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Seinfeld's Kramer is a Racist!!!

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kaymax

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LOS ANGELES: Former "Seinfeld" star Michael Richards stunned a comedy club audience, shouting racial insults at people who made fun of him during his performance. His industry colleagues quickly condemned the outburst.

The 57-year-old actor-comedian, best known for playing Jerry Seinfeld's eccentric neighbor Kramer on the hit TV show, was performing at the Laugh Factory on Friday night when he started the insults, according to video posted on entertainment Web site TMZ.com.

The tirade apparently began after two black audience members started shouting at him that he wasn't funny.

Richards answered: "Shut up! Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a f------ fork up your a--."


He paced across the stage taunting the men for interrupting his show.

"You can talk, you can talk, you're brave now mother------. Throw his a-- out. He's a n-----!" Richards shouted before repeating the racial insult over and over again.

While there was some audible chuckling in the audience, someone could be heard gasping, "Oh my God."

"Once the word comes out of your mouth and you don't happen to be African-American, then you have a whole lot of explaining," comedian Paul Rodriguez told CNN. "Freedom of speech has its limitations and I think Michael Richards found those limitations."

Richards performed the next night at the Laugh Factory without incident.

Calls to Richards' representatives were not immediately returned early Monday.

He refused to comment on-camera when reached by CNN, but the news network reported that he said off-camera he felt sorry for what had happened and had made amends.

Veteran publicist Michael Levine, whose clients have included famed comedians George Carlin, Sam Kinison and Rodney Dangerfield, called Richards' remarks inexcusable. Comics often face hecklers without losing their cool, he said.

"I've never seen anything like this in my life," Levine said Monday. "I think it's a career ruiner for him."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/20/arts/NA_A-E_CEL_US_People_Michael_Richards.php

Other sources:
http://www.tmz.com/
 

Sola

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Its the same thing many of them say when they think they can get away with it.

And what's the dummy doing heckling him?
 

Obariba

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Well they pissed him off and he was only trying to get back at them ...I dont believe he is a racist ...the guys heckling him are racist !!!

Why go to his show and mess with him ???
Shoot !!!!!!!!!
I would have called them nigs too and Im also black !!!
 

Funmibaby

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don't be silly, that behaviour is not excusable. you go to comedy shows, people do these things all the time. it sure as hell doesn't warrant someone saying "so many years ago we would have had you hanging upside down with a fork in your ***"........bad taste
 
#7
Thats sad...but he aint the only one thats does so.....im glad people are starting to see that people still bear hatred for african americans evn thoughs its been like 50 years.....since the slave trade!
 

lola_americana

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i don't give a damn what was done to him he has no right what so ever to talk anyone like that if they really wanted to be niggaz they should have punched the living hell outta him....................racist bastard
 

sidney

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Well they pissed him off and he was only trying to get back at them ...I dont believe he is a racist ...the guys heckling him are racist !!!

Why go to his show and mess with him ???
Shoot !!!!!!!!!
I would have called them nigs too and Im also black !!!
What? Is that the response to heckling?

No white person, none, has the right to use that word. Although that word should not be used by anyone, the use of it between blacks comes, historically, from the shared experience of salvery and racial mistreatment. The first people to use that term were slaves and slave owners. Both used the term VERY differently.

And there is also context. Watch the video (http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-racist-tirade-caught-on-tape/). There is something deeper inside this man about this issue. That kind of comment doesn't just 'pop' into your head. This is something he has thought about before. When? Maybe when he sees "All About Us" or "I Hate Chris" on TV and wonders why he can't can another show. Or does this cross his mind when Ludacris is cast in a movie? All this knowing his success was based on a show that mostly white people watched (I loved Sienfeld and not saying 'only' white people, I said mostly). That comment came from somewhere it had been burning. The N word was not as bad in itself, but the reference to lynching?!? To bring it home, call an Ibo person Okoro, but don't bring up references to how Biafra was defeated and his people were killed. That is something else... No comment warrants that response.

What he did is simply unacceptable and unforgivable.

I also don't understand why people want an apology. For what? Why? The apology would do what actually? Freedom of speech abi? I guess he had a right to say what he felt deep inside. That the heckler should have been swinging from a tree instead of being there.

wow....
 

grafikdon

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What? Is that the response to heckling?

No white person, none, has the right to use that word. Although that word should not be used by anyone, the use of it between blacks comes, historically, from the shared experience of salvery and racial mistreatment. The first people to use that term were slaves and slave owners. Both used the term VERY differently.

And there is also context. Watch the video (http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-racist-tirade-caught-on-tape/). There is something deeper inside this man about this issue. That kind of comment doesn't just 'pop' into your head. This is something he has thought about before. When? Maybe when he sees "All About Us" or "I Hate Chris" on TV and wonders why he can't can another show. Or does this cross his mind when Ludacris is cast in a movie? All this knowing his success was based on a show that mostly white people watched (I loved Sienfeld and not saying 'only' white people, I said mostly). That comment came from somewhere it had been burning. The N word was not as bad in itself, but the reference to lynching?!? To bring it home, call an Ibo person Okoro, but don't bring up references to how Biafra was defeated and his people were killed. That is something else... No comment warrants that response.

What he did is simply unacceptable and unforgivable.

I also don't understand why people want an apology. For what? Why? The apology would do what actually? Freedom of speech abi? I guess he had a right to say what he felt deep inside. That the heckler should have been swinging from a tree instead of being there.

wow....
That's a good one Sid. Comedians get heckled all the time and they often shoot back with 'personal' jokes (you're fat...ur ugly as f**@, ur mama dis ya yansh this) and not something like that Kramer guy did. If he can't take a heckle, he should go back to to his crack head Seinfield character. Just picture a scenario where a director works off his a** on a movie for more than a year and some critic comes out to say "This movie is the most ridiculous thing...a total waste of energy" Now this director will probably shrug it off instead of making reference to the critic's race.

We all know very well that NOBODY will make reference to the holocaust in such distasteful manner and get away with it, no matter the amount of provocation...it is impossible. That is exactly how serious it is. If Kramer doesn't know this... he is living in the Seinfield world where everything goes... *$#@ freedom of speech! There's a limit to everything and he's taken the handshake beyond the elbow.
 

kaymax

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What? Is that the response to heckling?

No white person, none, has the right to use that word. Although that word should not be used by anyone, the use of it between blacks comes, historically, from the shared experience of salvery and racial mistreatment. The first people to use that term were slaves and slave owners. Both used the term VERY differently.

And there is also context. Watch the video (http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-racist-tirade-caught-on-tape/). There is something deeper inside this man about this issue. That kind of comment doesn't just 'pop' into your head. This is something he has thought about before. When? Maybe when he sees "All About Us" or "I Hate Chris" on TV and wonders why he can't can another show. Or does this cross his mind when Ludacris is cast in a movie? All this knowing his success was based on a show that mostly white people watched (I loved Sienfeld and not saying 'only' white people, I said mostly). That comment came from somewhere it had been burning. The N word was not as bad in itself, but the reference to lynching?!? To bring it home, call an Ibo person Okoro, but don't bring up references to how Biafra was defeated and his people were killed. That is something else... No comment warrants that response.

What he did is simply unacceptable and unforgivable.

I also don't understand why people want an apology. For what? Why? The apology would do what actually? Freedom of speech abi? I guess he had a right to say what he felt deep inside. That the heckler should have been swinging from a tree instead of being there.

wow....


You know, I thought about that last night as well. An apology for what? For showing his true colors?? Someone on the Imus show this morning was also upset at Jerry Seinfeld for standing behind his so-called friend, saying that show had no blacks in it and it was probably full of a bunch of sheet wearing KKK hecklers".

I'm not sure whether this is good or not. I guess it's great to see folks for their true colors and who they really are, hence, no apology is needed. As matter of fact, we should thank him for showing us his true colors. As someone else said, hecklers are a part of comedy shows, comedians get it all the time, such does not warrant the behavior he displayed. I'm just in awe!!!
 
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Its the same thing many of them say when they think they can get away with it.

And what's the dummy doing heckling him?
Indeed it's what they say behind the dining table at home and in bars with their friends when no one is watching and there are no black people around.I mean we have always known this for ages.There is nothing new about this.

It's more subtle. This new type of racism.It hides behind claims such as affirmative action is reversed discrimination;some of my best friends are black;my girl friend is black;my favorite actor is Denzel Washington;I respect Condeleeza Rice,i think she is very smart;I love Colin Powell; I am madly in love with Barack Obama, and yet habors some of the most heinous and most atrocious beliefs about black people.

Is any wonder then that a character like Trent Lott can re-emerge from hibernation after his mighty fall in 2002 as the new minority whip of the 110th congress in 2006?!

The saying is indeed true.A leopard hardly changes his spots.
 

Abike

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If as a comedian, he cant take heckling, then he needs to go sit down.

So because the heckeled him, he now has a right to go off the deep end? OR everytime someone looks at me the wrong way in a store or follows my brother, i should start shouting racist comments?

Anyways, like its being said, he said things [some] of them say when blacks arent around!

MY thing is, why was he allowed to perform the NEXT day????
 

NTB

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don't be silly, that behaviour is not excusable. you go to comedy shows, people do these things all the time. it sure as hell doesn't warrant someone saying "so many years ago we would have had you hanging upside down with a fork in your ***"........bad taste
Well said
 

NTB

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If as a comedian, he cant take heckling, then he needs to go sit down.

So because the heckeled him, he now has a right to go off the deep end? OR everytime someone looks at me the wrong way in a store or follows my brother, i should start shouting racist comments?

Anyways, like its being said, he said things [some] of them say when blacks arent around!

MY thing is, why was he allowed to perform the NEXT day????

I agree
 

NTB

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Indeed it's what they say behind the dining table at home and in bars with their friends when no one is watching and there are no black people around.I mean we have always known this for ages.There is nothing new about this.

It's more subtle. This new type of racism.It hides behind claims such as affirmative action is reversed discrimination;some of my best friends are black;my girl friend is black;my favorite actor is Denzel Washington;I respect Condeleeza Rice,i think she is very smart;I love Colin Powell; I am madly in love with Barack Obama, and yet habors some of the most heinous and most atrocious beliefs about black people.

Is any wonder then that a character like Trent Lott can re-emerge from hibernation after his mighty fall in 2002 as the new minority whip of the 110th congress in 2006?!

The saying is indeed true.A leopard hardly changes his spots.

Yes ohhh
 

Obariba

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What? Is that the response to heckling?

No white person, none, has the right to use that word.
wow....

But Blacks have the right ...huh ???
If blacks use the N word anyone on the planet can use that word too !!!


They went to his show and acted like Nigs ...why did it have to be two black guys up there acting out ???

He can call them worreva he wants ...if it hurt their feelings then he achieved his goal....Human beings will respond to verbal abuse with whatever verbs they can come up with on the spur of the moment!!!

I love Kramer and I dont think he is racist ...he was only defending himself !!!

Yup ...and thats my opinion !!
 
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But Blacks have the right ...huh ???
If blacks use the N word anyone on the planet can use that word too !!!


They went to his show and acted like Nigs ...why did it have to be two black guys up there acting out ???

He can call them worreva he wants ...if it hurt their feelings then he achieved his goal....Human beings will respond to verbal abuse with whatever verbs they can come up with on the spur of the moment!!!

I love Kramer and I dont think he is racist ...he was only defending himself !!!

Yup ...and thats my opinion !!
Really! I see..
 

Obariba

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don't be silly, that behaviour is not excusable. you go to comedy shows, people do these things all the time. it sure as hell doesn't warrant someone saying "so many years ago we would have had you hanging upside down with a fork in your ***"........bad taste
Well Ive been to the Improv tons of times and folks dont heckle the comedian....maybe its different in other parts of the country !!

But they asked for it !!


......and he came up with the first annoying insult to defend himself ...human beings do it all the time what makes Black folk so special ???
 

Babygal

LiViNmAlIfElIkEiTsGoLdEn!
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Well Ive been to the Improv tons of times and folks dont heckle the comedian....maybe its different in other parts of the country !!

But they asked for it !!


......and he came up with the first annoying insult to defend himself ...human beings do it all the time what makes Black folk so special ???
Are you kidding me? Oh you just wanna be the devil's advocate you know, to spice up the discussion...the issue is not that he said anything, it is WHAT he said. Get it right. The fact that he had to defend himself is not the issue. The hate he was spewing which touched on every black person under the sound of his voice, whether they heckled or not is the issue. I am not surprised sha, again it is what they say around the dinner table and in their trendy little bars or when they are playing golf , when no black person is around...diff day same crap
 
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