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Ojukwu is doing well in London – Obi

Discussion in 'NEWS, BOOKS, CULTURE' started by Dsampler, Jan 25, 2011.

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  1. Field Marshal

    Field Marshal ABSOLUTE SUPREME RULER

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    No, the Russians (Soviet Union) supplied the Federal troops (Nigeria) MiG 17s, that were piloted by the Egyptians and they bombed Biafra indiscriminately.
     
  2. Brooms

    Brooms A Pimp Called Slickback

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    You are still not getting me....I understand your point about self directed learning. In the past, very little was said about the war to spark one's interest in its history in the first place. I have read several articles on Biafra in the last 5 or so years, after Adichie's book came out. Prior to then, you would be hard pressed to hear people of our age congregating and talking about it. And lets be real, historical materials are easier to come by in the West than back home. The internet alone is a great resource. How many people have that back home? Yeah you can teach yourself, but something has to spark your interest. Especially if you've never lived in Nigeria.
     
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  3. wendydoks

    wendydoks Chickala si odeshi

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    why do you find it so interesting?
     
  4. sidney

    sidney Well-Known Member

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    The US is Israels biggest ally. With exception to current dispute over Gaza strip settlements, the US and Israel usually align one the same side. But this was not the case here. Israel actually align on the same side with Russia, right in the middle of the cold war...
     
  5. sidney

    sidney Well-Known Member

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    I see what you are saying...
     
  6. kolinzo

    kolinzo Oodua4life

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    The coup landed Awolowo in Jail? The same Nzeokwu coup? And the ultimate betrayal? I laugh!

    Can you back this up?

     
  7. Mkgirl

    Mkgirl Active Member

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    Funny enough Kainene was also my fav character in the book.
     
  8. Dsampler

    Dsampler D. Ultimate Naija Ruler

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    So, what was the role of The Owelle of Onitsha (Azikiwe) in all of this? Afterall, he was supposed to be our George Washington (The Father of the nation) and our first President. He just stood by & watched?
     
  9. wendydoks

    wendydoks Chickala si odeshi

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    you dont have to accept it. it is still true. i read it somewhere. when i do find it, will post it.
     
  10. wendydoks

    wendydoks Chickala si odeshi

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    lol....she is very special and quite a mystery.
     
  11. wendydoks

    wendydoks Chickala si odeshi

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  12. Dsampler

    Dsampler D. Ultimate Naija Ruler

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    takestyle Well-Known Member

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    I've spent the past week doing some serious research, and the conclusion I've come to is...

    Fuck Ojukwu. And fuck any Igbo people who view him as a hero or a savior. You guys are either insane or ignorant if you don't see him for the monster and the traitor he is.

    Also, after researching some of the treatment given to non-Igbo minorities in Biafra by Ojukwu's soldiers, I can understand why the Ibibios, Efiks, and Rivers tribes hate the Igbos so much.

    It's a hot mess.
     
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  14. blackpearl

    blackpearl oloju come and do

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    interesting!
     
  15. ssergit

    ssergit ..still The Drama Queen!

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    I have heard such comments from some relatives regarding Ojukwu and the war...I thought they were just sour losers....I am talking about Uncles that were very bitter and curses Ojukwu out! And that is why I still believe there is more to this whole Biafra thing, now you see why I asked from the early part of this thread that not everything has been said about Biafra, the different sides of the stories, and why Ojukwu should not die yet till he really tells all that went down, but you shouted me down, without trying to see the point I was coming from, you and others referred me to the same ol' same ol' books and documentaries, written by same ol same ol arse lickers. Mostly foreigners, meanwhile, the real gist is within our own borders, hidden in the silence of wounded hearts and souls!

    Without insulting the Hero of the Igbos, I know, I feel and I still stand by the fact that there is a part of this Biafran war that should NOT go to the graves with people! Both fighters, defenders, leaders, victims and survivors.


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  16. Dsampler

    Dsampler D. Ultimate Naija Ruler

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    wow!
     
  17. sidney

    sidney Well-Known Member

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    You just can't leave well enough alone abi?

    ok.....
     
  18. ssergit

    ssergit ..still The Drama Queen!

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    errrrm....NO! You and I agreed to disagree Sidney on the Biafran thing, doesnt mean that I still don't think and believe what I believe, that there is more to the whole thing that is not said yet. You don't like that my instinct is right huh? *wink wink* :)

    and what have I said that is wrong here? I am happy Takestyle has taken time to research this and knowing him, he must have done a very thorough search. I may disagree with his style of eliciting arguments from people here, but I don't and have never said he is not an intelligent person. So, I cosign his new stand on this. I only wish he would write it as a full paper or report, I really would love to read it.
     
  19. takestyle

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    Well... There are a lot of things I've read of late and I don't know how to process them. I've been reading a lot of newspapers from that era... of course, they were all Nigerian government-owned newspapers so they had their own spin and their own propaganda to make "Emeka" (as they constantly referred to him i a jeering manner) look like the Hitler of Africa.

    The Nigerian government invested a lot into trying to repair the country's image and defend it against charges that it was pursuing an Igbo genocide... Interestingly enough, they also made charges that it was actually the Biafrans who were threatening genocide against the non-Igbo eastern minorities.

    Some of the most chilling testimony of this came forth during the hearings on the peace negotiations held in Kampala, Uganda in 1968. A prominent Efik doctor named BJ Ikpeme spoke about some of the atrocities Biafran forces visited upon the Efik and Ibibio people.

    I don't have a direct link to the Kampala depositions and I don't have energy to start typing them up right now, so please settle for this Google Books preview to a book that cites some of Dr. ikpeme's testimony:

    CLICK ON PAGE SNIPPET, START FROM THE TOP OF PAGE 209 AND SCROLL DOWN

    Now mind you... I don't necessarily take any of this at face value. The Federal government fabricated a lot of lies about Biafra in order to salvage its own image. And Dr. Ikpeme, along with George Kurobo and others were considered traitors who initially supported Biafra and then at some point switched sides for the sake of their own personal gain/survival.

    But what bothers me is that I have searched high and low for ONE citation debunking Dr. Ikpeme's testimony and I haven't found anybody to allege that what he said is not true. In fact, I've barely seen any scholar or commentator upon the address his allegations at all.

    That disturbs me greatly.
     
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  20. ssergit

    ssergit ..still The Drama Queen!

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    Oh my God!!! I read that excerpt and it reads like a scene from 'Schindler's List'!!!! Like Hitler at work, live in the Eastern region! Did Ojukwu at any time communicate with Hitler? Igbos did that to non-Igbos around them????????
    Where and how the hell did they learn to commit genocide like that? I mean, 1967, that is like 7 years after independence!

    That story is disturbing! And I am sure it is not a public information, because, me, being an Igbo person, reading it, definitely hate igbos!!! And yet, we used to curse out the hausas for slaughtering the igbos in the North in the 90s, not knowing that such atrocities has already been done in the 60s? And these are not the type of stories an Igbo elder will tell his offsprings and family members! And to think that most of the people that committed all those heinous crimes are now our elders, eating and drinking with us, and our family members!??? This is scary!! Shooting a day old baby? That soldier that pulled the trigger could even be a big person in the society! Perhaps this is why our families have this silent code on Biafra, because if they really talked and said the truth, we would see the beasts and evil soldiers they were wearing the Biafran uniforms! Oh my goodness! :(

    With accounts like these, from prominent people, who would then blame the Ikwerre man for refusing to answer Umuola? But sticking to his Rumuola!

    Honestly, with more revelations like this, I am now mega convinced that if the true story of Biafra is brought to the surface, a lot of mindsets would change.
    Sadly, I sincerely believe Dr. Ikpeme. I do.

    This writer surely has a way with words.... this sentence is a heavy blow below the belt, dang!
    Hopefully, before our generation and all the war generation dies off, maybe, just maybe, someone would discover a hidden diary and tell everything AS IS.

    Thanks Takestyle, very informative post. You've given me a new angle to search now. Well done.
     
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