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when will nigeria films get better?

Discussion in 'FILMMAKING, INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY' started by kemibaby, Feb 1, 2008.

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  1. takestyle

    takestyle Well-Known Member

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    okay, my bad... you didn't actually say Nigerians back home were "ignorant," but you did say that Nigerians abroad are "intellectually and morally superior."

    does that sound more like your wording?
     
  2. filmdirector

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    NO it is not my wording. Where are you getting this stuff from??? Do I think travel broadens ones thinking, and intelligence? Yes. Afterall even in the western society there is a clear distinction in knowledge and as a default intelligence between those that are well travelled and those that have never left their small town. But i don't like the inferior/superior stance. It stems too much from pride.
     
  3. filmdirector

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    Where does one create that? On what part of the board? Sorry I don't usually post frequently in Naija board mostly nollywood.net when it was active.
     
  4. takestyle

    takestyle Well-Known Member

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    Nollywood.net - Professional Video and Films In Nigeria & Africa - View Single Post - Are you kidding me?- Returnee Vibrations

     
  5. filmdirector

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    Aha I gracefully stand corrected. But please post the next paragraphs that explained what I meant. It might seem a wrong choice of words out of context but in context and with the explanation given it makes sense.

    My use of intellectually superior was not PC maybe but it was explained as not a condition of nature but of travel and experience and I still stand on that as a fact.
    Below is the whole writing with my explanations and reasoning.

    Interesting story but the fact is the writer is just trying to paint the returnees in a negative way. Some people might hit the roof on this but the fact is Nigerian American's are and supposed to be intellectually and morally superior to the average Nigerian living at home.

    Let me explain - If nigerians abroad use their travel experiences to develop an open mind, they will be influenced by laws that are upheld and straightforward and an education that is adequate, practical and well structured. They will also be exposed to other cultures, ideas, outlook on life etc. This can only be to an advantage if the good is taken and the wrong thrown away.

    Some Nigerians I meet resist learning any new American thing and hence only restricted themselves to a Nigerian church, work and home and so I can not speak on how they'll turn out. But if one is open to learning and experiencing new things, people and cultures they can not help but know more, think broader etc. So yes, when they go home, they will be more aware of wrong thinking or crippling/backward thinking, they will see easy solutions because their area of dwelling has used these solutions and it has helped/worked.

    Yes we might sound arrogant but I think many times just the pain of seeing the destruction around you, knowing it is so easy to fix, noting the flaws in certain ways of thinking coupled with love of country might make us get too vocal.

    Please I haven't said innately we are more superior in mind etc, I am saying we are more superior in mind, ideas, morals on some level etc because we have exposed ourselves to more.

    I am bolding certain things just because I am trying to be sensitive to whoever else is reading this. Let's not pick one sentence and run with it. Again I write from my experiences. From being a curious person who tries to relate to different people. There is a lot in our traditions, religious beliefs and attitude to things in Nigeria that is very much proven to be a weight, a burden to progress etc and honestly only exposure reveals this. Example from exposure you realize that some beliefs that are a burden in their applications were practiced in the last centuries in other cultures and had to be done away with for the people to move on.

    Finally i still believe you get a better 'education' abroad if you stay open minded and widen your circle of friends and associations within the purity of your conscience.
     
  6. takestyle

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    filmdirector:

    i didn't quote the rest of the post not because i sought to decontextualize your comment, but because it was not really that relevant to the point i was making.

    but in any case, i DO understand the argument you're positing... i just disagree with it.

    shall i explain why? or would that be getting too intricate?
     
  7. filmdirector

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    No, its okay. I don't want this post to deviate from its original content. But if you like you could send one to me PM or nollywood.net cuz out of curiousity i want to hear my reasoning. Just the curious side of me. I might learn something new and surely hear a different perspective.
     
  8. takestyle

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    i guess you ain't heard yet: Nollywood.net is dead, as of today.

    but in any case, i don't think there's too much problem with detouring this thread, considering that the original post was remarkably free of content anyway.
     
  9. filmdirector

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    well, it was pretty none existent for a while so it makes sense for it to die although i just posted something. However it is 2:31am where i live. I have finished burning the dvds for festivals and I am going to get some zzzz. Can still post though. Will read it tomorrow.
     
  10. TheForce

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    It will be a good thing, for other Anglophone nations to try and do their own thing. But I don't think it will be seen as competing with Nollywood. They will be doing their thing and Nollywood will be doing theirs.

    The Ghana film industries as I recall, was more progressive than nollywood from the beginning, but they bought into the lie that they were in competition with nollywood, and they crashed. Now that they are picking up again, they should try and do their thing and improve on it.

    Moreover, must every African countries begin to think of going into movie productions because Nollywood is successful? I bet there are other things that they can be better than Nigeria at.
     
  11. moviewizard

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    Funny enough, i was watching I am legend with a cousin yesterday and he was asking me when would a nigerian movie be like that? I actually thought deep and felt for me, its not even about crashing helicopters and doing car stunts in our movies yet but having a decent story with professional hands to start with. To be truthful nollywood is not yet there and is not close at all, like someone said its basically nigerian movies made for nigerians. Kemibaby addressed with too much hostility hence the feedbacks she got. Its something we should discuss yet i also think someone could start with a change, take for instance the nigerian music industry, they are not there yet but they shoot great videos on 35mm, all these started the moment 2face won the mtv best african act, everyone wanted to get better, have their videos on mtv and probably win the awards. If a nigerian movie wins an oscar tomorrow (just using that as an example) you would see tremendous improvement so i guess its no longer about shouting and yelling. If kemi baby feels she went to the best film school on planet earth, she should make a great movie and show nigerian film makers how to do it. Its time for people who think they can do something out of the box that would effect changes come on board and i assure you it would go a long way. For now, those cold movies are the best they think they have to offer so someone has to come out and show them how to do it. I do think nigerians are boastful people and too much has been heard about shooting this and that movie that would shock even hollywood but for wia. for me i have learnt to put my money where my mouth is and accept nollywood for what they are and rate them according to a particular circumference i have crafted.
     
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  12. KikisMuffin

    KikisMuffin I no get ya time!!

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    You actually come across as extremely arrogant and slightly ignorant despite all your accolades dear. You might want to take it easy, i mean wtf? you make some good points but you need to calm down and have discourse with people not just spew with anger!Peace! smokin:
     
  13. KikisMuffin

    KikisMuffin I no get ya time!!

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    Who is this clown, for real???sweat:sweat: You got to be kidding me..oh well, i guess it takes all types to make the world spin, eish!
     
  14. KikisMuffin

    KikisMuffin I no get ya time!!

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    Spot on! She is entitled to her fustration with the industry given its current state(lord knows we all are!) but her entire approach was wrong and kinda stupidsmokin:
     
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