Nollywood Marketers blast Genevieve nnaji

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vince

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So she should take a step backwards, then? How many career persons take such a reverse step voluntarily? It is Genny's call, anyway. She should take whatever steps, in whatever direction she thinks is good enough for her.
Vince, you have to realize her staying absent is not doing heer any good. Eventually, Nollywood will go on big screen and what would Genny do then run back? I mean, right now people are crazy for the likes of Mercy, Ini, Tonto, Yvonne Nelson, Yvone Okoro etc and believe me when I say these girls can compete with Genny on any planet. E no go easy o if Genny stays away in the name of sanitizing Nollywood. What I think she should do is to work with good directors such as Izu, Frank Raja, etc so as to stay relevant. With that said, I still don't like the marketers sha!!
 

vince

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More cinema complexes will be built to provide more cinema screens. It may be slow process, but at least we have a process going to raise our industry's level where it is supposed to be. I am happy with that. Nollywood is now in a transitional period of moving back up to the cinema culture. Financial gains will come in due time. I am sure the true professionals will give the transitional period the time it needs to start yielding the fruits everybody wants.
I, personally, am grateful that we are even having the transition to begin with. The Nigerian Movie Industry's move towards the cinema culture is the reality of the times and it will not be stopped, hopefully. Onwards and upwards, i say. I am positive and hopeful. The Idumota/Alaba/Iweka straight to 320X240 resolution VCD is long long dead for me and many others, so the return back to it does not even warrant any amount of energy being wasted on discussing it. My view and reality.
@ Vince,
Let's be realistic here. How many places have cinema in Naija that will show a good quality movie? What is a good quality movie $100,000? $300,000? The truth is we don't have a friendly enviroment that can cater to cinema. Remember the Hubert Ogundess, Baba Salas, Afolayans?? They couldn't make profits when they did cinemas and time was better than it is today then. I'm not advocating for the continuation of straight-to-vcd but let's be realistic by looking at other factors that contribute to why cinema may not be viable at this time. Therefore, Genny will eventually return if these marketers don't do cinemas. Personally, I believe these marketers love money and if cinema is bringing money they wouldn'be be left behind. Or maybe they are just waiting for a leader before they eventually bombard it?
 

Dsampler

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Vince, you have to realize her staying absent is not doing heer any good. Eventually, Nollywood will go on big screen and what would Genny do then run back? I mean, right now people are crazy for the likes of Mercy, Ini, Tonto, Yvonne Nelson, Yvone Okoro etc and believe me when I say these girls can compete with Genny on any planet. E no go easy o if Genny stays away in the name of sanitizing Nollywood. What I think she should do is to work with good directors such as Izu, Frank Raja, etc so as to stay relevant. With that said, I still don't like the marketers sha!!
Kolinzo, you're talking as if all Genny has going for her (like everybody else in Nollywood) is the acting business. Why are you refusing to admit that the name "Genevieve Nnaji" alone is now an entity worldwide, a money making machine, a gold mine like you won't believe.

Bottom line: She does not need Nollywood anymore. She can stay away forever and still make obscene amount of money on a daily basis. Face the facts, kolinzo!!!!!!!!!


e.g., Marilyn Monroe's estate is still raking in millions of dollars every year, years after she's been long gone. You'll be surprised how many movies or how much money she actually made acting in movies during her entire movie career.

Wake up & smell the cappuccino, kolinzo!!!!! Genny has turned the corner on Nollywood's ass. Admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

barbarellanoir

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Vince, you have to realize her staying absent is not doing heer any good. Eventually, Nollywood will go on big screen and what would Genny do then run back? I mean, right now people are crazy for the likes of Mercy, Ini, Tonto, Yvonne Nelson, Yvone Okoro etc and believe me when I say these girls can compete with Genny on any planet. E no go easy o if Genny stays away in the name of sanitizing Nollywood. What I think she should do is to work with good directors such as Izu, Frank Raja, etc so as to stay relevant. With that said, I still don't like the marketers sha!!
@bolded....off topic....Genny does NOT need to work with Frank Rajah...Please and thank you. I shudder to think about what he would do to her.
 

barbarellanoir

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LWKMD! You can keep conjuring all manner of sales figures out your butts in your diasporan fantasies. Nobody, I repeat nobody, is making more money from movie showings at Silverbird than movie marketers are making from VCD sales. As we say in naija, you guys are not 'on ground'. Come home and see the light. For now, let me break it down for you -

1. Genny has not made a hit movie in aeons.

2. She is now primarily a showbiz/media celebrity and not an actress anymore

3. the 'illiterate Ibo marketers' are still ruling Nollywood because y'all here are simply too lazy and incompetent to get of your asses and actually DO something besides yapping and whining on the internet.

Meanwhile, the 'illiterate Ibo marketers' soar to new heights:)

M-Net, Thema TV agree on Nollywood content deal | News | Rapid TV News

M-Net partners with Thema TV

Choke on that haters:)

How do you feel about the Nollywoodlove channel on youtube?
 

Dsampler

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So,...now that ogonna's arguments has been totally debunked and smashed into a million pieces never to be resurrected again, I dare repeat the question again........

Many, many years has passed. Who is having the last laugh now?,..... Nnaji? or the Marketers who has returned to their daily agbero jobs with their tails between their legs?? Somebody please answer my question. Thank you in advance.
 

barbarellanoir

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So,...now that ogonna's arguments has been totally debunked and smashed into a million pieces never to be resurrected again, I dare repeat the question again........

Many, many years has passed. Who is having the last laugh now?,..... Nnaji? or the Marketers who has returned to their daily agbero jobs with their tails between their legs?? Somebody please answer my question. Thank you in advance.
I would never debunk the opinion of someone in the trenches.
 

kolinzo

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More cinema complexes will be built to provide more cinema screens. It may be slow process, but at least we have a process going to raise our industry's level where it is supposed to be. I am happy with that. Nollywood is now in a transitional period of moving back up to the cinema culture. Financial gains will come in due time. I am sure the true professionals will give the transitional period the time it needs to start yielding the fruits everybody wants.
I, personally, am grateful that we are even having the transition to begin with. The Nigerian Movie Industry's move towards the cinema culture is the reality of the times and it will not be stopped, hopefully. Onwards and upwards, i say. I am positive and hopeful. The Idumota/Alaba/Iweka straight to 320X240 resolution VCD is long long dead for me and many others, so the return back to it does not even warrant any amount of energy being wasted on discussing it. My view and reality.
To me, this cinema thing may not work if these people are not good at directing the actors. So, I think that's the most important part that Nollywood needs to focus on. I mean, a movie does not have to make it to theatre before one can call it a good movie. True? From the look of things, Nollywood needs more than cinema to make it to the next level. With the kpakpakpa approach by our marketers and producers, directors, cinema will not save Nollywood.
 

kolinzo

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@bolded....off topic....Genny does NOT need to work with Frank Rajah...Please and thank you. I shudder to think about what he would do to her.
Heheheh...you guys just don't like the guy who has been producing nothing but blockbuster movies! But I'm very confident Genny will do well with him, afterall Genny has worked with less talented directors.
 

barbarellanoir

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Heheheh...you guys just don't like the guy who has been producing nothing but blockbuster movies! But I'm very confident Genny will do well with him, afterall Genny has worked with less talented directors.
It's not a case of "not liking the guy"...I see what he does with great actors (insert Majid), and I shudder. He needs to grow as a scriptwriter. All of the bootleg shakespearanrajaesque dialect.. has got to go....and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I was excited at the ambition of "Crime to Christ", but after that, some major hand falling has taken place.
 

kolinzo

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Kolinzo, you're talking as if all Genny has going for her (like everybody else in Nollywood) is the acting business. Why are you refusing to admit that the name "Genevieve Nnaji" alone is now an entity worldwide, a money making machine, a gold mine like you won't believe.

Bottom line: She does not need Nollywood anymore. She can stay away forever and still make obscene amount of money on a daily basis. Face the facts, kolinzo!!!!!!!!!


e.g., Marilyn Monroe's estate is still raking in millions of dollars every year, years after she's been long gone. You'll be surprised how many movies or how much money she actually made acting in movies during her entire movie career.

Wake up & smell the cappuccino, kolinzo!!!!! Genny has turned the corner on Nollywood's ass. Admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DS, I'm a fan of hers, and I'm not saying she does not have anything going on for her. But the reality movie making is still her primary source of bread and butter. I wonder what she will be doing if she ever stops making movies! Non-movie related business? Genevieve is known around the world but so are the likes of Omotola, Mercy Johnson, and a bunch of Ghanaian actors -in fact they were invited to the cannes film festival not too long ago.

And why are you comparing Genny to Marilyn Monroe? It doesn't add up bro. America loves there celebrities but Naija na different kind of love.

As for Genny turning corner on Nollywood, I doubt that is the case, but I wish her nothing but the best. The yeye marketers are still breathing you know?
 

Dsampler

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DS, I'm a fan of hers, and I'm not saying she does not have anything going on for her. But the reality movie making is still her primary source of bread and butter. I wonder what she will be doing if she ever stops making movies! Non-movie related business? Genevieve is known around the world but so are the likes of Omotola, Mercy Johnson, and a bunch of Ghanaian actors -in fact they were invited to the cannes film festival not too long ago.

And why are you comparing Genny to Marilyn Monroe? It doesn't add up bro. America loves there celebrities but Naija na different kind of love.

As for Genny turning corner on Nollywood, I doubt that is the case, but I wish her nothing but the best. The yeye marketers are still breathing you know?
At least we agree on one thing,............that the marketers are yeye people.grinning:
 

Dsampler

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I would never debunk the opinion of someone in the trenches.
Trenches or no trenches. All dat na long talk. The fact remains that when Nnaji says "jump", any Nollywood producer or director or marketer wey no ask "how high do you want me to jump?", that producer or director or marketer no go chop.
 

vince

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Yeah, but we can't say we have a movie industry if we don't produce movies for cinema viewing, kolinzo? Producing home videos straight to VCD does a movie industry not make. If nollywood is to be compared to Hollywood, Bollywood and other top movie industries across the globe, it MUST produce movies for the big screen and enmasse. There is no other way.
As for direction, i don't even think that as an issue. Proper directors are a given in any movie industry.
To me, this cinema thing may not work if these people are not good at directing the actors. So, I think that's the most important part that Nollywood needs to focus on. I mean, a movie does not have to make it to theatre before one can call it a good movie. True? From the look of things, Nollywood needs more than cinema to make it to the next level. With the kpakpakpa approach by our marketers and producers, directors, cinema will not save Nollywood.
 

Dsampler

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Yeah, but we can't say we have a movie industry if we don't produce movies for cinema viewing, kolinzo? Producing home videos straight to VCD does a movie industry not make. If nollywood is to be compared to Hollywood, Bollywood and other top movie industries across the globe, it MUST produce movies for the big screen and enmasse. There is no other way.
As for direction, i don't even think that as an issue. Proper directors are a given in any movie industry.
Vince, I like as you dey debunk all these unbelievable reasons some people are coming up with as to why it is o.k. for Nollywood to continue to remain in a "micky mouse" status in the movie making world. My motto is "Do it right, or get the hell outta there". Somebody once told me that Denzel and Spike Lee thought Nollywood is one big joke, that's why they're staying the f4k away. How's that for a reputation.
 

rudeboy

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I just don't understand why you and Vince refuse to be realistic and continue in one way arguement.

Vince, I like as you dey debunk all these unbelievable reasons some people are coming up with as to why it is o.k. for Nollywood to continue to remain in a "micky mouse" status in the movie making world.
Nobody wishes Nollywood "to continue to remain in a "micky mouse" status in the movie making world". It's a shame you reason that way.

My motto is "Do it right, or get the hell outta there".
Your motto is a great one but it is too dreamy! You cannever "do it right" the way your country is run. No enabling environment, no regulations, no protection of property, no clear structure, nothing! But it is always easier and cooler to keep dreaming and blame every other person and not trying to see the root cause of all the problems in that part of the world. I dare you and Vince make that cinema movie and aim Nigeria market. Go get the first hand taste, and then come back here and tell your motivation level.
 

barbarellanoir

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LWKMD! You can keep conjuring all manner of sales figures out your butts in your diasporan fantasies. Nobody, I repeat nobody, is making more money from movie showings at Silverbird than movie marketers are making from VCD sales. As we say in naija, you guys are not 'on ground'. Come home and see the light. For now, let me break it down for you -

1. Genny has not made a hit movie in aeons.

2. She is now primarily a showbiz/media celebrity and not an actress anymore
3. the 'illiterate Ibo marketers' are still ruling Nollywood because y'all here are simply too lazy and incompetent to get of your asses and actually DO something besides yapping and whining on the internet.

Meanwhile, the 'illiterate Ibo marketers' soar to new heights:)

M-Net, Thema TV agree on Nollywood content deal | News | Rapid TV News

M-Net partners with Thema TV

Choke on that haters:)

@bolded...I hope that doesn't become true. I like to see star power at events,( and when I see pics of her at events, I'm not wondering why she's there, unlike some folk I feel would climb through an AC vent, just to be seen/photographed at an event), but I also would like to see her back in movies.
 
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