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Sandusky accused of child molestation

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samira

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Seriously, what kind of person thinks that his responsibility to report a child being raped ends once he tells his boss?

He could have done so much more, but as it stands he did the absolute minimum required by law. It's not a stretch to suppose that because of Paterno's inaction, multiple children were abused and forever damaged. And that will be his true legacy.

Good riddance to the so called great coach ....in my book, he is a horrible human being
 

sidney

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HM, now you are doing the insulting. I understand where Sidney was coming from. This is not the time for abstract philosophical reasoning. Which is what you were doing. It was derailing the whole issue. So take it easy. I found it highly disgusting that someone walked in on a grown man having anal sex with a 10 YEAR OLD and nothing was done about it. All because they wanted to keep the money and prestige machine which is the football team going. It makes me wonder if majority of Americans have sold their souls to the $. This would have caused a rukus anywhere else. I mean just just picture this big dude possibly bending a 10 year old boy over...and he was running summer camps for boys? Jesus. It is amazing how some powerful rich white men have been exposed lately.....this are the ones who would not hesitate to throw Black American youth in jail for very petty crimes. Now look at them. Their crimes are unspeakable. American Blacks have been through hell o.
It just makes me mad.... Instead of talking about the real issue here we talk about ridiculousness..

Some people's children were sexually abused, used and forever changed by a man, they and their parents respected. Who created a charity for the alleged purpose of helping under privileged kids but used it to select victims. It is the most vile and disgusting thing one can think of or do. Someone saw him molesting a 10 year old boy and left the premises without ensuring the boy was protected!.. And the subsequent coverup of the actions?? Sickening...

It actually doesn't matter if Sandusky's pedophilia came from homosexuality or not. What matters is adults failed to protect children they saw at risk... That is the issue!
 

His Majesty

The Prince & Princess
#25
HM, now you are doing the insulting. I understand where Sidney was coming from. This is not the time for abstract philosophical reasoning. Which is what you were doing. It was derailing the whole issue. So take it easy. I found it highly disgusting that someone walked in on a grown man having anal sex with a 10 YEAR OLD and nothing was done about it. All because they wanted to keep the money and prestige machine which is the football team going. It makes me wonder if majority of Americans have sold their souls to the $. This would have caused a rukus anywhere else. I mean just just picture this big dude possibly bending a 10 year old boy over...and he was running summer camps for boys? Jesus. It is amazing how some powerful rich white men have been exposed lately.....this are the ones who would not hesitate to throw Black American youth in jail for very petty crimes. Now look at them. Their crimes are unspeakable. American Blacks have been through hell o.
Brooms, trust me, it’s not in my character to get down and dirty with anyone, but I decided to make exception today b’cos dat fly has been buzzing in my ears for way too long already. I mean, it staggers my imagination how someone doesn't even understand when he's being ignored. I know that I do intimidate a lot of people but….dang, get over it already!

I mean, if he’s gay and feels condemned when I discuss that topic, then woe betides him because I haven’t even started yet. And there’s nothing he can do about it. Unless he chooses to jump off the Brooklyn bridge, that is.

As concerns to the angle through which I approached the topic, I make no apologies for that. My purpose was to tackle the topic from a different perspective – that is, I aimed at the root causes of some of these things. I know that not many people are within my range of communication, but I still reserve the rights to say what I wanna say on this forum. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, too bad. Get over it. Haha!!

So for some loser to jump all over what I posted shows that he’s deluded beyond redemption. Who the heck is he to tell me what I can say or cannot say? Who gave him the audacity? goodness gracious!!! Like somebody said, if you can't make it as a Naija movie actor then you can't make it anywhere. Hahaha!!!
 

Thickmadam

OHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHH!!
#26
*sigh*
i usually try to stay away from your gay bashings because..well..it's your perogative.
but really? i wish you would just keep it to the issue at hand here. we can open another thread for us to discuss the origins of pedophilia, whiere hopefully you can be open minded and discuss the root origin of grown men who molest young girls.
for personal reasons and due to somebody close to me that i have seen struggle with something personal, i am open minded about homosexuality but you appear to be a pastor and therefore cannot be open minded about homosexuality. i accept that.

but i'd rather we just keep the discussion to the issue at hand which is how these children were failed by people who saw them being abused, and people who were told that abuse was taking place and they were thrown away like used toilet paper.




Brooms, trust me, it’s not in my character to get down and dirty with anyone, but I decided to make exception today b’cos dat fly has been buzzing in my ears for way too long already. I mean, it staggers my imagination how someone doesn't even understand when he's being ignored. I know that I do intimidate a lot of people but….dang, get over it already!

I mean, if he’s gay and feels condemned when I discuss that topic, then woe betides him because I haven’t even started yet. And there’s nothing he can do about it. Unless he chooses to jump off the Brooklyn bridge, that is.

As concerns to the angle through which I approached the topic, I make no apologies for that. My purpose was to tackle the topic from a different perspective – that is, I aimed at the root causes of some of these things. I know that not many people are within my range of communication, but I still reserve the rights to say what I wanna say on this forum. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, too bad. Get over it. Haha!!

So for some loser to jump all over what I posted shows that he’s deluded beyond redemption. Who the heck is he to tell me what I can say or cannot say? Who gave him the audacity? goodness gracious!!! Like somebody said, if you can't make it as a Naija movie actor then you can't make it anywhere. Hahaha!!!
 

sidney

Well-Known Member
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Brooms, trust me, it’s not in my character to get down and dirty with anyone, but I decided to make exception today b’cos dat fly has been buzzing in my ears for way too long already. I mean, it staggers my imagination how someone doesn't even understand when he's being ignored. I know that I do intimidate a lot of people but….dang, get over it already!

I mean, if he’s gay and feels condemned when I discuss that topic, then woe betides him because I haven’t even started yet. And there’s nothing he can do about it. Unless he chooses to jump off the Brooklyn bridge, that is.

As concerns to the angle through which I approached the topic, I make no apologies for that. My purpose was to tackle the topic from a different perspective – that is, I aimed at the root causes of some of these things. I know that not many people are within my range of communication, but I still reserve the rights to say what I wanna say on this forum. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, too bad. Get over it. Haha!!

So for some loser to jump all over what I posted shows that he’s deluded beyond redemption. Who the heck is he to tell me what I can say or cannot say? Who gave him the audacity? goodness gracious!!! Like somebody said, if you can't make it as a Naija movie actor then you can't make it anywhere. Hahaha!!!
Bros, you have a totally right to say and post whatever you like. You have a right to your opinion, no matter how misguided. And I have a right to say you are full of shit. Nothing spoil... You are full of shit. But that's ok! You are a lousy dumbass! So!? You can't be the first nor the last... The earth is full of them.. I mean, I am sure I have also said some stuff that didn't sit well with others. And I am sure I was called out on it... Just like I outed you...

Look this is a public forum. You can say whatever you like.. Say anything.... Just be prepared to be answered...

Sadly no-one even listens to you seriously anyway... The laughter at the things you say and your fake, I have my source shit, is so played out... It is actually laughable...

Please RuPaul... There ain't shit you can say that ain't been said here or anywhere else... You must be confused thinking there is fear here... There is none. But you are too stupid, too blindly ignorant, too bitch ass, to realize it....
 

sidney

Well-Known Member
#28
*sigh*
i usually try to stay away from your gay bashings because..well..it's your perogative.
but really? i wish you would just keep it to the issue at hand here. we can open another thread for us to discuss the origins of pedophilia, whiere hopefully you can be open minded and discuss the root origin of grown men who molest young girls.
for personal reasons and due to somebody close to me that i have seen struggle with something personal, i am open minded about homosexuality but you appear to be a pastor and therefore cannot be open minded about homosexuality. i accept that.

but i'd rather we just keep the discussion to the issue at hand which is how these children were failed by people who saw them being abused, and people who were told that abuse was taking place and they were thrown away like used toilet paper.
Wait, he's a pastor?!?!?! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! It all makes sense now......
 

Brooms

A Pimp Called Slickback
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Bros, you have a totally right to say and post whatever you like. You have a right to your opinion, no matter how misguided. And I have a right to say you are full of shit. Nothing spoil... You are full of shit. But that's ok! You are a lousy dumbass! So!? You can't be the first nor the last... The earth is full of them.. I mean, I am sure I have also said some stuff that didn't sit well with others. And I am sure I was called out on it... Just like I outed you...

Look this is a public forum. You can say whatever you like.. Say anything.... Just be prepared to be answered...

Sadly no-one even listens to you seriously anyway... The laughter at the things you say and your fake, I have my source shit, is so played out... It is actually laughable...

Please RuPaul... There ain't shit you can say that ain't been said here or anywhere else... You must be confused thinking there is fear here... There is none. But you are too stupid, too blindly ignorant, too bitch ass, to realize it....
sidney you too. enough already ah. You people have turned me into a quarrel settler. Let it go.
 
#33
LOL!!! What exactly can you do you latent homosexual, you? What? Actually the worst you can do is continue to write the ridiculous crap (or craps as you put it) here to assult our collective senses.... That I do wish you would stop.... The being "too nice" thing... LOL... Please proceed with your un niceties...

You come here write utter nonsense, get called out on it and now your feelings are hurt.. Man up RuPaul!!

TM is the only one that likes to engage your bullshit, because she is fascinated with you as the rest of the world is with Michelle Bachman's gay bashing, closeted, self hating homosexual of a husband... It ok to come out of the closet, there are open minded people like her, me, Rude, VB and a host of other properly thinking people that won't spew the garbage you come here to write...

And calling you a homosexual is not an abuse to me.. To me your sexual preference has no bearing on the fact that you are as dumb as a fence post. It's just a fact the way you fixate on where people put their dicks. This is a serious concern of yours... Speaking of home training, I guess some bad homosexual experience has caused the self hate which has not left you.. Eyah... Don't worry people like me don't see you are some sort of terrible scourge of the earth, like you see yourself......

Floor's open RuPaul... Fire away!
lol you read him right though. all he talks about is sex with uncoordinated grammer.
 

His Majesty

The Prince & Princess
#34
*sigh*
i usually try to stay away from your gay bashings because..well..it's your perogative.
but really? i wish you would just keep it to the issue at hand here. we can open another thread for us to discuss the origins of pedophilia, whiere hopefully you can be open minded and discuss the root origin of grown men who molest young girls.
for personal reasons and due to somebody close to me that i have seen struggle with something personal, i am open minded about homosexuality but you appear to be a pastor and therefore cannot be open minded about homosexuality. i accept that.

but i'd rather we just keep the discussion to the issue at hand which is how these children were failed by people who saw them being abused, and people who were told that abuse was taking place and they were thrown away like used toilet paper.
TM, the two issues are NOT mutually exclusive. I think it makes more sense to discuss the root causes of the matter instead of dealing with the periphery. To me, I think the right question to ask is why are homosexuals more likely to be pedophiles? It takes a great mind to look at an issue from a different perspective - try to address the causation.

Now, before some riff raffs jump all over me, I am not tryna say that all homosexuals are pedophiles or vice versa. But like I explained to the folks on yahoo forum, concerning racism in the Republican Party: Not all republicans are KKK members, but if you're a KKK member, you're more likely to support the tea party and conservative right wing than President Obama's party.

Unfortunately, some folks here would resort to destructive negativism just because they do not have the intellectual capacity to follow the debate. They'd rather foul the atmosphere with their intrusive, disgusting, fetid, putrid and repellant incoherent rants; while wallowing in the mire of their neck deep ignorance to misinterpret every sensible idea put forward and desecrate the intellectual debate we are trying to have here.

Now back to the issue at hand. TM, we can't make these things up. A new study by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey recently confirmed that a definitive link exists between male homosexuality and pedophilia. The report entitled Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, shows that while homosexual men make up less than three per cent of the adult male population, they commit a disproportionate number (one third or more) of child sexual molestations. Dailey's report is being sent to parents, youth groups, school administrators, Catholic bishops, and religious organizations.

According to Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, pedophiles have long existed as a subculture within the gay rights movement. Dailey quotes David Thorstad, a homosexual activist and founding member of NAMBLA, to demonstrate that by 1985, pedophilia had gained acceptance within the homosexual movement, as it was in that year that NAMBLA was admitted as a member in New York's council of Lesbian and Gay Organizations and the International Gay Association. In the words of Jim Kepner, at one time the curator of the International Gay and Lesbian Archives in Los Angeles: "A point I've been trying to make is that if we reject the boylovers in our midst today, we'd better stop waving the banner of the ancient Greeks, of Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Oscar Wilde, Walt Whitman, Horatio Alger, and Shakespeare. We'd better stop claiming them as part of our history unless we are broadening our concept of what it means to be gay."

And there are several other studies, but time would fail me to cite all of them on this thread. I don't make these things up! Some of us actually do read, lol.
 

His Majesty

The Prince & Princess
#35
For further reading on this subject, I will recommend the book Vatican II, Homosexuality and Pedophilia.
And there are quite a few other books/studies on this subject as well if you prefer not to read this one
 

nike007

Well-Known Member
#37
Fuck the Vatican! The same assholes that pay the parents of molested children to save face! Pedophiles molest children, not gay people. Everything you just said is bullshit. I am disappointed and sorry for anyone who believes the things you say.
 

Sifu

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#38
I have not really had a chance to hear the details on this case but I am watching Dr Drew Pinsky right now and the person who caught this animal on the kid actually saw him having ANAL SEX WITH A 10 YEAR OLD CHILD. Am I dreaming here. How can that old fart be talking about coaching even one more game when someone walked up to him and said this man was raping a 10 year old and yet he kept working with him. Lai lai. This man must go.
 

Abike

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#40
And the story continues:

Paterno’s firing prompts chaos, sadnesss at PSU - College Football - Rivals.com

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – Fired by phone.

Joe Paterno, a man who until last week could make a claim to being the greatest coaching institution in the history of college athletics, was terminated Wednesday night with a phone call. Forty-six years as head football coach at Penn State ended when he was informed by university trustees John Surma and Steve Garban that his services were no longer needed. Effective immediately.

It’s the way some employers would treat a middle manager, not a legend. But in the end, maybe that’s heartlessly fitting – after all, Paterno abdicated his powerful role and played the part of a mid-level employee in passing the buck up the ladder when informed in 2002 that an alleged pedophile had raped a boy in the showers of his football complex. The crucial lack of leadership in a moment of dire crisis led to the end of his leadership at Penn State.

Thus the fifth day of the Jerry Sandusky scandal in Happy Valley began with Paterno bargaining for time and ended in chaos. It ended with an embarrassing press conference that made both the trustees and the media look like clowns. It ended with Surma, the board’s front man, unable or unwilling to specifically define why Joe had to go. It ended with sprawling student protests across campus and downtown.

And it ended with an ever-lengthening list of men who have lost their jobs at Penn State because the school so completely failed to protect innocent children from an alleged predator. We have already seen athletic director Tim Curley take a leave that will undoubtedly lead to a firing. We have already seen vice president Gary Schultz step down. Now president Graham Spanier – a non-responder during this bleak period – has resigned. And now we have seen the biggest name in Penn State history, Joseph Vincent Paterno, fired before he could even get a goodbye game in front of the fans who worship him, fired before he could even saddle up for a long-delayed ride into the sunset.

Paterno clearly saw the chips stacked against him this week, which was why he took a pre-emptive shot at saving this season by announcing Wednesday morning that he would retire at its end. But that announcement came from the Paterno family itself, not the university. That was a sign that the school wasn’t ready to sign off on such a plan.

By 10 p.m., it was clear that the trustees wanted no part in perpetuating Paterno’s career even one game longer. In a vote it said was unanimous, they moved to end an unparalleled run in unceremonious fashion. When you consider the grip Paterno had on this university for decades, it took some gumption – and a national outcry – to fire the man in such abrupt fashion.

“To allow this to continue, we think, would be damaging to the university,” Surma said.

While a good percentage of the world outside Penn State agrees with this dramatic action, it was greeted with outrage here. There were gasps in the room when the announcement was made, and students quickly mobilized in massive numbers to voice their loud (though disjointed) displeasure.

Among the chants that rang out on Beaver Avenue late Wednesday night:

“Hell, no, Joe won’t go!”

“One more game!”

“F—k Sandusky!”

Later, things became more aggressive. A TV news van was overturned by protestors near the administration building. Rocks were tossed at police.

A few football players came out to see the scene, but declined comment on the sudden loss of their legendary leader. (Longtime defensive coordinator Tom Bradley has been named the interim coach.) The ardor for Paterno was obvious, but you couldn’t help but wonder whether the students might be moved to one day show such united passion for those who suffered child sex abuse – the true victims here.

That is the danger in the cult-of-personality dynamic of college sports. Coaches are elevated to such mythic levels that they become larger than the programs they lead and often larger than the universities that employ them.

Perspective gets warped. Bad endings often ensue.

But the stupefying thing is that nobody – nobody – could ever have foreseen a scandalous ending for Joe Paterno. He had done so much right for so many years. He had won so many games, donated so much money to the school, graduated so many players, made so few missteps – not a single major NCAA violation in a sport rife with corruption.

And then this blew up the perfect little athletic world. Jerry Sandusky in the Garden of Eden, his alleged crimes against children undeterred by those around him. A scandal so shocking that even the most jaded mind could not have dreamed it up.

Not those allegations. And not in this place.

A friend on Twitter called this the saddest sports story of his lifetime Wednesday night. It’s hard not to agree. Joe Paterno, onetime white knight of college athletics, was fired by phone. And despite the sporting tragedy of that, it pales in comparison to the human tragedies that were the catalyst for this stunning fall.
 
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