• This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn more.

when will nigeria films get better?

Status
Not open for further replies.

omotola86

Active Member
#41
I am not just going to let this pass me by one thing i've noticed from this kemi babe is that she seems to be to proud and arrogant and fails to see the whole point that every other person is making.
Secondly girl y start sthg u can't finish cos this is going to end up biting u in the butt. Ur approach to this issue is not the best u running ur mouth about the degrees u av does not justify ur lashing everyone here. There r better ways of approaching this issue.
Thirdly about blogs or forums. This is a forum and not a blog. I can tell u this cos i av and will still be studying computer science. Again using wikipedia as a source is not sthg u want to be doing cos it is not all that credible. I would encourage u to use credible sources to back up ur claims next time.
Finally if u think u can change the industry y not go ahead n do it rather making criticism from more than a thousand miles. I really do av problems with people like u who keep criticizing but neva lift a finger to solve the solution.
 

omotola86

Active Member
#42
The OP is not wrong in her posting. I think the first response to her was rude. She was just frustrated and angered that she was questioned on her authenticity.

I get very frustrated at the quality myself which in this day and time of global access to international films and books can not be excused.
Really there is no one that is not frustrated with the industry but i think when handling issues like this, u do not lash out @ people instead try to understand their own views and put ur heads together to come up with a solution.
She just went out on everyone claiming she is better than them. That is so wrong and just like funmi said earlier "u catch more flies with honey than vinegar" which was what her tone was implying. It takes time to get there but i believe they would get there soon cos Rome wasn't built in one day. Change can't just come in one day rather it takes a process.
 

takestyle

Well-Known Member
#43
Finally if u think u can change the industry y not go ahead n do it rather making criticism from more than a thousand miles. I really do av problems with people like u who keep criticizing but neva lift a finger to solve the solution.
thank you.

mind you, i don't subscribe to the view that one does not have the right to criticize unless they actively try to solve the problem. but in the case of kemibaby, who claims to be a highly educated and proficient filmmaker... well, you know so much, why don't you show us how it's done instead of just talking (idiotically) about it?

i actually disagree with filmdirector on a LOT of things (going back to the Nollywood.net forum) but at the very least, i have to respect her because she puts her money where her mouth is.
 

adjojata42

Well-Known Member
#44
hello

kemibaby, i think you have a point but the way you went about it was not the best. people on this forum have been doing their best, have you read the critiques of bb, takestyle and the others, very eye-opening. so next time try and approach the issue tactfully and you will get the result you deserve. we need to continue talking until we get the best results. no name calling please!!! we are all brothers and sisters of africa with divergent views, insults will not help us. TIME UP PLEASE!!!!!
 

Simisola

Well-Known Member
#45
Nollywood will only get better if the dammmmmmmmmmmn marketers will STOP, and i emphasise on that STOP, acting like igbo gods and idols(sorry to my igbo bredas & sistehs, who take offence to dis).
 

Atlakos

Life, Love & Happiness
#47
Can Some one please define to me who exactly these "marketers" are. What and who are they and comprise off. How come they have so much power and control so much such as banning, putting on stupid titles, coming out with gajillion parts to a movie. Inquiring minds would like to know.

WHO ARE THEY

WHAT ARE THEY

WHAT IS THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION


marketers marketers marketers - thats all i hear.
 

Hibachi

Veni Vedi Vici
#48
I assume Marketers are the people that advertise and sell the naija films.

As long as we can actuallly see something to watch both from Ghana and Naija, we should praise the Lord. Half-bread is better than none and i guess the answer to when will we improve is give us time to learn and improve. The japenese or blockbuster wey somebody mention no just gro overnite. Them take their time aswell i guess.

:)
 

Atlakos

Life, Love & Happiness
#51
the industry will get their act together only if they realise their competition from other english speaking african countries (e.g. Kenya, Ghana etc) is doing better than them and being recognised way better, and that time is very near. You watch and see.

Right now they are on cloud 9, they dont think anyone can touch them. Dont under estimate the "underdogs"
 
F

filmdirector

Guest
#52
thank you.

mind you, i don't subscribe to the view that one does not have the right to criticize unless they actively try to solve the problem. but in the case of kemibaby, who claims to be a highly educated and proficient filmmaker... well, you know so much, why don't you show us how it's done instead of just talking (idiotically) about it?

i actually disagree with filmdirector on a LOT of things (going back to the Nollywood.net forum) but at the very least, i have to respect her because she puts her money where her mouth is.
Much respect to you too bro. LOL but time out. What do you disagree on? I like healthy debates. A LOT OF THINGS?? That you have to explain.
 

takestyle

Well-Known Member
#53
Much respect to you too bro. LOL but time out. What do you disagree on? I like healthy debates. A LOT OF THINGS?? That you have to explain.
well, for one thing... i definitely don't agree with your... how shall i put it?

"Talented Tenth Theory," maybe?

i can recall an exchange we had once where you suggested that people back home are generally ignorant, and it is up to those of us who have been abroad to go back and educate them or something.

i understood the point you were trying to make, but i still do not really buy it.
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#54
it takes the voice of people to call for change. it is because people like you who are slamming me come on this thread to encourage their nonsense.
Do you know how much revenue we are talking about for the countries invloved if the film industry is properly structured? do you? do you know how the american film industry pays in taxes per year to the american government for films alone? I work for Paramount as an assistant in the legal depertment, with a masters in film, so you are not talking with anyone off the street. paramount pays at least 40million dollars per year in taxes, and that is for a bad year like 2006.
and the blind leads the blind. when I talk, people insult me. Ayishawa rai, was making silly bollywood movies but at least, india is full of light skinned people, computers and resources so, America bought her into the capital of the film industry.
I maintain that nigerian filmmakers need to learn and restructure before any hope will come for them.
until then, by all means Gather a bunch of 3 jobs a day nigerians who will collect 100dollars per head so they can fly in a bunch of naija actors and give then some wooden statutes. the actors will then walk about saying they recieved awards in America. see why the white man took you as slaves? deep sense of mediocrity!
hollywood film industry is the capital of the world of film, if your film or talent gets recognised there, then you are on track. other that that you are joke!!!
an organised industry involves insurance companies, artist agencies, guilds and unions, end of services benefits for the artistes. if your beloved gennievve looses her sight today. what will she eat in 5 years after she has exhausted all her money on drugs and hospital bills? the story will be different, if for every 1500naira she makes 150naira goes towards her social security. wander in your pull him down syndrome, that is why africa is like this.
Casting !!!!

wooden statue :lol
my diar ...abeg u sabi say Nepa still dey take light for Naija ?
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#55
Nollywood will only get better if the dammmmmmmmmmmn marketers will STOP, and i emphasise on that STOP, acting like igbo gods and idols(sorry to my igbo bredas & sistehs, who take offence to dis).


mai friend go and sit down wetin una Ogunde and co do all those years with una witchcraft themes ????

...stop blaming ibos on this marra !!!
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#56
Really there is no one that is not frustrated with the industry but i think when handling issues like this, u do not lash out @ people instead try to understand their own views and put ur heads together to come up with a solution.
She just went out on everyone claiming she is better than them. That is so wrong and just like funmi said earlier "u catch more flies with honey than vinegar" which was what her tone was implying. It takes time to get there but i believe they would get there soon cos Rome wasn't built in one day. Change can't just come in one day rather it takes a process.
actually the Nigerians abroad complaining ....... can equally begin a Nollywood industry abroad ...it appears we have so many educated movie wise experts abroad .... Sola did Missing in America ...why arent there other projects after that ??
Where is Maverick and Film director's movies ??
What happened to PomPom's 30 days ??

We need to see all these prototypes !!
Maybe Sola's ~Missing in America should be released again.

Some actresses are based abroad ..Regina Askya,Mildred Iweka,Ameze,Chet Anekwe,Rita Okoro etc we can start with them !

Someone like Ebbe Bassey/BB can put heads together with other American based Nigerians and create a body of work ...Hubs is also in the movie business and many others. You all need to network and embark on mini projects and slowly but surely ..u will create magic !!

If Ayesha and co can have Nigerian beauty pageants abroad so can the diasporian movie experts.

Ijeh has a nice designer business abroad.

Lets leave Nigerians surviving back home and focus on our talent abroad ....write proposals to Spike Lee and Russell Simmons they may be interested in doing projects from the Motherland ...thats my 2 cents/kobo !

Think outside the box !
 

Dsampler

Well-Known Member
#57
actually the Nigerians abroad complaining ....... can equally begin a Nollywood industry abroad ...it appears we have so many educated movie wise experts abroad .... Sola did Missing in America ...why arent there other projects after that ??!

Think outside the box !
Yeah, really, what happened Sola? When is "Missing in America 2" coming out?
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#58
Who is this?

I know you mean well. But vexing wont make it work. You know it will be rude to blame people for something you have no solution. You can't just blame people for not being bright enough when you yourself don't know shit!

You have to understand that these people ideas only limited to what they see in their environment and what they know.
No matter how bad it is.. it is one of the means of recreation for the people living in Nigeria. And I don't the Nigerians living in Nigeria are ready to stop anytime soon. If they hate bad things, they would have stop riding on molue and danfo with no doors...


Hubs I no dey stalk u oooh but u dey talk some big big sense these days ...to me its like complaining the quality of garri we import from Nigeria is not white enough !!

or the roasted corn sold on the side of the road does not have packaging and nutritional information on it.

Nollywood is a local industry ...no matter what anyone says ...as long as its produced in a third would country struggling with mere electricity problems the quality is not about to change anytime soon.
 
F

filmdirector

Guest
#59
well, for one thing... i definitely don't agree with your... how shall i put it?

"Talented Tenth Theory," maybe?

i can recall an exchange we had once where you suggested that people back home are generally ignorant, and it is up to those of us who have been abroad to go back and educate them or something.

i understood the point you were trying to make, but i still do not really buy it.
No, I can't claim that statement. I would never say ignorant cuz I don't even think that. I do believe some from my experience want to learn but don't have the tools and yes we can help with that.

Choice of words my friend. I would never say ignorant and say so snubbishly. It's just not my way of thinking.

But yes if we have knowledge that is needed and open to reception we should give/share it. But not in a condescending way.

Obariba - my movie is finally complete to a point that I can smile and honestly say I have done the best i can with it. I am sending to festivals and North American and UK film distributors - we'll see and about to start logistics on self distribution in Nigeria.

Check my website - Ace Point Entertainment - Grey Focus. I am thinking of posting the first 5mins of the film on it. Thinking about it!!

But I like your suggestions. I am currently talking to a Nigerian in LA who is well connected and we'll see on collaborations hopefully in the future.

I do try to be proactive.
 

Obariba

Well-Known Member
#60
No, I can't claim that statement. I would never say ignorant cuz I don't even think that. I do believe some from my experience want to learn but don't have the tools and yes we can help with that.

Choice of words my friend. I would never say ignorant and say so snubbishly. It's just not my way of thinking.

But yes if we have knowledge that is needed and open to reception we should give/share it. But not in a condescending way.

Obariba - my movie is finally complete to a point that I can smile and honestly say I have done the best i can with it. I am sending to festivals and North American and UK film distributors - we'll see and about to start logistics on self distribution in Nigeria.

Check my website - Ace Point Entertainment - Grey Focus. I am thinking of posting the first 5mins of the film on it. Thinking about it!!

But I like your suggestions. I am currently talking to a Nigerian in LA who is well connected and we'll see on collaborations hopefully in the future.

I do try to be proactive.

Thanks .. Ill check it out ....keep it up grinning:

If you dont mind we need a thread to keep track of your progress with the movie ...a little extra PR wont hurt !
 
Status
Not open for further replies.