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Oscars Must Create an Award for Nigerian Films

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  1. Sola

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    Oscars Must Create an Award for Nigerian Films - Lancelot
    By Clementina Olomu

    http://www.thisdayonline.com/saturday/20040619sac03.html
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    He started as a proWhile his contemporaries went in search for a white-collar jobs, Lancelot Oduwa-Imasuen was busy carving a niche for himself in the arts. He was convinced that he does not have a future in paid employment. Hence he never earned a salary in his life.

    His flair for arts couple with the experience he has as contract staff with (NTA) paved way for him. With the introduction of the home video, he produced his first film in Igbo language titled Adaku, even when he does not speak the language.

    The producer of Private Sin and Sinners in the House amongst other numerous videos flicks, Lancelot affirmed that "the industry is the best thing that ever happened to Africa, though a non government initiative. We been able to create awareness that talents exist in this country".

    Though, with lots of video films being turned out in the industry, he believes that they (practitioners) have not started producing films. He says they are still using the medium of video and they have achieved so much. "Imagine what will happen when we start producing films?"

    "Today in Nigeria, home video is the greatest weapon of change. We entertained and informed. No matter how poorly produced a film is, there is always a message. Movies are made for social transformation. Sometimes pastors used certain scenes to preach their sermon in churches."

    When asked if his movie Private Sin is meant to correct certain impression in Christendom? Lancelot explained that "Circumstances can push people to sin. Positions people occupy at any given time warrant that they should be careful. If a woman is good, she brings about a situation of subtle and positive change. Though the pastor is right, at the end, due to the manner he went about his problems. I was trying to paint a picture of how situations can be handled in the movie", he said.

    He said the industry is still burning with desire to turn out more films and to penetrate markets beyond Nigeria's shores. "The fever for movie is on. Our films gets to where oil cannot be seen. It gets everywhere in the Diaspora and has brought more attraction. The federal government must set up parastatals that should relate to the guilds from to time. Kenyan government has set up a committee to see how they can turn things around, due to the image we have created. Right now, Hollywood is almost silent in Africa.

    "Taking a critical look at what the industry has done so far, Oscar must create an award for Nigerian movies in my time," he stressed.

    On the controversies surrounding the operations of the National Film and Video Censors Board - NFVCB - he said "In as much as I agree that they should be a level of control, sometimes the beauty in films is lost due to the rules and policies of the board. This limits our creativity, since we are highly restricted which is not good enough for us. But we are developing everyday, and time will take care of everything."
     
  2. vince

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    I don't think we should get hysterical here! :eeek The Oscar awards already has a category for foreign movies and that is where naija movies has got to make their marks,if they can,that is.
    A special award for nollywood movies is totally unrealistic and too optimistic and it will never happen.
    If bollywood movies couldn't get one,why should nollywood.Let's be realistic for once. :eyes
     
  3. 2nd Bass Jare

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    Vince my brother,

    You see, I'm with you one million percent on this one. Going by the Sidney Lumet quote under your name, I know we have something in common. I wrote my final thesis in Law School on Sidney's films.

    I'm sure if we both sit down to realistically analyse the Nigerian film industry, we would end up on the same page. I have a great passion for films and I'm sure you do too.

    Cheers.

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  4. vince

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    Thanx,2nd bass.
    Mr Imasuen is one of our foremost moviemakers and i respect him a lot going by the movies that he has made,but there is no reason whatsoever for this delusion of grandeur.
    Bollywood won oscar's award for the best foreign movie with LAGAAN,and China won it too with Crouching Tiger,Hidden Dragon.I mean these movies matched and even surpass the socalled hollywood movies in every aspects of moviemaking,and that is what naija moviemakers have to do if they want an oscar.
    I think Mr.Imasuen needs to see these two movies to know exactly how far back nollywood is still is,providing the right quality level to even qualify for a nomination.
    Mr.Imasuen is a good director,so if he has an oscar ambition,he can start preparing a movie from now to be ready for the next year's oscar.
    One thing is for certain,a "papapa" style naija movie will not come within a thousand mile of the consideration for the oscar nominations,let alone get nominated,let alone win.
    But one thing i know for sure,winning it is not beyond him or any other naija moviemaker who really sets his/her mind on achieving such a success,but anyone who wants to accomplish such a feat has to start very early(like now)and do a movie the way established world moviemaking industries make them.
     
  5. tessy_ewere

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    thats for shizzle, naija movies still have a long way to go.the name alone nollywood even shows our level of individuality, development and originality.even some great films in america still do not live up to the expectations of an oscar.i am not trying to be negative, but i think it will be decades or even centuries, with the way we are going before we will even be nominated for an oscar.
     
  6. 2nd Bass Jare

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    I have seen a couple of Lancelot's films and although I can understand every director's dream of winning an Oscar, his reasons for calling for a Nigerian category is bourne out of noise. Maybe he thinks that by calling for it, you know, like calling for the end of Apartheid, pressure will be on the Academy to do the politically correct thing and grant his request.

    Any director in the world is capable of winning an Oscar, including Lancelot, but you have to make THAT film first, and that's what most people seem to bypass when talking about real world recognition for our films.

    A good point you made Vince, but I think Crouching Tiger really could be classified as a Hollywood film sef because it was made by Columbia, and it stars Hollywood actors Chow Yun Fat and Michelle Yeoh, and the director Ang Lee is an established Hollywood director, but the twist is it was set in China and the dialogue in Mandarin. So it had that double advantage of being nominated in the regular categories and also as foreign film. The film was so good it still came home with 4 Oscars including best cinematography.

    What do you guys think? Given the right materials, like a real budget (maybe $25m), full studio backing by the likes of Columbia, and Nigerian(ish) actors in Hollywood like Obba Babatunde and Carmen Ejogo, and was set in Nigeria, can we deliver a Best Foreign Film at the Oscars. And who do you think should helm such a film, based on the ability to handle such a big project.

    I particularly want to hear your views Vince.

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    I think Lancelot just made that comment in passing, one of those things you say that come around and sink teeth into your behind. I think for any Hollywood contention to be even feasible, the movie has to be made first and it will take money. No, the actors don't have to be based abroad. We just need a director capable of bringing out the stuff in the available guys.

    Tade Ogidan is the closest thing we have to that among the established names. But Tade is rather melodramatic and once you have seen a movie of his, you have an idea that his characters are going to have that messy-mouthed crying scenes laced with the unrealistic speeches that is just a director/writer passing on his opinion through his cast. I think if I sit down with Tade to write a script we think up together, and I assist him in directing, taming those excesses of his I have noticed over more than 30yrs (I really should do a book on him. I know so much others have no idea of!), I think we can do a small from-the-heart movie that will warm the cockles of the Oscars. Really, I do.

    TK will handle cinematography, assisted by Joe Gbemuotor.
     
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    Too right. Tade Ogidan can strecth a film till it snaps, but that doesn't discount him as one of our best at the moment.

    TK definitely for DoP, and although I chose those 'foreign Nigerian' actors in my example, I think our home grown actors can hold their own. The problem is that most of our male leads tend to polish their accents a bit on screen, so let's take on the model of Crouching Tiger and go native on the language. Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa?

    For female lead, I love Omotola but I will have to give the nod to Genny. Is this film a comedy sef, abi na adventure, thriller or suspense. Crouching Tiger + China + Mandarin equals to martial arts. What would be the correct genre to represent Nigerian film, historical epic or mordern love story? rewind back to directors, It's between Tade Ogidan and TK sha.

    I'm confused now.

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    I would go traditional/epic that has a crossover appeal in terms of theme. I actually have a story I have been sitting on for the past 5yrs along that line.

    Casting will depend on the story, but I would go with Genny or Uche Ama Abriel for the girls. The guys...I have to think about this. Many of them are not being properly directed, so it is rather tough to fully assess what they can do. Of course you will control their delivery or drop them altogether. Besides, you would shoot it in a mix of traditional language and English.

    Publicity is also important, so you would spend a good amount hyping the movie in the right places pre-oscar. It has to be seen by the right members of the academy to even get nominated.

    Tade is a director. I love and respect TK, but he is a cinematographer, a brilliant one at that, not a director.
     
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    We don't need a budget of 25 million dollars either to make a worldclass movie ripe for an oscar.Far less would be more than enough.
     
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    You're wrong, Vince. The making of the movie is like 40% of the obstacle. As I said above, you have to pitch it to the members of the Academy. That 's where the real money is spent. You have to grab their imagination by the nuts. And the American mind is a peculiar one and it takes a peculiar approach to sell anything foreign to it. Do you have an idea how much it costs to place ads in Variety, the industry bible? You have to post ads in newspapers. The movie must be released in America, even if it is only a handful of screens - and the academy members must be convinced to go see it, either through tickets, sending them tapes, etc. It is a big political game that your distributors here has to be able to play with the best of them. By the time you're done, the money will not even be adequate to do much. Believe me...
     
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    Well,i still believe spending all that money to make a movie just to win an oscar is pretty idiotic.
    We all know how wasteful hollywood's ways of doing things are,but they can afford it.
    With 25 mill,one can make atleast 20 worldclass naija movies.I would,anyway.
     
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    But you expect to make the money back 2fold. You will still have money to make your 20 movies. :)
     
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    NNA VINCE, JUST LEAVE THEM MAKE THEM DEY YARN PLANTAIN WEY NO RIPE.. U SELF SABI SAY WE PEOPLE SABI DREAM FOR AFTERNOON. I WONDER WETIN DEM WAN TAKE OSCAR DO WITH ALL THE "KPAA KPAA" FILMS WEY DEY AROUND
     
  15. tessy_ewere

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    nigerian movies do not need 25 million dollars to make a good movies becos


    i they do not haqve originality

    2 most movies are juju and god linked or witch craft

    34 nigerian directors are very narrow minded people and i totally do not think they can come up with a realy good story line

    4 those movies that are not juju linked, etc, are not original att all

    5 they either try to speak fune, or eat with mummy and daddy on the table
    is that what realy happens
    the only nigerians movies that given that money, people who would not stare on the street, intelligent directors, and very good actors would be the one about our independence and our history

    6 at least that would not be similar to other nigerian movies, and also not a stolen idea


    honestly speaking, i am not trying to be negative, but it will take a while for nigerian mivies to get there. we do not only need good directors and actors, we need good computer engineers, good make up artists, good designers , good cast and above eliminate curruption and bribing , so only those with real telent woulg get in. so guys lets try to be practical, its not that it can never happen, but it just cant happen now, even if we have 100 million dollars, unless xept we hire international help
     
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    Wow! Sola, Vince, please reply to this one o.

    2nd Bass Jare.
     
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    Why only us go reply to it!Let Mr.Imasuen himself come and reply to it. :)
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAAHHHHHHHHHHHH, are you FKING kidding me? Nigerian movies - Oscars? Please..if that was joke then I am laughing so hard I could crack a rib! Nigerian ego don reach epic proportions....maybe in the future..wayyyyyyyyyyy in the future but for now, with what I've been watching...HMM, make them wait for Oscar...watch the movies that win oscars and tell me which Nigerian film can compare! Even Senegal can contend, at least in the foreign film department but Nigeria, abeg...we have so far to go I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    Look I believe we can make an oscar winning movie in Nigeria, why not. We just need to get the right people to do it, get people to be interested. All we need is an oscar winning script, can we start from there first and hollywood people that are interested will take over from there. TK, Tade Ogidan and whoever might be the best of whatever they are right now, but for now they need to get their hands off anything that's hollywood and just observe the pros do it first lest they turn it into another FAN awards movie. If you depend on those guys to provide an oscar material, then you must be crazy not with what Sola had just said about Tade Ogidan too.
     
  20. Murtala

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    Ha Ha Ha .abeg Oh Nigeria Film No Reach Da Siet.
     
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