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vince

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Like i said before,you may see all this as tribal,but i see it as discussing a very important issue,and my response has nothing to do with tribal segregation,or anything of the sort.Your making a very sweeping remark that is totally false, prompted my own remarks,so no need to take it personal.The issue of our native tongues dying out slowly may not be much of a concern to you,but it is to me.So,forgive me if i get a little bit passionate when discussing it.It has nothing to do with any sentiment of segregation of any kind on this webboard.
Vince I told u doing movies in Yoruba or Efik or watever doesnt help sustain our tribal values and culture.... ur reply wasdirectly asking me to speak for my tribe... isnt that tribal segregation.... im I not a Nigerian... You forget that im Ibo doesnt mean I dont have Hausa, Ibibio, Kalabari, Yoruba..... friends or relatives, does it occur to u that my mother or grandmother might have been Hausa or Efik? I guess it didnt and mind u I love Nigerians irrespective of our cultural differences
 

Abike

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#24
Hi Sky! :)

How are you? Hope you're fine...I dont engage in tribal wars, I dont even know how to do wars with folks on the internet...however, I'm interested in you explaining what you mean as per the highlighted portion below...as I understand it o, (and I could be wrong..)...language is part of what helps keeps culture and values together, any sociologist would tell you that.....
for example here in the US, we have loads and loads of Mexicans! Anywhere you go, in the stores, mall, on the streets, you hear them speaking their language to their children, its evident in the tv shows, movies, music, etc they watch and listen to. My observation of this group of people is that in keeping their language together, they've also kept a significant portion of their tradition......

So, how is making movies in a language thats not english NOT helping in sustain that particular language, culture and values?

I'm just curious....

Thanks! :)





Bolanle I really want to stop it.... but Vince wont let me be....

Vince I told u doing movies in Yoruba or Efik or watever doesnt help sustain our tribal values and culture.... ur reply wasdirectly asking me to speak for my tribe... isnt that tribal segregation.... im I not a Nigerian... You forget that im Ibo doesnt mean I dont have Hausa, Ibibio, Kalabari, Yoruba..... friends or relatives, does it occur to u that my mother or grandmother might have been Hausa or Efik? I guess it didnt and mind u I love Nigerians irrespective of our cultural differences

Bolanle im tired of tribal discussions and hope this would be my last comment on it, u are safe!
 

vince

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#25
Thank you for this input,abinke.I hope sky does not misconstrue your question as the pursuit of tribal segregation,yet again.This is a very important theme and it should be thoroughly discussed...without exchanges of abuses,ofcourse.
Hi Sky! :)

How are you? Hope you're fine...I dont engage in tribal wars, I dont even know how to do wars with folks on the internet...however, I'm interested in you explaining what you mean as per the highlighted portion below...as I understand it o, (and I could be wrong..)...language is part of what helps keeps culture and values together, any sociologist would tell you that.....
for example here in the US, we have loads and loads of Mexicans! Anywhere you go, in the stores, mall, on the streets, you hear them speaking their language to their children, its evident in the tv shows, movies, music, etc they watch and listen to. My observation of this group of people is that in keeping their language together, they've also kept a significant portion of their tradition......

So, how is making movies in a language thats not english NOT helping in sustain that particular language, culture and values?

I'm just curious....

Thanks! :)
 

takestyle

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#27
Speak for your own tribe,sky.That is not true of other tribes,especially the yorubas and the hausas.The edo people are also very proud of their language and heritage.
Are you efik?
Oh yes,it does.
Newer generation of which ethnic group do you have in mind?Definitely not of the yorubas or the hausas.They definitely do not shrink from their native tongues.
In this case,again i think you should speak for your own tribe.If that is what is happening within the newer generation of your own tribe,then i can only offer my condolensces.
LOL there you go with the rabid tribalism again...

why do you tell sky_flies to "speak for his tribe"? if he has an opinion on something, then you can argue whether his opinion is accurate or not accurate, but why should he be constrained to speaking only on issues regarding HIS tribe?

and why does him expressing his PERSONAL opinion have to make him some kind of spokesperson for his tribe?

why can't he speak for himself as an INDIVIDUAL?

*smh*
 

takestyle

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#28
Vince I told u doing movies in Yoruba or Efik or watever doesnt help sustain our tribal values and culture.... ur reply wasdirectly asking me to speak for my tribe... isnt that tribal segregation.... im I not a Nigerian... You forget that im Ibo doesnt mean I dont have Hausa, Ibibio, Kalabari, Yoruba..... friends or relatives, does it occur to u that my mother or grandmother might have been Hausa or Efik? I guess it didnt and mind u I love Nigerians irrespective of our cultural differences
yes, sky... you are right: that was a TOTALLY tribalist statement.
 

vince

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#29
Let's stick to the real issue here,shall we.The central theme is,"PROMOTING OUR NATIVE TONGUES VIA OUR MOVIES".
Tribalism is not an issue here,so diverting in this direction should be ignored by folks who really have this issue at heart,thank you.
 

takestyle

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#31
Let's stick to the real issue here,shall we.The central theme is,"PROMOTING OUR NATIVE TONGUES VIA OUR MOVIES".
Tribalism is not an issue here,so diverting in this direction should be ignored by folks who really have this issue at heart,thank you.
it's not a diversion, vince.

it's something that YOU said and YOU should be held accountable for.

you said something that was pretty obviously informed by tribalist/collectivist sentiments. when sky_flies protested, you tried to suggest that HE "misconstrued" the statement. in other words, HE'S the one with the problem, not YOU--the person who made the ignorant statement to begin with.

dude... when you say something, at least take responsibility for your words as a man.
 

vince

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it's not a diversion, vince.

it's something that YOU said and YOU should be held accountable for.

you said something that was pretty obviously informed by tribalist/collectivist sentiments. when sky_flies protested, you tried to suggest that HE "misconstrued" the statement. in other words, HE'S the one with the problem, not YOU--the person who made the ignorant statement to begin with.

dude... when you say something, at least take responsibility for your words as a man.
You just can't let go,can you,takestyle?You just have this tribal stuff stuck in your psyche, when there is a serious issue to talk about.
Okay o,let me leave you to your problems.Me i no get time...:cool:
 

sky_flies

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#33
I no sabi oh, never check the film store, did films come out today? How did u know a Gene movie would be released today abi u just guess?
Yes nah.... u call ya sef MOVIEWIZARD and u no come know when we dey release our movies.... c ya head! Make I educate u but u go pay o!!!!

EMG movies comes out today and next week monday na YMG them go release, after that YMG, the recycling goes on till.... and yes Gene movie they come out today but dunno which one cuz about three are set for release but dunno which the marketers and producers reached an agreement on for release. I know its not 30days sha
 

sky_flies

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#34
You just can't let go,can you,takestyle?You just have this tribal stuff stuck in your psyche when there is a serious issue to talk about.
Okay o,let me leave you to your problems.Me i no get time...:cool:
Search urself before u suggest the worse of others.
 

takestyle

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#35
You just can't let go,can you,takestyle?You just have this tribal stuff stuck in your psyche when there is a serious issue to talk about.
Okay o,let me leave you to your problems.Me i no get time...
actually, vince... i think tribalism IS a serious issue in of itself.

you said something that was very obviously tribalist... you got called on it.

at that point, the mature thing to do would be to say "okay, my bad... that was foul on my part" and then you go on discussing whatever other "serious issue" you were discussing... no hard feelings.

alternately, if you don't believe what you said actually WAS foul, you can attempt to explain yourself better: why you expressed that sentiment, what it means.

instead, you're trying to do "chop and clean mouth"... you say something and then act like you didn't say it, or that the people who take exception to it are the ones who have a problem.

(YOU make tribalist comments and yet I'M the one with tribal stuff "stuck in my psyche"? huh????)

it's very cowardly and dishonest, and i find it quite disappointing coming from someone i thought i had some respect for.

(not that i expect you to care whether or not i respect you, of course... just saying.)
 

vince

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#36
Search urself before u suggest the worse of others.
I have,and i am clean.It is no fault of mine if you keep misinterpreting the motive behind every post i make.A
nyway,can we get back to the central issue,sky?
Abinke just posted a question in your direction about the topic at hand.Do you mind responding to it?
 

sky_flies

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#37
Hi Sky! :)

How are you? Hope you're fine...I dont engage in tribal wars, I dont even know how to do wars with folks on the internet...however, I'm interested in you explaining what you mean as per the highlighted portion below...as I understand it o, (and I could be wrong..)...language is part of what helps keeps culture and values together, any sociologist would tell you that.....
for example here in the US, we have loads and loads of Mexicans! Anywhere you go, in the stores, mall, on the streets, you hear them speaking their language to their children, its evident in the tv shows, movies, music, etc they watch and listen to. My observation of this group of people is that in keeping their language together, they've also kept a significant portion of their tradition......

So, how is making movies in a language thats not english NOT helping in sustain that particular language, culture and values?

I'm just curious....

Thanks! :)
Abike, im fine and trust that u also in good health.

I would have love to explain things to u but I really dont want to indulge in such discussions. Im hurting myself by doing that cuz as I keep pointing one finger, four point back to me.....

I loved ur instance but all I can say now and all I want to tell u is that the Mexicans arent filled with more of wannabes as we are in Nigeria and Maybe African as a whole.

Stay blessed
 

takestyle

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#38
I have,and i am clean.It is no fault of mine if you keep misinterpreting the motive behind every post i make.
vince, nobody is in your head... so you can't expect anybody to be privy to what the true motives are behind ANY of your words or actions.

the best anybody can do is to try to estimate your motivation based on the words you use... the words you used were clearly tribalist/collectivist.

if there is a failing in the communication of your motives, then the failing is with YOU in your choice of wording... NOT with the people who heard the words.

that's why i said it would make more sense for you to either say "mea culpa" and move on, or further explain your miscommunicated motives rather than saying that others are at fault for the problems of YOUR words.
 

moviewizard

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#39
Yes nah.... u call ya sef MOVIEWIZARD and u no come know when we dey release our movies.... c ya head! Make I educate u but u go pay o!!!!

EMG movies comes out today and next week monday na YMG them go release, after that YMG, the recycling goes on till.... and yes Gene movie they come out today but dunno which one cuz about three are set for release but dunno which the marketers and producers reached an agreement on for release. I know its not 30days sha


no mind me oh, i no dey movie wizard anything these days oh. I don completely lost it. Did u say u saw 30days posters around, which area of lagos abeg and what makes u think its not 30days thats coming out, which movie do u then think it is or which movies rather?
 

vince

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#40
The concept of the story itself has been used quite a few times in the past.If memories serve me right,this storyline has been used in the film called,ITOHAN.
What is the meaning of Ebuwa?
The full pronunciation in Osarebuwamen. I just had my first daughter and I called her that. Ebuwa also happens to be the name of the main artiste in the movie and her parents wanted her to live her name which actually means wealth. Ebuwa’s mother in the movie wanted the daughter to live her name by being the source of wealth in the family through any means. So, she was lured into prostitution, trafficked abroad, contracted HIV/AIDS and was sadly repatriated; and it dawned on her that it was her mother that made her pass through that gory experience.
Haba!To the elbow ke?Who dey yarn dis kain tory sef?!!Dat wan possible?!
Ladies are used in the graveyards, on top of slabs of dead people. You hear weird stories about how these men use them. A man inserted his hand up to his elbow into a lady, can you imagine that?
 
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