U.S. Olympic athlete, Mexican flag?

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sidney

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What do you guys think?

San Diego (CNN) -- Every few years, I reassess how I feel about Mexican-Americans who wave Mexican flags. Much of it has to do with who is doing the waving and under what circumstances.

In 2006, I wrote a column saying it was a bad idea for immigration reform advocates to wave Mexican flags as they marched through U.S. cities such as Phoenix, Chicago, Dallas and Los Angeles. It's illogical to show your allegiance to one country while demanding accommodation from another.

But in 2007, I penned another column after attending a Luis Miguel concert in Las Vegas where fans of the Mexican singer unfurled Mexican flags. Nothing wrong with that, I concluded.

It's all about context. There is a big difference between a political protest and a concert.

Now, thanks to U.S. Olympic medalist Leo Manzano, and what I consider to be the misguided and ill-mannered way he chose to celebrate his silver medal in the 1500-meters final, I get the chance to think through the subject of flag-waving once again.

After Manzano finished his race and secured his medal, he did what athletes typically do at the Olympics. He held up his country's flag -- the Stars and Stripes.

The 27-year-old was born in Mexico, but the United States is his country now. His father migrated here illegally from the city of Dolores Hidalgo. Manzano was brought here when he was 4. Like most immigrants, they came in search of greater opportunity. And they found it -- for themselves, and their children.

That little boy eventually became a U.S. citizen. And then, after a lot of hard work and thousands of hours of training, he got the chance to represent his country and compete in the Olympics. And, to put the cherry on the sundae, he actually wins a silver medal. The last time an American won a medal of any kind in the 1500 meters was 44 years ago.

You can't help but be proud of Manzano and the country that allowed him the opportunity to fulfill his potential.

So why did Manzano carry two flags with him on his victory lap? As the world looked on, he held up both the U.S. flag and the Mexican flag. Not a good look. And not a good idea.

Manzano posted messages on Twitter throughout the competition -- in Spanish and English. After his victory, he tweeted, "Silver medal, still felt like I won! Representing two countries USA and Mexico!"

That's funny. I only saw one set of letters on his jersey: USA.

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ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
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hmmmm...... I guess an American with one 'Nationality' will NOT understand the feeling of someone with DUAL nationality! I am proud to be an American and I Pledge to Nigeria my Country! ...is that a bad thing?
I go on international shows and they take out time to talk about my Nigerian heritage and my American success.....is that wrong?

Some events I want to be addressed as a 'Nigerian' designer. Others I want to be addressed as an American designer. Yet, some others, I want to be tagged 'Nigerian-American' or /and even 'African-American' designer and some, I simply don't care where they tag me! So, does that mean that I am not proud of my 2 countries? NO!

@Sidney....what i think? Hmmmm.... dicey one sha. Seeing most of us on this site sef are representing our oyibo and naija citizenships! Even some people sef wey never go naija for decades still come in here to identify with Naija. Even in Accra here, i pop out whichever passport would open the door faster! If the blue one would, I pop it our sharp sharp, if not, I pop out my green! if i can even add Ghana own sef, i would, only say its not allowed. sigh
 

kaymax

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While I get what Ssergit is saying, I think the main point the author is trying to make is that this is the Olympics, it's not a fashion designer show award, it's not a cultural award, it's a worldwide stage where you go together as a team, the USA team. Mostly any other circumstance, I would agree with you Ssergit, however, on this one, I have to agree with the author.

When you make a commitment to represent one team, you do just that. You should not go there, win under one team, and now wave two flags or decide to change your mind and say you're happy or proud to represent two teams. One cannot represent two teams in the Olympics.

Personally, I think this is a slap in the face of the country for which he went to represent.

Just my 2 Kobo!
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
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While I get what Ssergit is saying, I think the main point the author is trying to make is that this is the Olympics, it's not a fashion designer show award, it's not a cultural award, it's a worldwide stage where you go together as a team, the USA team. Mostly any other circumstance, I would agree with you Ssergit, however, on this one, I have to agree with the author.

When you make a commitment to represent one team, you do just that. You should not go there, win under one team, and now wave two flags or decide to change your mind and say you're happy or proud to represent two teams. One cannot represent two teams in the Olympics.

Personally, I think this is a slap in the face of the country for which he went to represent.

Just my 2 Kobo!
I understand Kaymax, but i am thinking in that state of Joy, dude wanted to show where he is from. And we know how the minority issues wallow deep in America. He may be American and wore the American tag at Olympics, but I'm sure that for him to be in America froim age 4 and still remain loyal to Mehico means that mexico had a lot to do with his upbringing....he might have a story, me thinks. If this dude was English-American...that perhaps may seen super weird. but he is MEXICAN! and we know how mexicans are treated in yankee. They may belong to those group of mehicans who would return back to their country 'if all things were equal'...if you know what I mean.....
 

Village-Boi

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I understand Kaymax, but i am thinking in that state of Joy, dude wanted to show where he is from.
He went there on a US passport and is representing team USA... luckily for him he is not team China, he'd have been shot by now for blatantly disgracing the country he is representing.
 

sidney

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I kind of agree with the author.. He went "representing" the USA.. Not Mexico... Mexico had a team and he wasn't on it... There are so many duel nationals representing one country because you can't represent two and you honor the country that sent you....

It is different being proud of your heritage, but he is actually waving the flag on another country. I think that was disrespectful....
 

ssergit

..still The Drama Queen!
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He went there on a US passport and is representing team USA... luckily for him he is not team China, he'd have been shot by now for blatantly disgracing the country he is representing.
Lol. Oh no! Chinese people DON'T joke with that kinda thing!
But, America should not be too angry sha, afterall, Spanish is the 2nd official language in town keh, Instructions are given in English and Spanish all over the place!

Honestly I would love to hear why he did what he did. There must be a reason or a story i am sure we would 'understand'.... I think....hmmmmm
 

Village-Boi

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But, America should not be too angry sha, afterall, Spanish is the 2nd official language in town keh, Instructions are given in English and Spanish all over the place!
If America likes let 'alien' be the numba one official language and when the man is in Yankee he can jump over a cheese moon and wave any flag he likes. This is the olympics and he is an 'official' ambassador of USA not Mexi-kini. Basically he is a 'Diplomat' that turned around and stuck two fingers up at his country... he is a traitor and that is treason! No ifs or buts about it.

Forget China sef... If Na Nigerian wey win gold medal and for interview im yarn say "I be Britico or a Yankeeness gives me asylum" them go lock him whole extended family for Kirikiri immediately and why not?!

Me sef anytime I do something good I am a Nigerian; when I do something bad I claim Britco.
 

Gen Sani Abacha

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If America likes let 'alien' be the numba one official language and when the man is in Yankee he can jump over a cheese moon and wave any flag he likes. This is the olympics and he is an 'official' ambassador of USA not Mexi-kini. Basically he is a 'Diplomat' that turned around and stuck two fingers up at his country... he is a traitor and that is treason! No ifs or buts about it.

Forget China sef... If Na Nigerian wey win gold medal and for interview im yarn say "I be Britico or a Yankeeness gives me asylum" them go lock him whole extended family for Kirikiri immediately and why not?!

Me sef anytime I do something good I am a Nigerian; when I do something bad I claim Britco.
Haahahahaha...oya, Maazi VB go on wid ya baaaaaaaaaadaaaaaaaaaaaass self! :D
 

Village-Boi

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Haahahahaha...oya, Maazi VB go on wid ya baaaaaaaaaadaaaaaaaaaaaass self! :D
Ah na true nah. I no dey Olympucs fillage bet I dey always fly Naija flag! Forget stori, nobody from this country fit ever yab Naija for my presence and get away with it. By the time I take logic bad mouth them well, well they go fall in love with Nigeria.
 

kolinzo

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so, whats the update? wetin Uncle Sam do am?
Wetin Uncle Sam go do am? Nothing! Why? Because there are thousands of Latino lawyers waiting to pounce on the case should they do something!lol.

But they will do something about it, albeit indirect judgement.
 
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