the day, the trader is happy with his 500,000 profit while the other just made a big name. Don't get me wrong, I am not happy with this situation but that does not mean it is not the reality happening right now.
Don't you agree that sooner or later, if Nollywood want to be a multi-billion dollar/Naira industry like Hollywood, that the marketers and their "nickel & dime" business model would have to get out of the way eventually?

That's exactly what's going on now in Nollywood,...no matter how painful it is at present, change is always a good thing in the long run. Nobody said it was going to be an easy transition.
 

Dsampler

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The marketers said (front page ENCOMIUM MAG. April 06) You have allowed stardom to get into your head ------We made you and we can unmake you.-----We need one another but you need us more.----Until you show remorse and respect us --------etc etc. Folks are these marketers crazy or somethig ? they are about to selfdestroy . LETs pick on them one more time.( maybe they can see reason) By the way the FRONT PAGE PICTURE of Genevie shows her at her best.
Now that rudeboy and kolinzo's arguments has been brutally debunked, I dare repeat the question........

Many, many years has passed. Who is having the last laugh now?,..... Nnaji? or the Marketers who has returned to their daily agbero jobs with their tails between their legs?? Somebody please answer my question. Thank you in advance.
 

rudeboy

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Don't you agree that sooner or later, if Nollywood want to be a multi-billion dollar/Naira industry like Hollywood, that the marketers and their "nickel & dime" business model would have to get out of the way eventually?

That's exactly what's going on now in Nollywood,...no matter how painful it is at present, change is always a good thing in the long run. Nobody said it was going to be an easy transition.
Of course I agree with you but why do we always remove Nollywood from the entire economy? Tell me what sector has ever worked or promises to work in that nation? Stop getting carried away. We have no government that is why everyone is doing everything everyhow. You think without enabling environemnt enforced, producers would continue making films if the cinema houses are taking advantages of them? If they don't make money how would they make more films and make the changes we only pray they make?
 

ogonna

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LWKMD! You can keep conjuring all manner of sales figures out your butts in your diasporan fantasies. Nobody, I repeat nobody, is making more money from movie showings at Silverbird than movie marketers are making from VCD sales. As we say in naija, you guys are not 'on ground'. Come home and see the light. For now, let me break it down for you -

1. Genny has not made a hit movie in aeons.

2. She is now primarily a showbiz/media celebrity and not an actress anymore

3. the 'illiterate Ibo marketers' are still ruling Nollywood because y'all here are simply too lazy and incompetent to get of your asses and actually DO something besides yapping and whining on the internet.

Meanwhile, the 'illiterate Ibo marketers' soar to new heights:)

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Choke on that haters:)
 

rudeboy

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Now that rudeboy and kolinzo's arguments has been brutally debunked, I dare repeat the question........

Many, many years has passed. Who is having the last laugh now?,..... Nnaji? or the Marketers who has returned to their daily agbero jobs with their tails between their legs?? Somebody please answer my question. Thank you in advance.
You win! Good luck in all your ideal fantasies.
 
Now that rudeboy and kolinzo's arguments has been brutally debunked, I dare repeat the question........

Many, many years has passed. Who is having the last laugh now?,..... Nnaji? or the Marketers who has returned to their daily agbero jobs with their tails between their legs?? Somebody please answer my question. Thank you in advance.
lol your head is probably too far stuck in your you know where to be able to know the answer to that obvious question. I will help you out: If Genny is not making any more movies she is obviously not making that much money anymore.

It is simple economics my friend, when something is overpriced, it just stops selling.
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
LWKMD! You can keep conjuring all manner of sales figures out your butts in your diasporan fantasies. Nobody, I repeat nobody, is making more money from movie showings at Silverbird than movie marketers are making from VCD sales. As we say in naija, you guys are not 'on ground'. Come home and see the light. For now, let me break it down for you -

1. Genny has not made a hit movie in aeons.

2. She is now primarily a showbiz/media celebrity and not an actress anymore
lol your head is probably too far stuck in your you know where to be able to know the answer to that obvious question. I will help you out: If Genny is not making any more movies she is obviously not making that much money anymore.

It is simple economics my friend, when something is overpriced, it just stops selling.

Does her not making movies mean she is not making money? She has been endorsing products, right? Just like Ini edo, Stephanie and all the Glo Ambassador thingy.

Celebrities don't have to stick to their 'claim to fame'...in this case Genny don't have to be acting every and all movie to remain a money-earning actress. Think of Kim Kardashian. Her name would sell cow piss now, and we know she got absolutely NO talent! Even her voice is irritating!
#Am just saying.

Does it mean that when an actor stops acting all the time, they are broke?

The A-listers pick and select their movies [which is a good thing]. The hussling ones are appearing in all and every movie! Good for them. But soon, people go tire to see their faces too, and their price go hardly go up!
 

Dsampler

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lol your head is probably too far stuck in your you know where to be able to know the answer to that obvious question. I will help you out: If Genny is not making any more movies she is obviously not making that much money anymore.

It is simple economics my friend, when something is overpriced, it just stops selling.
.....eventhough I really don't have the time at this aprticular moment, I'm gonna find time to help you out on this issue of who's making money & who's not. I'm gonna do it with only one sentence,..then,..I'm gonna come bac later when Ireally have time. Here goes...

International super stars (of which Nnaji has now become one) usually makes more money being a Super Star celebrity, than they do from their actual chosen profession. e.g. Marilyn Monroe, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Clinton, Hilary Clinton, Michael Jordan etc.

I'll be back with more details to help you out later,.......meanwhile,.....suck on that.grinning:
 

kolinzo

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Yes, her time don pass for appearing in small screen home video trash and rightly so. I personally would rather not see Genny and the other nollywood big stars wasting their time working at such lowly levels just so that they can be seen again. I and the vast majority of nollywood audience have seen more than enough of that to last us all a lifetime. It is time for a big step up in the game by everybody.

Vince, you have to realize her staying absent is not doing heer any good. Eventually, Nollywood will go on big screen and what would Genny do then run back? I mean, right now people are crazy for the likes of Mercy, Ini, Tonto, Yvonne Nelson, Yvone Okoro etc and believe me when I say these girls can compete with Genny on any planet. E no go easy o if Genny stays away in the name of sanitizing Nollywood. What I think she should do is to work with good directors such as Izu, Frank Raja, etc so as to stay relevant. With that said, I still don't like the marketers sha!!
 

kolinzo

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@ Vince,
Let's be realistic here. How many places have cinema in Naija that will show a good quality movie? What is a good quality movie $100,000? $300,000? The truth is we don't have a friendly enviroment that can cater to cinema. Remember the Hubert Ogundess, Baba Salas, Afolayans?? They couldn't make profits when they did cinemas and time was better than it is today then. I'm not advocating for the continuation of straight-to-vcd but let's be realistic by looking at other factors that contribute to why cinema may not be viable at this time. Therefore, Genny will eventually return if these marketers don't do cinemas. Personally, I believe these marketers love money and if cinema is bringing money they wouldn'be be left behind. Or maybe they are just waiting for a leader before they eventually bombard it?
 
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