Obi Emelonye and CNN craze

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Angela81

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URU EKE, the gorgeous Nollywood actress gets the exclusive CNN exposure that only featuring in an Obi Emelonye movie can provide. First it was Genevieve Nnaji (The Mirror Boy), then Omotola Jalade Ekeinde (Last Flight to Abuja) and now Uru ...
Eke and of course others like Anthony Monjaro. Who next will get the CNN appeal when they feature in Obi's next movie???
I saw this post on screen nations facebook wall and I shouted! wetin sef!! What is it with CNN and Nollywood stars or filmmakers thinking getting on CNN is an achievement? Mirror Boy was on CNN a lot. not only was it a crappy movie, it di dnot make it to any name worthy film festival. where did it end up? DSTV. Anchor baby was not on CNN but its on Itunes and is being actively distributed. Ties That Bind (bad example) was not on CNN but has been picked up by Image Entertainment/Lionsgate.
they are friends with the CNN correspondent, he gives them airtime. but is the film good enough to take it the next step? Its as if all the filmmakers and actors care about is the publicity. not the content. so you get the exposure, is the film good enough to get mainstream distribution? I don't know how these people get financing, but they keep getting money, making subpar movies and drowning the movie in excessive hype. its very narrow minded in my opinion.
 

Angela81

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We have heard. Image Entertainment is distributing Ties that Bind. Your PR job is done. Ese o.
my dia, that one na world knowledge. its on imdb for the world to see. it does not need my pr. why did you only see Ties That Bind, what about Anchor baby? its on Itunes. bia, thank me for that pr too or i go vex u.
 

Sola

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I saw this post on screen nations facebook wall and I shouted! wetin sef!! What is it with CNN and Nollywood stars or filmmakers thinking getting on CNN is an achievement?
Well, it MAY not be big deal to us out here in the est, but it is big deal to folks living in Nigeria and I totally get it. In fact, It is big deal to me here o and I have been here since forever. I don't think we should take their achievement (and that's what it is) away from them o, even if it springs from their connections. Don't we all exploit our connections when necessary?
 

Angela81

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Well, it MAY not be big deal to us out here in the est, but it is big deal to folks living in Nigeria and I totally get it. In fact, It is big deal to me here o and I have been here since forever. I don't think we should take their achievement (and that's what it is) away from them o, even if it springs from their connections. Don't we all exploit our connections when necessary?
we do exploit connections. but what am saying is that, that should not be the focus. we glory in vanities and they bring di carprio to play african. let us move away from the vanities and pursue more important things like making great films that will walk many miles.
 
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For me, the much talked about MOPICON is gradually but steadily replicating the Freedom of Information (FoI) bill in terms of checkered historical antecedents.
 
#7
ANGELA, stop being jealous appreciate talent and creativity, you blind your self over reality and comment bs, the guys is the first nigeria film maker to understand the power of marketing, two his creative and think outside box, another reason what the person who made the post said is true, who else promote their actors and talent like him,

he used Genevieve in the mirror boy she got noticed but foreign audience people not used to nigeria stories,she got verified on twitter.he used omotola she got verified on twitter.
good pr, mind you no one can buy cnn, is not nigeria media is time Warner company.

his just lucky and with Gods grace.

the anchor baby good movie too , they both helping nigeria films.

mr obi has four feature credit in british cinemas and they all done pretty well/okay


no badbelle the guy jare.. fire on obi i all imo/igbo people are proud of you
I saw this post on screen nations facebook wall and I shouted! wetin sef!! What is it with CNN and Nollywood stars or filmmakers thinking getting on CNN is an achievement? Mirror Boy was on CNN a lot. not only was it a crappy movie, it di dnot make it to any name worthy film festival. where did it end up? DSTV. Anchor baby was not on CNN but its on Itunes and is being actively distributed. Ties That Bind (bad example) was not on CNN but has been picked up by Image Entertainment/Lionsgate.
they are friends with the CNN correspondent, he gives them airtime. but is the film good enough to take it the next step? Its as if all the filmmakers and actors care about is the publicity. not the content. so you get the exposure, is the film good enough to get mainstream distribution? I don't know how these people get financing, but they keep getting money, making subpar movies and drowning the movie in excessive hype. its very narrow minded in my opinion.
 

Angela81

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Stargist. This is the reason we will never grow. When someone gives you constructive critic, you call it jealousy. CNN inside Africa survives on stories. Just like any other media outlet. When you contact them with a story, they will look for its validity and cover it. Nollywood is interesting. its no surprise they covered it. thats what they are there for. they even covered weddings in naija.
What is twitter verification? People who have never even been big movies before are verified. Was Dencia in Obi Emelonyes movie before she got verified? or on CNN? Mirror boy was done and out way before Genny got verified.
The movie is on CNN, so was lancelot Imasuen and his embarrassing show of a so called two million dollar film. Where is mirror boy? On dstv. All the CNN should have gotten him into at least a well known and recognized film festival or big distribution. Or screening at cannes even. Why didn’t he take the big red carpet craze to cannes where industry players can come and watch? People are shooting their weddings on alexa camera that’s what we are praising? Or bad CG?
Who is jealous? Abeg. I am one of the people who believe we can do so much better if we stop focusing on the pr gimmicks. Obi is known for applying pr gimmicks. During mirror boy it was Genny, deniro, bond girl, during Last flight is was omotolas salary. Haba. Nne, I hia. I’m jealous. Let him bring the movies to E news, or showbiz tonight, Jay Leno, variety, Hollywood reporter and the likes lets see.
 

Dsampler

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Stargist. This is the reason we will never grow. When someone gives you constructive critic, you call it jealousy. CNN inside Africa survives on stories. Just like any other media outlet. When you contact them with a story, they will look for its validity and cover it. Nollywood is interesting. its no surprise they covered it. thats what they are there for. they even covered weddings in naija.
What is twitter verification? People who have never even been big movies before are verified. Was Dencia in Obi Emelonyes movie before she got verified? or on CNN? Mirror boy was done and out way before Genny got verified.
The movie is on CNN, so was lancelot Imasuen and his embarrassing show of a so called two million dollar film. Where is mirror boy? On dstv. All the CNN should have gotten him into at least a well known and recognized film festival or big distribution. Or screening at cannes even. Why didn’t he take the big red carpet craze to cannes where industry players can come and watch? People are shooting their weddings on alexa camera that’s what we are praising? Or bad CG?
Who is jealous? Abeg. I am one of the people who believe we can do so much better if we stop focusing on the pr gimmicks. Obi is known for applying pr gimmicks. During mirror boy it was Genny, deniro, bond girl, during Last flight is was omotolas salary. Haba. Nne, I hia. I’m jealous. Let him bring the movies to E news, or showbiz tonight, Jay Leno, variety, Hollywood reporter and the likes lets see.
Angie, baby, don't be so tough on my girl's producer na, ha ha! Take ya time o.
 
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Stargist. This is the reason we will never grow. When someone gives you constructive critic, you call it jealousy. CNN inside Africa survives on stories. Just like any other media outlet. When you contact them with a story, they will look for its validity and cover it. Nollywood is interesting. its no surprise they covered it. thats what they are there for. they even covered weddings in naija.
What is twitter verification? People who have never even been big movies before are verified. Was Dencia in Obi Emelonyes movie before she got verified? or on CNN? Mirror boy was done and out way before Genny got verified.
The movie is on CNN, so was lancelot Imasuen and his embarrassing show of a so called two million dollar film. Where is mirror boy? On dstv. All the CNN should have gotten him into at least a well known and recognized film festival or big distribution. Or screening at cannes even. Why didn’t he take the big red carpet craze to cannes where industry players can come and watch? People are shooting their weddings on alexa camera that’s what we are praising? Or bad CG?
Who is jealous? Abeg. I am one of the people who believe we can do so much better if we stop focusing on the pr gimmicks. Obi is known for applying pr gimmicks. During mirror boy it was Genny, deniro, bond girl, during Last flight is was omotolas salary. Haba. Nne, I hia. I’m jealous. Let him bring the movies to E news, or showbiz tonight, Jay Leno, variety, Hollywood reporter and the likes lets see.
that obi got lucky to have his films and actors showcased on cnn is as a result of the effort he put into marketing, even big bluckbuster hollywood movies do alot of that on so many media outlet, even the avengers marketing team went as far as using the super bowl to promote their movie, you brought up the point that they are friends with they cnn correspondent which is why they got those interviews, let me ask u a question, isn't it called having connection when one is opportuned to be friends with a cnn correspondent who can be able to get them an interview just like leila has connections to work with big budgets and resources which most filmmakers(especially in nigeria and ghana) don't have access to, do u think is every filmmaker in africa that can be opportuned to have such connections that leila has, so why is obi's connection now an issue,infact very few filmmakers in africa are opportuned to be trained in filmmaking, u don't have to be rude when u address people sometimes, i say this with respect to the manner u referred to lancelot's upcomming film "invasion 1897" which has a $2 million dollar budget, what do u really mean by his embarrssing show of a so called $2 million dollar film, lancelot never went to a film school(the same with izu ojukwu) but over the years he has learned the hard way by on the job training, he has experimented here and there, had time to do trial and error and eventually fount his footing in filmmaking, if u have watched some of my comments here about lancelot u will notice that i didn't think much of him as a director, but all that changed when i saw adesuwa which i think is his best movie yet untill he releases "invasion 1897" i believe this movie will be great and not accroding to u embarrassing, do u think that if lancelot previously before shooting his current movie had half as much resources leila had he wouldn't produce decent films. not every movie that is made has to go to a film festival and it isn't every filmmaker that wants every single one of their movies to go to a film festival, that obi was opportuned to have enough resources to do good marketing for his movie has now become pr gimmicks, if a filmmaker is opportuned to have resources to promote their movie, why won't they use it, is there a problem with that, movies like the dark knight rises and the avengers did that which is why they have grossed over a billion so far, all those deniro, bond girl, and omotola salary(actuall omotola's salary also came up when ties that bind was about to be released)stuff that were going on in media outlets has nothing to do with obi so why are u blaming him for that, now would it be fair if i blamed leila for the same thing u are blaming obi when she was battling the media for one thing or the other each time she is about to release a movie, the funny thing is that even if obi did get his movies to be showcased on E news, or showbiz tonight, Jay Leno, variety, Hollywood reporter etc u will still complain of the same thing, however, i am of the opinion that i don't need any western media to approve a movie from my country befor i believe it is good enough, by the way has any of leila's films gotten to any of those media outlets u just mentioned(i am not being scarcastic here, i just want to know becuase i have no idea).
 

barbarellanoir

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Stargist. This is the reason we will never grow. When someone gives you constructive critic, you call it jealousy. CNN inside Africa survives on stories. Just like any other media outlet. When you contact them with a story, they will look for its validity and cover it. Nollywood is interesting. its no surprise they covered it. thats what they are there for. they even covered weddings in naija.
What is twitter verification? People who have never even been big movies before are verified. Was Dencia in Obi Emelonyes movie before she got verified? or on CNN? Mirror boy was done and out way before Genny got verified.
The movie is on CNN, so was lancelot Imasuen and his embarrassing show of a so called two million dollar film. Where is mirror boy? On dstv. All the CNN should have gotten him into at least a well known and recognized film festival or big distribution. Or screening at cannes even. Why didn’t he take the big red carpet craze to cannes where industry players can come and watch? People are shooting their weddings on alexa camera that’s what we are praising? Or bad CG?
Who is jealous? Abeg. I am one of the people who believe we can do so much better if we stop focusing on the pr gimmicks. Obi is known for applying pr gimmicks. During mirror boy it was Genny, deniro, bond girl, during Last flight is was omotolas salary. Haba. Nne, I hia. I’m jealous. Let him bring the movies to E news, or showbiz tonight, Jay Leno, variety, Hollywood reporter and the likes lets see.
You are sooo guilty of this, Angela....no shade intended....Pot, meet kettle.
 

adjojata42

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angie, at times i cannot understand you. when you post something on Leila, you want all NRulers to sing her praises and expect good and positive responses from members, but when it is some other actress/film producer, etc, you give negative criticisms and you expect members to applaud you. to be honest, there is not much difference between you and DS when it comes to Leila and Genny. Be objective Angie. I know you can!!
 

dkelechi

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We have heard. Image Entertainment is distributing Ties that Bind. Your PR job is done. Ese o.
The rosy juicy part- that's what we are always going to hear- anything to brag with around the world wide web and of course its with hidden IDsssss. Meanwhile, there is more to it... (The important info are cut off) Who bears the cost for the P&A for the theatrical release? How much was it acquired for? The distributors approached and acquired the film based on its unmatchable preeminence? Or it was based on connection (or type) grounds? Okay, it's definitely on a limited release, no need to ask. And other questions? I bet I'll get personal attacks and insults as answers for. The catch phrase is mainstream distribution/image entertainment/lionsgate (HOLLYWOOD!). Now, let's discuss about Obi Emelonye's CNN bragging... Awesome!
 

Angela81

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Dkelechi, are you back? why not call the film owners or the buyers and ask them those question? i bet they bought it for enough money because the woman is making two more films as announced by variety and imdb. limited release kwa? even Pariah was limited release. indie films under 5 million are always limited release. it has release. distributors pay for their pr, whats your point? Go and look for more stars to bootlick for abeg. bia, were u on half of a yellow sun set cleaning Chiwetels boots? or he did not invite you? thats not what this thread is about.

i am not against Obi's achievement. when you go to sundance and watch nollywood documentary and Lancelot says he is 'popular' and makes fun of western filmmakers whose films get into festivals, it pathetic to say the list. he is content at being popular. he is not interested in making films that will do the festival route. that is all I am saying. that it looks like our stars only care about the popularity and exposure. they do not care what becomes of the movie. how will the world see a different Africa? when will our films go to oscars or be on netflix? Anchor Baby did not have any loud screenings. its on itunes wit over 20,000 fans on facebook. being on CNN inside africa is not an achievement in filmmaking industry. it should be a stepping stone.
 
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Dkelechi, are you back? why not call the film owners or the buyers and ask them those question? i bet they bought it for enough money because the woman is making two more films as announced by variety and imdb. limited release kwa? even Pariah was limited release. indie films under 5 million are always limited release. it has release. distributors pay for their pr, whats your point? Go and look for more stars to bootlick for abeg. bia, were u on half of a yellow sun set cleaning Chiwetels boots? or he did not invite you? thats not what this thread is about.

i am not against Obi's achievement. when you go to sundance and watch nollywood documentary and Lancelot says he is 'popular' and makes fun of western filmmakers whose films get into festivals, it pathetic to say the list. he is content at being popular. he is not interested in making films that will do the festival route. that is all I am saying. that it looks like our stars only care about the popularity and exposure. they do not care what becomes of the movie. how will the world see a different Africa? when will our films go to oscars or be on netflix? Anchor Baby did not have any loud screenings. its on itunes wit over 20,000 fans on facebook. being on CNN inside africa is not an achievement in filmmaking industry. it should be a stepping stone.
please lancelot never made fun of western filmmakers, he was only trying to explain that though nollywood films don't make it to film festivals but still the are popular among africans because it speaks directly to them, and yes he is very popular in nollywood, there is not doubt in that, but u are very wrong by asseting that he is content at that, he is much more ambitious than that which is why he is working on a much larger scale movie "invasion 1897", u just wait and see how successful that movie will turn out to be, i believe u called the movie an embarrassment right. i guess u would also say kunle afolayan is using pr gimmicks because he applies just as much marketing energy into his movies like obi does, let me ask u a question, do u think is very filmmaker in africa that can get the connection to get their movie distributed by image entertainment, if that was the case, then why isn't movies like the figurine, ije, phone swap etc being distributed by them or other top distribution companies, u see, this is all about connection and networking, so please don't roast obi for his luck, since u are asking why hasn't the cnn pr taken his movies to major film festivals, now i ask u, why hasn't those major film festivals that leila's movies have gotten into given her movies good enough pr to make them box office hits in theaters, by the way who told u that anchor baby didn't have loud screenings, anchor baby is one of the most publicised nigerian movies to date. now one thing that i will keep saying is the fact that i don't need a white man to tell me my material is good before i beleive it is good, we still have this colonial mentality which isn't going anywhere soon, why can't we see the amaa as our filmmakers top achievement, i know it isn't properly organised yet but was rome built in a day, it is just a matter of time before it sets off properly. when leila calls her movies hollywood movies and refers to herself as a hollywood filmmaker, isn't that pr gimmicks.
 

Angela81

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please lancelot never made fun of western filmmakers, he was only trying to explain that though nollywood films don't make it to film festivals but still the are popular among africans because it speaks directly to them, and yes he is very popular in nollywood, there is not doubt in that, but u are very wrong by asseting that he is content at that, he is much more ambitious than that which is why he is working on a much larger scale movie "invasion 1897", u just wait and see how successful that movie will turn out to be, i believe u called the movie an embarrassment right. i guess u would also say kunle afolayan is using pr gimmicks because he applies just as much marketing energy into his movies like obi does, let me ask u a question, do u think is very filmmaker in africa that can get the connection to get their movie distributed by image entertainment, if that was the case, then why isn't movies like the figurine, ije, phone swap etc being distributed by them or other top distribution companies, u see, this is all about connection and networking, so please don't roast obi for his luck, since u are asking why hasn't the cnn pr taken his movies to major film festivals, now i ask u, why hasn't those major film festivals that leila's movies have gotten into given her movies good enough pr to make them box office hits in theaters, by the way who told u that anchor baby didn't have loud screenings, anchor baby is one of the most publicised nigerian movies to date. now one thing that i will keep saying is the fact that i don't need a white man to tell me my material is good before i beleive it is good, we still have this colonial mentality which isn't going anywhere soon, why can't we see the amaa as our filmmakers top achievement, i know it isn't properly organised yet but was rome built in a day, it is just a matter of time before it sets off properly. when leila calls her movies hollywood movies and refers to herself as a hollywood filmmaker, isn't that pr gimmicks.



how many of ousmanne Sembene's movies have hit anything?. how many of tunde kelani's films have hit anything? it is not every movie that goes into the cinema. have you heard of television film? I have seen Leila Djansi's films and such film are not big screen films. they are art house films. no distributor is crazy enough to release a black, art film into a mainstream theater. it is now that people like Ava Duvernay are trying to get black art films into cinema. Kirnyawanda that even had big Pr and limited release made not close to 10,000. not because its bad, but because its not screen material. its too small for big screen. Movies that go into theaters traditionally are movies made for above 10million dollars. i am sure she is sitting on a pile of money. that is why she shot a big movie after sinking sands and another big one coming up. if her movies were not bringing her profit, how is she making more?

thank you for asking if I think its every movie that can receive distribution. are Jeta Amata's movies not distributed? what are Leila and jeta doing that is different? they are looking at the bigger picture. they are not concentrating their energies on popularity. they are making efforts and putting their money in the right place. how is it that Jeta and Leila are rolling with big shots? the producers of 300 and producers of mission impossible? they are attend the right festivals. they spend their pr money on networking.

are you about to tell me that, when someone says "they go to film festival, show their movie and people clap for them and no one knows them, but me come to nollywood, even the child on the street knows me'. what level of arrogance is that? in my mind I said none of your films can be clapped for by the standard world. Invasion 76. I saw the clips in the CNN piece. it was laughable. 2 million dollars? that is how Mr. Hollywood did tribe and said it was the oscar contender, 1 million dollars and ended up in jail.


i read on peacefm that Ties that Bind oversold out in Ghana and was screening on two screens for over a month. i'd call that local box office success. abi?
Can you confidently point out the article or sentence in which Ms. Djansi mentioned herself as hollywood filmmaker or where she said her movie is a hollywood movie?

I have said my own. I am not roasting Obi. I respect and admire his hustle. he knew he was going to use omotola, so she had to win screen nation award. screen nation is associate producer for mirror boy and mirror boy won screen nation. the man is strategic. its admirable. hollywood goes to the extent of marrying the stars to do pr. but please, eh, saying i want to do obi movie because i want to be on cnn, ah, that one fall my hand abeg. you folks think I am agaisnt Obi and CNN. what I am agaisnt is the mentality behind this post which started this thread: it is the same mentality in Lancelots statement above. take it or leave it.

URU EKE, the gorgeous Nollywood actress gets the exclusive CNN exposure that only featuring in an Obi Emelonye movie can provide. First it was Genevieve Nnaji (The Mirror Boy), then Omotola Jalade Ekeinde (Last Flight to Abuja) and now Uru ...
Eke and of course others like Anthony Monjaro. Who next will get the CNN appeal when they feature in Obi's next movie???
 
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how many of ousmanne Sembene's movies have hit anything?. how many of tunde kelani's films have hit anything? it is not every movie that goes into the cinema. have you heard of television film? I have seen Leila Djansi's films and such film are not big screen films. they are art house films. no distributor is crazy enough to release a black, art film into a mainstream theater. it is now that people like Ava Duvernay are trying to get black art films into cinema. Kirnyawanda that even had big Pr and limited release made not close to 10,000. not because its bad, but because its not screen material. its too small for big screen. Movies that go into theaters traditionally are movies made for above 10million dollars. i am sure she is sitting on a pile of money. that is why she shot a big movie after sinking sands and another big one coming up. if her movies were not bringing her profit, how is she making more?

thank you for asking if I think its every movie that can receive distribution. are Jeta Amata's movies not distributed? what are Leila and jeta doing that is different? they are looking at the bigger picture. they are not concentrating their energies on popularity. they are making efforts and putting their money in the right place. how is it that Jeta and Leila are rolling with big shots? the producers of 300 and producers of mission impossible? they are attend the right festivals. they spend their pr money on networking.

are you about to tell me that, when someone says "they go to film festival, show their movie and people clap for them and no one knows them, but me come to nollywood, even the child on the street knows me'. what level of arrogance is that? in my mind I said none of your films can be clapped for by the standard world. Invasion 76. I saw the clips in the CNN piece. it was laughable. 2 million dollars? that is how Mr. Hollywood did tribe and said it was the oscar contender, 1 million dollars and ended up in jail.


i read on peacefm that Ties that Bind oversold out in Ghana and was screening on two screens for over a month. i'd call that local box office success. abi?
Can you confidently point out the article or sentence in which Ms. Djansi mentioned herself as hollywood filmmaker or where she said her movie is a hollywood movie?

I have said my own. I am not roasting Obi. I respect and admire his hustle. he knew he was going to use omotola, so she had to win screen nation award. screen nation is associate producer for mirror boy and mirror boy won screen nation. the man is strategic. its admirable. hollywood goes to the extent of marrying the stars to do pr. but please, eh, saying i want to do obi movie because i want to be on cnn, ah, that one fall my hand abeg. you folks think I am agaisnt Obi and CNN. what I am agaisnt is the mentality behind this post which started this thread: it is the same mentality in Lancelots statement above. take it or leave it.

URU EKE, the gorgeous Nollywood actress gets the exclusive CNN exposure that only featuring in an Obi Emelonye movie can provide. First it was Genevieve Nnaji (The Mirror Boy), then Omotola Jalade Ekeinde (Last Flight to Abuja) and now Uru ...
Eke and of course others like Anthony Monjaro. Who next will get the CNN appeal when they feature in Obi's next movie???
thank very much for concurring with what i have already said which is that not every film is made to go the film festival channel and not every filmmaker wants every single one of their movies to go the film festival channel, so why then are u bugging obi when u know this fact, he probably doesn't have film festivals in his mind while making those films.i never doubted if she was making money, all i asked is that why isn't her movies making box office hits just as u are querring why obi's films aren't making it to major film festivals, and thanks for reiterating the fact that leila is siting on a pile of money and as such can shoot decent movies, all these comes not only by merit but by connections as well, if it were by merit then people like izu, lancelot etc would have gotten it a long time ago, not every filmmaker in africa(especially nigerian and ghana) have access to such money and resources, so why then are u crucifying lancelot, prior to now lancelot was hustling like other nollywood filmmaker to get at least 10 million naira to shoot a movie, when he eventually got about 18 million naira to shoot adesuwa, we all know what happened to him and john abua, what i am trying to say is that the same connections that obi has that u are complaing of, leila has it as well and not every filmmaker in africa is opportuned to have such connections, even kunle has to sweat to come up with his resources to make films.

now the answer to ur second paragraph question goes back again to connections and networking, it is as simple as that, there are so many fantastic movies out there that aren't fortunate enough to recieve distribution, not because the aren't good enought but because of connection, the only thing jeta and leila are doing differently is the fact that they have connections, i am glad u brought up the producers of 300 stuff, now i ask u, isn't that what obi and his marketing team are doing, since they are not opting for the film festival channel, the are puting their money in the right places by spending money on the right media outlet to promote their movies.

with respect to ur third paragraph, i believe he was talking about francophone movies, and what he said was the honest truth, so what about audiences in africa( i say africa since if i am right ur quote from lancelots speech was referring to francophone movies) who make fun of nollywood movies, don't u think that is arrogance too. u know what, when i saw the behind the scenes of adesuwa, i had my doubts, but like i said before, all that changed when i saw the actuall movie, since then, i have come to beleive that lancelot has talent, the only thing that was hindering him was not having the appropriate funds and resources. i will say it again, u wait and see how successful "invasion 1897" will be, by the way i never thought much of ifeanyi onyeabor, he makes his movies appear too fake.

i go to peacefm online almost everyday and nowhere did such an article u are asseting come up(though i stand to be corrected by u putting up the article so i can read). now i got u, in last comment u said something about obi using pr gimmicks such as denerio, bond girl, and omotola's salary to promote his movies, as aresult of this i put the leila and hollywood stuff to see ur response, now i ask u, can u confidently point out or show evidence tha infact it was obi using all those denerio, bond girl, and omotola's salary stuff to promote his movies, next time think before accusing people when u have no proof. i guess i can say that the fact ties that bind won ghana movie awards was becuase leila used fred amugi in her movie ties that bind, fred amugi is also a board member in ghana movie awards. i can also say that because fred amugi was to be featured in leila's that bind that is why sinking sands won best picture for the first edition of the award in 2010. obi has nothing to do with how the reporter decided to put his or her words and as such shouldn't be faulted for whatever or however the reporter put up there statement. lancelot was simpley telling it like its, take it to any where what he said was the simple truth, u tell me how that above post mentality relates to what lancelot said, lanclelot is one of the few filmmakers in africa that i can confidently say is not selling out, by that i mean they he directs and makes his films without imbibing western style into his movies(though u can accuse him of that when he was working with emem isong, but definitely not with his recent works), most african filmmakers now are making their films more western, u can never be more american that the americans, according to lancelots, he said he will still contiue to make films in the nigerian way but this time he will step it up by globalizing it, the way an african reacts isn' the way a western reacts, so why make our movies they way they do, actually the only person having mentality here is u by believing that for a movie to have arrived it has to be featured on E news, hollywood reporter etc wow still waiting for the white man's approval before u beleive ur work is good enough.
 

Henchey

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#18
What exactly is your problem?
You talk about 'constructive criticism' but make no mention of 'destructive' criticism.. What the hell do you think appearing on CNN is really about? If you watched the very latest ' CNN version of African Voices' featuring Obi Emelonye promoting 'Last Flight To Abuja', you would have noticed that he is doing an IMMENSE PR job for Nollywood. He was excellent and we should all be proud. You obviously fail to see the bigger picture. It is small mindedness that is preventing you from seeing anything more than self-promotion because that is how much your brain can fathom.
Its not by force you must run commentary. If you have no idea where Nollywood has come from you better ask somebody. It is people like you that want to run before you can walk - I guess that's why your mouth is in gear before your brain is switched on.
We are making films on micro-budgets and the world wants to know how.
If you have a problem with that, go make your own Avatar.
Nonsense.

I saw this post on screen nations facebook wall and I shouted! wetin sef!! What is it with CNN and Nollywood stars or filmmakers thinking getting on CNN is an achievement? Mirror Boy was on CNN a lot. not only was it a crappy movie, it di dnot make it to any name worthy film festival. where did it end up? DSTV. Anchor baby was not on CNN but its on Itunes and is being actively distributed. Ties That Bind (bad example) was not on CNN but has been picked up by Image Entertainment/Lionsgate.
they are friends with the CNN correspondent, he gives them airtime. but is the film good enough to take it the next step? Its as if all the filmmakers and actors care about is the publicity. not the content. so you get the exposure, is the film good enough to get mainstream distribution? I don't know how these people get financing, but they keep getting money, making subpar movies and drowning the movie in excessive hype. its very narrow minded in my opinion.
 

Angela81

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#19
thank very much for concurring with what i have already said which is that not every film is made to go the film festival channel and not every filmmaker wants every single one of their movies to go the film festival channel, so why then are u bugging obi when u know this fact, he probably doesn't have film festivals in his mind while making those films.i never doubted if she was making money, all i asked is that why isn't her movies making box office hits just as u are querring why obi's films aren't making it to major film festivals, and thanks for reiterating the fact that leila is siting on a pile of money and as such can shoot decent movies, all these comes not only by merit but by connections as well, if it were by merit then people like izu, lancelot etc would have gotten it a long time ago, not every filmmaker in africa(especially nigerian and ghana) have access to such money and resources, so why then are u crucifying lancelot, prior to now lancelot was hustling like other nollywood filmmaker to get at least 10 million naira to shoot a movie, when he eventually got about 18 million naira to shoot adesuwa, we all know what happened to him and john abua, what i am trying to say is that the same connections that obi has that u are complaing of, leila has it as well and not every filmmaker in africa is opportuned to have such connections, even kunle has to sweat to come up with his resources to make films.

now the answer to ur second paragraph question goes back again to connections and networking, it is as simple as that, there are so many fantastic movies out there that aren't fortunate enough to recieve distribution, not because the aren't good enought but because of connection, the only thing jeta and leila are doing differently is the fact that they have connections, i am glad u brought up the producers of 300 stuff, now i ask u, isn't that what obi and his marketing team are doing, since they are not opting for the film festival channel, the are puting their money in the right places by spending money on the right media outlet to promote their movies.

with respect to ur third paragraph, i believe he was talking about francophone movies, and what he said was the honest truth, so what about audiences in africa( i say africa since if i am right ur quote from lancelots speech was referring to francophone movies) who make fun of nollywood movies, don't u think that is arrogance too. u know what, when i saw the behind the scenes of adesuwa, i had my doubts, but like i said before, all that changed when i saw the actuall movie, since then, i have come to beleive that lancelot has talent, the only thing that was hindering him was not having the appropriate funds and resources. i will say it again, u wait and see how successful "invasion 1897" will be, by the way i never thought much of ifeanyi onyeabor, he makes his movies appear too fake.

i go to peacefm online almost everyday and nowhere did such an article u are asseting come up(though i stand to be corrected by u putting up the article so i can read). now i got u, in last comment u said something about obi using pr gimmicks such as denerio, bond girl, and omotola's salary to promote his movies, as aresult of this i put the leila and hollywood stuff to see ur response, now i ask u, can u confidently point out or show evidence tha infact it was obi using all those denerio, bond girl, and omotola's salary stuff to promote his movies, next time think before accusing people when u have no proof. i guess i can say that the fact ties that bind won ghana movie awards was becuase leila used fred amugi in her movie ties that bind, fred amugi is also a board member in ghana movie awards. i can also say that because fred amugi was to be featured in leila's that bind that is why sinking sands won best picture for the first edition of the award in 2010. obi has nothing to do with how the reporter decided to put his or her words and as such shouldn't be faulted for whatever or however the reporter put up there statement. lancelot was simpley telling it like its, take it to any where what he said was the simple truth, u tell me how that above post mentality relates to what lancelot said, lanclelot is one of the few filmmakers in africa that i can confidently say is not selling out, by that i mean they he directs and makes his films without imbibing western style into his movies(though u can accuse him of that when he was working with emem isong, but definitely not with his recent works), most african filmmakers now are making their films more western, u can never be more american that the americans, according to lancelots, he said he will still contiue to make films in the nigerian way but this time he will step it up by globalizing it, the way an african reacts isn' the way a western reacts, so why make our movies they way they do, actually the only person having mentality here is u by believing that for a movie to have arrived it has to be featured on E news, hollywood reporter etc wow still waiting for the white man's approval before u beleive ur work is good enough.


Leila Djansi finally sells out in Ghana with

Leila Djansi's "Ties That Bind" Premiere Pulls Crowd | Movies | Peacefmonline.com

let me add, this thread is not about liela djansi. abeg. why make references to her i don't know.
even if he was speaking about francophone movies, to compare popularity to quality work. and that is where the bone of contention is. i don't know why we keep complaining about selling out and western endorsement or whiteman approval. But when any of our actors gets a chance to star in a major film with western stars, we scream, ah hollywood close for her oh. hypocrisy. if you can't have something, you shoot it down, when you have it, it becomes the best thing ever. na wa for una. when oscar comes calling, don't go. tell them you don't want western endorsement. AMAA is enough. we are the same people who struggle to shop abroad. why not wear made in naija shoes and leave the gucci and prada to the west? why una no go manufacture your own cameras? why use cameras approved by the west? double standard.

henchy, i no get ya time.
 
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Leila Djansi finally sells out in Ghana with

Leila Djansi's "Ties That Bind" Premiere Pulls Crowd | Movies | Peacefmonline.com

let me add, this thread is not about liela djansi. abeg. why make references to her i don't know.
even if he was speaking about francophone movies, to compare popularity to quality work. and that is where the bone of contention is. i don't know why we keep complaining about selling out and western endorsement or whiteman approval. But when any of our actors gets a chance to star in a major film with western stars, we scream, ah hollywood close for her oh. hypocrisy. if you can't have something, you shoot it down, when you have it, it becomes the best thing ever. na wa for una. when oscar comes calling, don't go. tell them you don't want western endorsement. AMAA is enough. we are the same people who struggle to shop abroad. why not wear made in naija shoes and leave the gucci and prada to the west? why una no go manufacture your own cameras? why use cameras approved by the west? double standard.

henchy, i no get ya time.
before i reply u i will like to delve into this issue of western influnce, yes u can say practically almost everything that has led to civilization in africa came from the western world, there is a difference between primary needs and self potential, in africa almost everything we use were handed over to us by the west(by the west i mean the more advanced countries, is not convenient to name them all here), generally africa hasn't developed to the extent of making such things themselves, these are primary needs(such as clothes,cars,videos,games,planes,books etc) that not only africans but the whole world need on daily basis, now i beleive most of us here went to high school in our respective countries, let me assume some of us here went to a boarding high school, while u are still a student u follow all rules and regulations right and the school officials and teachers enforces these rules and regulations on us don't they, but after we graduate do they still have the power to enforce these rules and regulations on us, the answer is a pure no, the point i am trying to make here is the fact that yes the west brought a lot to africa such as education, clothes, technology(some of which we can't handle on our own yet) etc now we have all these stuff, do we still need to wait for the west to enforce it on us, for example, the west brought education to us, now we can handle our educational system ourselves do we still need the white man's approval before schools agree that a certain set of students are ready to graduate or have achieved what the came to school to achieve, do we need the white man's approval before we believe we can turn on the gas cooker, drive a car, write a letter, iron our clothes, build and paint a house, answer a call etc this is what i call self potential, there is nothing hypocrtical or double standard about it, i don't have any problem if any of our films or music goes ahead to win an oscar and grammy respectively, what i have a problem with is the fact that most of us think that only when we win such awards, that is when we have arrived, again waiting for the white man's approval which is exactly what u are doing. by the way the article link u put up there only shows an article that talks about ties that bind sold out premiere, not a sold out theatrical run that lasted a month like u implied, a sold out premiere does not in any way imply a box office hit my dear. and please don't come here telling me this thread is not about leila, u indirectly made it about her when u said ties that bind was picked up by image entertainment for distribution, that my dear is the basis for the references.
 
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