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Tribalists Have Hijacked Nollywood - Lari Williams

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Honourable

Mr. Naijarules!
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humm ... i never knew this thread had gone that far and as usual the same old song repeated and even if the igbo's have gone tribal and so what the yoruba's would have done the same if they were at the helm of affairs. It's so easy to see the speck in someone elses eyes ....what about Mount Zion ministry that have been able to penetrate and gotten a niche in the market. how many igbo's ,delta's or other tribes have you seen appearing in their movies ???? .. hasn't it been a yoruba affair , the artiist used in those movies are their acting impeccable ..NO.. ...can we find the chiege's there YES..... is it because it's skewed towards religion and so no finger should point back.. and in the soap we have the same going on the wale adenuga plays (super story) they should not be excluded.... but i choose to overlook the tribal sentiment... yes i will say it again the yoruba's would be found guity if they had more production outfit and if they were into the english form
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Chi I see ur gettin' bolder by the day!grinning:
 
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Nigeria itself is a tribalistic nation, little wonder this disease has entered this promisaing industry. Everybody is guilty - the igbo marketers and producers, wale adenuga, mount zion etc. but if we are determined to wipe it out then d better
 
#64
i have a question are all the marketters igbo? arent there yoruba marketters as well? the reason i ask is why instead of refferring to marketers as "the marketers they say 'gbo marketers" that for me is TRIBALISM
 

Honourable

Mr. Naijarules!
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i have a question are all the marketters igbo? arent there yoruba marketters as well? the reason i ask is why instead of refferring to marketers as "the marketers they say igbo marketers" that for me is TRIBALISM
My dear, nah so we see am o! How dare anyone accuse a group of individuals as being tribalistic when he/she's manner of speech reeks tribalism! Anyone that refers to Nollywood marketers as Igbo marketers is nothing more than a TRIBALIST.
 

Dsampler

Well-Known Member
#70
Nigeria itself is a tribalistic nation...
what the hell kind of sense does that makes? It's like saying America is a racist nation.
There may be infact racist Americans but that doesn't make a whole nation a nation of racists. Same goes for calling Nigeria a Tribalistic nation...mmmm not very smart.
 
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The last time I saw Lari Williams was at the Lagos State University (LASU) where he was teaching earlier this year.

He would have made more money if he had gone into Advertising as Dame Taiwo Ajai-Lycett did. And act whenever he felt like doing so. We should always have a Plan B as a survival strategy and should not depend on acting alone.

Tribalism is actually doing more harm than good to Nollywood.
 
#73
The last time I saw Lari Williams was at the Lagos State University (LASU) where he was teaching earlier this year.

He would have made more money if he had gone into Advertising as Dame Taiwo Ajai-Lycett did. And act whenever he felt like doing so. We should always have a Plan B as a survival strategy and should not depend on acting alone.

Tribalism is actually doing more harm than good to Nollywood
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i agree, ...and its really sad...i think no one should refered to by where they come from not even the marketers
 

Alaaworan

I No Be Gentleman
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Chi--You're discussing hypotheticals while we're talking about reality. I don't know if Yorubas are any better than Igbos when it comes to ethnic discrimination, if that's your problem. But you are avoiding the issue at hand if your only answer to this issue is that "Yorubas can discriminate too".

It's so easy to see the speck in someone elses eyes ....what about Mount Zion ministry that have been able to penetrate and gotten a niche in the market. how many igbo's ,delta's or other tribes have you seen appearing in their movies ????

I have no idea--I've never seen a Mount Zion ministry movie. I also have never seen an article quoting a professional berating them for discriminating against actors based on their ethnic origins. However, I have seen several, from Tunde Kelani to this one from Lari Williams, complaining about the more mainstream Nollywood producers.

.. hasn't it been a yoruba affair , the artiist used in those movies are their acting impeccable ..NO.. ...can we find the chiege's there YES..... is it because it's skewed towards religion and so no finger should point back.. and in the soap we have the same going on the wale adenuga plays (super story) they should not be excluded.... but i choose to overlook the tribal sentiment...

What is the "tribal" sentiment you're overlooking? I'm not a big fan of soaps. So tell me--where are the professionals who are claiming to be excluded from Wale Adenuga's works?

yes i will say it again the yoruba's would be found guity if they had more production outfit and if they were into the english form
This is a strange, and ultimately futile, way to look at things. This is not an argument about whose ethnic group discriminates less. Yorubas are not moral saints, though in my opinion, Yoruba movies are about as inclusive as English-language movies in their casting, despite the fact that English is a more broadly-understood language. Some Yoruba movies feature cross-over actors who are less than fluent in the language, as a matter of fact. Again, I have never read about a professional complaining about being shut out of the Yoruba-language industry.

So, to restate--the issue here is discrimination in the English-language industry, and the complaints are not limited to Yoruba performers. What would you say to Idoma, Delta, or even other Igbo practioners with the same complaints? Let's not reduce this to petty squabbles and try to answer the question sincerely, please.
 

ogonna

Active Member
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What would you say to Idoma, Delta, or even other Igbo practioners with the same complaints?
I'd say the following -

1. Work with class act producers such as Amaka Igwe, Ego Boyo and Emem Isong/Reemy Jess who are known for diverse casts and scripts. Why waste your time with producers of formulaic Igbo village movies?

2. Seek support from your state government for financing of movies reflective of your culture. Delta, Cross River and Bayelsa state governments have financed movies in the recent past. The challenge should be to get these governments to institutionalize these initiatives. All over the world, governments create film funds, commissions and agencies to promote their cultures and tourism. For example, Canada next door to America with a very similar culture complains that Nollywood does not adequately reflect Canadian society and so the govermnet provides film funding for Canadian filmmakers and for foreign filmmakers who want to make films in Canada. Likewise, the British government funds British filmmaking because it realizes that Hollywood domination would result in American cultural imperialism which will not reflect British culture so films like 'Four Weddings and a Funeral' and 'Trainspotting' are funded by the British government through the National Lottery.


I would also say to them that if you are from Delta/Edo/South-south, you can work with production outfits such as the Amata and Ejiro brothers who are notorious for discriminating against Igbo actors. See, the discrimination cuts both ways.

Even Hollywood is notorious for ethnic cabals. Just take a few hours and visit your local library and read up on the early history of Hollywood. Hollywood was controlled for decades between 1910 and the 1960s by Jewish immigrants such as Sam Goldwyn, the Warner brothers, Louis B. Meyer, Marcus Loew, Adolf Zukor, David Selznick and Carl Laemmle and so many others. Many of the early great Hollywood actors before the 1950s were of Jewish origin but had to anglicize their names to be accepted by an American society that still discriminated against Jews at that time. Is it purely coincidence that actors of Jewish origin such as Kirk Douglas and Charles Bronson rose to swift fame?

If you't get your butt to a library, you can start here -
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history_community/Modern/ModernSocial/JewsInHollwood.htm

- or google 'jews+hollywood'
 

Sola

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the Amata and Ejiro brothers who are notorious for discriminating against Igbo actors
I beg to differ here, Ogonna. Their productions that we all can see out there don't support this assertion by you. These folks are even more notorious for giving many actors, ethnicity notwithstanding, their start in the industry. Practically every big female role in their movies is played by someone of Igbo ethnicity. They were there at the very beginning and are actually responsible for much of the gains we are all reaping today. Let's not tarnish their names as if some of us here were not observers and participants as this history was being made. They may have their failings like all of us, being human beings, but that broad generalisation up their does not hold water by my reckoning.
 

ogonna

Active Member
#78
I beg to differ here, Ogonna. Their productions that we all can see out there don't support this assertion by you. These folks are even more notorious for giving many actors, ethnicity notwithstanding, their start in the industry. Practically every big female role in their movies is played by someone of Igbo ethnicity. They were there at the very beginning and are actually responsible for much of the gains we are all reaping today. Let's not tarnish their names as if some of us here were not observers and participants as this history was being made. They may have their failings like all of us, being human beings, but that broad generalisation up their does not hold water by my reckoning.
Point well noted.

Perhaps, I derive a different view from Amata/Ejiro movies in the last 2-3 years. As well as various public statements from the respective stables.
 
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